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01-22-2020, 08:26 PM | #793 | |
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But I'm just speaking with 36 years of driving in ice and snow so what do I know. ![]() |
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01-22-2020, 09:15 PM | #795 |
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It's obviously not an official M model but for those that don't care about such labels, a powerful RWD vehicle, with the right Limited Slip Differential can satisfied your every performance need.
Me personally, I'm the humble type; I honestly don't mind if it's not an M car, as long as it has the chops to get the job done. I already have a big M badge, in the center of my M underwear, that's more than enough. ![]() |
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01-23-2020, 02:41 AM | #797 |
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non real M cars should get the M without the stripe colors
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01-23-2020, 08:24 AM | #798 |
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Any M Performance car is still a pig with lipstick... nice lipstick, but still a pig nonetheless.
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01-23-2020, 08:45 AM | #799 |
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01-23-2020, 09:02 AM | #800 |
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No, because of trying to be what's not!
Those M Performance cars are not designed and built by BMW M Division like the real M cars.
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01-23-2020, 09:22 AM | #801 | |
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It is doing the marketing thing that works for others (Merc, Lexus, Audi...) and like tennis racket companies with paintjobs (attaching a label "Endorsed by a certain pro" (in this case bits and pieces by M Division), they make people believe it is an "M lite" |
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01-23-2020, 09:25 AM | #802 |
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For many people, the "M lites" are actually better cars. Easier to live with on a daily basis, more comfortable... etc. All this talk about real and fake M cars is funny to me. the only "real" M cars on sale now for me are the M2 & M4.
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01-23-2020, 09:33 AM | #803 | |
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As I said (a few dozen pages ago ![]() |
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01-23-2020, 01:55 PM | #804 | |
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01-23-2020, 02:14 PM | #805 |
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lol this thread is toxic
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01-23-2020, 02:50 PM | #806 |
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If everyone just concedes that the G20 330i with its’ ‘light’ weight, 4 cylinder, with all available M add-ons, is the current closest to what an original M3 was / should be (e30 M3), then I think we can move on
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01-23-2020, 03:47 PM | #808 | |
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The BMW 230i is the closest. 2-door and small with a 4-banger that can be connected to the rear wheels via a manual transmission. G20 3-series has a wheelbase an inch longer than the 7 series had when the E30 was in production. Granted, if you ordered the 7-series with the biggest/heaviest engine, it was almost as heavy as the G20. The 230i is too big as well, but it is very similar in power and size to the E36 M3. ![]() |
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01-23-2020, 03:52 PM | #809 | |
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01-23-2020, 03:58 PM | #810 |
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Actually it was the 1979 BMW E12 M535i
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01-26-2020, 06:46 PM | #813 |
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And rightfully so.
BMW has been diluting the M for years.
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Don't be so sour, it doesn't do you any good. I'm not an /// guy I recognize the mperformance cars are pretty good but let's be real here lol. Have you taken your m340i and been on track? My moms x4m40i is pretty fast lol
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