Software jailbreak, be careful

jman26 · 11-09-2013, 05:49 AM

I just did PCD this week and took delivery of my f15. I will post a reciew later. In simple words though it is awesome!

During. Pcd i got to talking with the specialist about jailbreak during my 2 hr delivery tutorial. She said that if u jailbreak the computer it willl void the warranty 100%. Unless your dealer does the program you coukd be at risk. Hey will know also as the key fob stores everything on a chip and they download all the data that way when u go in for service. Your dealer may be able to do so e of the things for youbut anything that would not be in compliance with fed guidelines immedietly voids the warranty. Examples are video while driving, liftgate ,eyc. Although i know other cars that allow liftgate via fob to close in the us. Just an advisory on this. Still not sure what i will do.

Baunton · 11-09-2013, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jman26

I just did PCD this week and took delivery of my f15. I will post a reciew later. In simple words though it is awesome!

During. Pcd i got to talking with the specialist about jailbreak during my 2 hr delivery tutorial. She said that if u jailbreak the computer it willl void the warranty 100%. Unless your dealer does the program you coukd be at risk. Hey will know also as the key fob stores everything on a chip and they download all the data that way when u go in for service. Your dealer may be able to do so e of the things for youbut anything that would not be in compliance with fed guidelines immedietly voids the warranty. Examples are video while driving, liftgate ,eyc. Although i know other cars that allow liftgate via fob to close in the us. Just an advisory on this. Still not sure what i will do.

Why would you?????

chrisny · 11-09-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jman26

video while driving,

Keep your eyes on the road people!

RickP · 11-09-2013, 06:39 AM

One example is closing of tailgate with key fob. For some reason, BMW only lets you open tailgate/trunk but not shut it yet plenty of others manufacturers let you do both

AresM3 · 11-09-2013, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RickP

One example is closing of tailgate with key fob. It's allowed outside of US and lots of other manufacturers let you do it. For some reason, BMW only lets you open tailgate/trunk but not shut it

I bet that is a US only rule they have to follow. Like the ugly orange reflector that is required on the front sides.

Bug Rx · 11-09-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RickP

One example is closing of tailgate with key fob. For some reason, BMW only lets you open tailgate/trunk but not shut it yet plenty of others manufacturers let you do both

I think that may have changed for 2014 model. I believe I saw a video explaining that it did.

RickP · 11-09-2013, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bug Rx

I think that may have changed for 2014 model. I believe I saw a video explaining that it did.

Yea, I saw that video but I don't think it's for US models

I hope I'm wrong.

Bug Rx · 11-09-2013, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RickP

Yea, I saw that video but I don't think it's for US models

I hope I'm wrong.

Ugh....dont say that! Haha

chrisny · 11-09-2013, 09:37 AM

Tried the auto close at one dealership and it didn't work. Pretty sure others have tried on US demos with no luck as well.

MysticBlue · 11-09-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by invisihitch

I am not doubting that a BMW employee made the claim that coding your vehicle "will void the warranty 100%". The problem is, that statement simply is not true. At least not in the U.S., where federal law specifically prohibits a manufacturer from voiding a warranty merely because a consumer made modifications or added accessories that were not authorized by the manufacturer.

According to the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, there can be no preemptive voiding of a warranty whatsoever by a manufacturer. What a manufacturer CAN do is deny a specific actual warranty claim submitted by a consumer if and only if the manufacturer can prove (not merely claim) that the consumer-added modification or accessory actually caused the specific problem that is now in need of repair. In such a case, the manufacturer can deny that particular warranty claim only, while the full coverage of the original warranty remains intact. There can be no voiding.

When it comes to coding your vehicle, many of the settings that you may desire are the exact same settings that the manufacturer uses when the vehicle is destined for a country other than the U.S. So it would be preposterous for the manufacture to assert that your modification somehow caused the problem for which you are submitting a warranty claim.

I am not saying that you won't have a problem with law enforcement should you, for example, have a video running within view of the driver while the vehicle is in motion. But that is an issue between you and the police; it has nothing to do with BMW's requirement to honor its warranty. Any claims to the contrary by certain BMW employees are simply false.

You are correct sir.

Baunton · 11-09-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by invisihitch

I am not doubting that a BMW employee made the claim that coding your vehicle "will void the warranty 100%". The problem is, that statement simply is not true. At least not in the U.S., where federal law specifically prohibits a manufacturer from voiding a warranty merely because a consumer made modifications or added accessories that were not authorized by the manufacturer.

According to the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, there can be no preemptive voiding of a warranty whatsoever by a manufacturer. What a manufacturer CAN do is deny a specific actual warranty claim submitted by a consumer if and only if the manufacturer can prove (not merely claim) that the consumer-added modification or accessory actually caused the specific problem that is now in need of repair. In such a case, the manufacturer can deny that particular warranty claim only, while the full coverage of the original warranty remains intact. There can be no voiding.

