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      01-21-2020, 09:46 AM   #705
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lol... add another 25+ pages to the thread, we're back at the starting point again.
That probably means the OP's original post is a dud.
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      01-21-2020, 09:56 AM   #706
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Although the M3/M4 has always been my dream car... we are getting up to 25 cm of snow tonight... this is why some of us choose the M340 over the M3. Do I have to turn in my plates and decals now?
[IMG]IMG_0054 by Mike v, on Flickr[/IMG]
I've read and heard from multiple people that own an M3/M4 can drive in those conditions without a problem...
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      01-21-2020, 10:07 AM   #707
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What are those links you put there supposed to show???
Do you even understand my comment or you are randomly throwing junk just for the sake of reply??
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      01-21-2020, 10:12 AM   #708
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Why are you so naive? I've already told you where to look for it, must be computer illiterate. It's like talking to my grandpa about politics, you just refuse to acknowledge facts and embrace change.

Here you go pops below. Wonder what you'll say next, "oh it's just marketing" 👴🏻. "But pops the B58 motor is the basis for the next gen S58 with shorter strokes and and twin-turbo instead of a twin scroll". "Oh, well that's not made by Hanz Deutschbäg in Nürburging so it can't be an M..."

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...eries/M2/coupe

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...eries/M5/sedan
You do realize that N55 was the basis for the S55, etc...
Again, the pictures you desperately want to show something in your favor are showing exactly what I am saying -- "Enhanced Performance and Design..."
Let me translate that for you -- the M pieces come from the M division, the M340 is just like any other 3-series, designed and built at the same place...

Again, nothing really to do with the M
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It's so funny to see M owners on this forum trying so hard to prove that they are special - like "US sold less than 20k M3/4 in 2019" bla bla. Come on guys it's just a car lol.
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I've read and heard from multiple people that own an M3/M4 can drive in those conditions without a problem...
Don't think an M can survive in snow

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1683577
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It's so funny to see M owners on this forum trying so hard to prove that they are special - like "US sold less than 20k M3/4 in 2019" bla bla. Come on guys it's just a car lol.
I never said that an M is special or that I am special as an M owner. In fact, one of my first statements was that I would not buy another M because it does not suit me.

However, stating the facts that the M3 sales are much lower, therefore much more rare than what the California people are saying ("every 4th vehicle is an F8x..." has nothing to do with trying to prove it is special...
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I have an E93 M3 that I lowered and put the ZCP wheels on it. So basically I have a competition package convertible. Or a convertible M3 CS?

I'm throwing a badge in it.
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Why are you so naive? I've already told you where to look for it, must be computer illiterate. It's like talking to my grandpa about politics, you just refuse to acknowledge facts and embrace change.

Here you go pops below. Wonder what you'll say next, "oh it's just marketing" 👴🏻. "But pops the B58 motor is the basis for the next gen S58 with shorter strokes and and twin-turbo instead of a twin scroll". "Oh, well that's not made by Hanz Deutschbäg in Nürburging so it can't be an M..."

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...eries/M2/coupe

https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...eries/M5/sedan
You do realize that N55 was the basis for the S55, etc...
Again, the pictures you desperately want to show something in your favor are showing exactly what I am saying -- "Enhanced Performance and Design..."
Let me translate that for you -- the M pieces come from the M division, the M340 is just like any other 3-series, designed and built at the same place...

Again, nothing really to do with the M
You do realize —or maybe you don't— that the B58 is closed deck with a forged crankshaft and much more similar to an S55 in functionality vs. the N55 open deck, so higher ceiling, more tuning options and bigger power gains are possible. A water-to-air intercooler system, and a mechanical water pump similar to the S55 versus the N55 traditional air intercooler system and electric pump. But those "aren't M pieces..." no it's M engineering pops 👴🏻.

And please elaborate on those "M pieces" you are referring to? The key components of the ZF8 transmission which can handle up to 730lbs of torque and a locking differential, are there - which was lacking on any 3 series M Performance upgrade or package possible.
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Don't think an M can survive in snow

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1683577
I don't personally know they can since I live in Miami but I've seen first hand from others that they do so I don't know what your point is in showing a thread that shows M owners in the snow on a yearly basis.
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Don't think an M can survive in snow

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1683577
I don't personally know they can since I live in Miami but I've seen first hand from others that they do so I don't know what your point is in showing a thread that shows M owners in the snow on a yearly basis.
It's not that it can't, but the higher torque and RWD makes it riskier than the AWD more balanced rev range in the M340i.
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driving an M car what gives the pleasure of the owner not tracking it everyday.. some might be buying M cars just to show off.. but bigger part i believe is not.. M cars feels different, smells different, sounds different.. it even makes me happy to see M title on the registration.. never had a normal BMW and i wont have one probably except real M.. i ll be more happy in a stock E46 M3 than a brand new M340i..
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It seems this marketing strategy has not reached Canada. When viewing "All models", only the original ///M models are listed under the "M" category:
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It seems this marketing strategy has not reached Canada. When viewing "All models", only the real ///M models are listed under the "M" category:
Corrected that for you
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      01-21-2020, 11:27 AM   #719
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driving an M car what gives the pleasure of the owner not tracking it everyday.. some might be buying M cars just to show off.. but bigger part i believe is not.. M cars feels different, smells different, sounds different.. it even makes me happy to see M title on the registration.. never had a normal BMW and i wont have one probably except real M.. i ll be more happy in a stock E46 M3 than a brand new M340i..
Hahahaha you had me until... "smells different" and you obviously haven't heard an M340i rip with natural exhaust burbles, sounds better than a S55 IMO.

It makes you happy to see the M title on the registration..? Really?? Do you have it framed?
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I have both (e90 M3 and X3 M40i) and really surprised by the number of people (friends and strangers) who perceive X3 as a "real M" car. Most non-enthusiasts don't know the distinction and there are enough M logos on m40i X3 to confuse them. I personally find it annoying as I have to explain to them each time that there's actually a real X3M. This is probably what BMW intended and working brilliantly
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It seems this marketing strategy has not reached Canada. When viewing "All models", only the original ///M models are listed under the "M" category:
"But you have to dig deeper, a few pages in..." where they put a note that M division has looked into the 340
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I have both (e90 M3 and X3 M40i) and really surprised by the number of people (friends and strangers) who perceive X3 as a "real M" car. Most non-enthusiasts don't know the distinction and there are enough M logos on m40i X3 to confuse them. I personally find it annoying as I have to explain to them each time that there's actually a real X3M. This is probably what BMW intended and working brilliantly
The M and non-M (including the Mx40i...) are completely different cars, and platforms.
That is the biggest difference I noticed going from the F30 335i with all Mperformance stuff to the F80.
The speed and technology is a totally secondary thing....
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Hahahaha you had me until... "smells different" and you obviously haven't heard an M340i rip with natural exhaust burbles, sounds better than a S55 IMO.

It makes you happy to see the M title on the registration..? Really?? Do you have it framed?
There's nothing natural about any modern car exhaust burble, though. They are all artificial; engineered to burble varying degrees through the tuning.

I do agree the B58 sounds better than the S55 and S58.
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Hahahaha you had me until... "smells different" and you obviously haven't heard an M340i rip with natural exhaust burbles, sounds better than a S55 IMO.

It makes you happy to see the M title on the registration..? Really?? Do you have it framed?
E46 M3 has S54, i didnt say anything about S55..
if you dont agree.. just tell its enough, it can be.. cause clearly trying to make some jokes doesnt make you a genius anyway nicky dj..
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