When it comes to coding your vehicle, many of the settings that you may desire are the exact same settings that the manufacturer uses when the vehicle is destined for a country other than the U.S. So it would be preposterous for the manufacture to assert that your modification somehow caused the problem for which you are submitting a warranty claim.

I am not saying that you won't have a problem with law enforcement should you, for example, have a video running within view of the driver while the vehicle is in motion. But that is an issue between you and the police; it has nothing to do with BMW's requirement to honor its warranty. Any claims to the contrary by certain BMW employees are simply false.

Yeah. Book 'em Danno. Sue first and ask questions later

AnthonyL88 · 11-10-2013, 07:10 PM

I've been installing custom video and audio systems inside my cars for almost 30 years. You're not allow to watch any videos while driving your car. The video is only suppose to work while the car is parked. If you got into an accident while the video is playing in the front monitor, you'll have a lot of problems with your insurance company, not just the police.

chrisny · 11-10-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyL88

If you got into an accident while the video is playing in the front monitor, you'll have a lot of problems with your insurance company, not just the police.

As you should.. Keep your eyes on the damn road people! Did I mention that already?

newbimmerx5 · 11-10-2013, 08:58 PM

Can you open and close the trunk by waving leg under it for US models? Anyone tried with premium package enabled.

blue dragon · 11-11-2013, 08:37 AM

More FUD.....

aosman · 11-12-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by newbimmerx5

Can you open and close the trunk by waving leg under it for US models? Anyone tried with premium package enabled.

you can open with the foot sensor but not close (at least for F10 5 series)

DR1er · 11-12-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aosman

you can open with the foot sensor but not close (at least for F10 5 series)

You can open AND close the trunk on the 2014 F10 with your foot. I tried this myself several times at the dealer. The trick seems to be with a "kick" motion instead of a side-to-side "leg waving" which for some reason is the way most people (myself included) try do do it by default

I have the same question about F15 X5 though... the online version of the owner's manual doesn't mention anything about the foot sensor, only that now you can close the tail gate from the the button on the driver's door. Here's what the manual says:

"Pull and hold the button.
An acoustic signal sounds and the tailgate
closes.
Releasing the button stops the motion.
Monitor the closing process
Monitor the closing process to ensure
that no one becomes trapped."

Can any of the happy owners who already have their trucks confirm if the foot sensor works on the F15?

usta · 11-13-2013, 08:46 AM

Coding will not void your warranty.
I just purchased my 2014 f10 three weeks ago and asked my dealer to modify the tpms to show numbers, fold mirror and close trunk from key fob. They told me that the dealers can't do it and gave me the person that did.

My car was coded and will do the same as soon as my f15 arrives.

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jman26 Private 29 Rep 70 Posts Drives: 2014 X5 msport active steer Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 F15 [0.00]	Software jailbreak, be careful I just did PCD this week and took delivery of my f15. I will post a reciew later. In simple words though it is awesome! During. Pcd i got to talking with the specialist about jailbreak during my 2 hr delivery tutorial. She said that if u jailbreak the computer it willl void the warranty 100%. Unless your dealer does the program you coukd be at risk. Hey will know also as the key fob stores everything on a chip and they download all the data that way when u go in for service. Your dealer may be able to do so e of the things for youbut anything that would not be in compliance with fed guidelines immedietly voids the warranty. Examples are video while driving, liftgate ,eyc. Although i know other cars that allow liftgate via fob to close in the us. Just an advisory on this. Still not sure what i will do.
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RickP Lieutenant 165 Rep 418 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Comp/DCT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chi-town iTrader: (0)	One example is closing of tailgate with key fob. For some reason, BMW only lets you open tailgate/trunk but not shut it yet plenty of others manufacturers let you do both Last edited by RickP; 11-09-2013 at 06:59 AM..
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chrisny Brigadier General 547 Rep 3,307 Posts Drives: 2020 X5 40i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Tried the auto close at one dealership and it didn't work. Pretty sure others have tried on US demos with no luck as well.
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AnthonyL88 Private 0 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW X5 35d M Sport Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	I've been installing custom video and audio systems inside my cars for almost 30 years. You're not allow to watch any videos while driving your car. The video is only suppose to work while the car is parked. If you got into an accident while the video is playing in the front monitor, you'll have a lot of problems with your insurance company, not just the police.
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usta Private First Class 104 Rep 154 Posts Drives: M8,G80, Raptor R, GT500 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Coding will not void your warranty. I just purchased my 2014 f10 three weeks ago and asked my dealer to modify the tpms to show numbers, fold mirror and close trunk from key fob. They told me that the dealers can't do it and gave me the person that did. My car was coded and will do the same as soon as my f15 arrives.
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