BBK recommendation for OEM 18" wheels

attila · 03-31-2011, 12:14 PM

I am using the OEM 18" wheels for winter tires but soon will need a BBK for the front.
The problem is I tried to rebuild the front calipers after melting dustboots and basically all plastic parts nearby, but I could not reapply the new dustboots. Neither could the local BMW dealer. They claimed it is applied with a special tool. Yesterday I changed back to the summer tire setup and tried the dust boots again. No luck. I am concerned this may hurt the calipers one way or other. The car will not likely be tracked anymore. So I am looking for a cheaper BBK kit for the front, which would fit in the OEM 18" wheels.
Thanks

STALKER · 03-31-2011, 12:25 PM

The only kit that clears the OEM 18s is the 365 Brembos.

CSMRX7 · 03-31-2011, 12:32 PM

The 380mm stoptech kit will clear with a 10mm spacer.

attila · 03-31-2011, 12:33 PM

Don't you think the PFC would fit??? They look relatively small, probably around 370?

STALKER · 03-31-2011, 01:02 PM

I would contact Bimmerworld directly about the PFCs.

attila · 03-31-2011, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSMRX7

The 380mm stoptech kit will clear with a 10mm spacer.

Good to know! Thanks! I do have 10mm spacers.

STALKER · 03-31-2011, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

Good to know! Thanks! I do have 10mm spacers.

The AP kit should clear with 10mm spacer. I ran mine with 12mm spacer and it had a lot of room under OEM 18s.

elh0102 · 03-31-2011, 01:23 PM

The StopTech 380 will not work. I have that setup on the front, and the ZCP 19” wheels just barely clear. The 355 should work fine, although if you’re not going have it on track, sounds like you’re beyond the need for it.

attila · 03-31-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elh0102

The StopTech 380 will not work. I have that setup on the front, and the ZCP 19” wheels just barely clear. The 355 should work fine, although if you’re not going have it on track, sounds like you’re beyond the need for it.

The reason I consider this is the fear that the OEM calipers (rebuilt by me) without dust boots will need replacement in the near future.

FrenchBoy · 03-31-2011, 01:50 PM

StopTech 355mm 4 piston calipers. I just installed some.

HP Man · 03-31-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

I am using the OEM 18" wheels for winter tires but soon will need a BBK for the front.
The problem is I tried to rebuild the front calipers after melting dustboots and basically all plastic parts nearby, but I could not reapply the new dustboots. Neither could the local BMW dealer. They claimed it is applied with a special tool. Yesterday I changed back to the summer tire setup and tried the dust boots again. No luck. I am concerned this may hurt the calipers one way or other. The car will not likely be tracked anymore. So I am looking for a cheaper BBK kit for the front, which would fit in the OEM 18" wheels.
Thanks

If you're not going to track the car anymore, why not just buy a set of used OEM calipers? If anybody has fade issues with the OEM brakes on the street, they are driving way too fast.

aus · 03-31-2011, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Man

If you're not going to track the car anymore, why not just buy a set of used OEM calipers? If anybody has fade issues with the OEM brakes on the street, they are driving way too fast.

+1.

I saw some stock brakes for sale here recently in the member sale section recently.

rzm3 · 03-31-2011, 06:46 PM

1. Brembo 6-Pot 365x34
2. StopTech 4-Pot 355x35
3. PF 4-Pot 372xXX

Are your direct fit options. Have you looked in the FS section for used front calipers?

attila · 03-31-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

1. Brembo 6-Pot 365x34
2. StopTech 4-Pot 355x35
3. PF 4-Pot 372xXX

Are your direct fit options. Have you looked in the FS section for used front calipers?

I have not yet! (will now)
Thanks for the list!

AMPowerJ · 03-31-2011, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

I have not yet! (will now)
Thanks for the list!

1. Like FrenchBoy I have the 355mm ST kit and it clears the OEM 18's obviously.

2. I am at least one of the ones selling my OEM brakes. PM me if you are interested.

gasterus · 04-02-2011, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchBoy

StopTech 355mm 4 piston calipers. I just installed some.

How's the performance on the 4-pot stoptech??

jml · 04-02-2011, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attila

Don't you think the PFC would fit??? They look relatively small, probably around 370?

If you've got the funds, the PFC kit is the way to go. I am pretty sure james said it fit (call them) on OEM 18's and it is one of the better engineered setups for the E90 out there in terms of balance/bias, rotor cooling, weight, and accuracy. I say that based on Jame's data, I don't have experience with them myself. Only downsides are that you need to remove the caliper to change out the pads and the consumables are very expensive (pads and rotors).

If you want to spend less and are looking for a good track setup that's easy to deal with, get the smaller StopTech setup. It's bulletproof and easy to change pads.

rzm3 · 04-02-2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jml

If you've got the funds, the PFC kit is the way to go. I am pretty sure james said it fit (call them) on OEM 18's and it is one of the better engineered setups for the E90 out there in terms of balance/bias, rotor cooling, weight, and accuracy. I say that based on Jame's data, I don't have experience with them myself. Only downsides are that you need to remove the caliper to change out the pads and the consumables are very expensive (pads and rotors).

If you want to spend less and are looking for a good track setup that's easy to deal with, get the smaller StopTech setup. It's bulletproof and easy to change pads.

This is absolutely NOT directed against you

, but...

I have an issue when vendors and/or suppliers say that their system is superior to others when they have shown absolutely no objective data to support their claim. To me, all these system perform equally well until I see real comparison data.

FrenchBoy · 04-02-2011, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasterus

How's the performance on the 4-pot stoptech??

I haven't tested them at the track yet, but this is what the Turner Motorsport M3s run on their Speed Challenge cars. So I am assuming they're okay for my track use ;-)

First track day is 4/21. I can report then.

jml · 04-02-2011, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rldzhao

This is absolutely NOT directed against you

, but...

I have an issue when vendors and/or suppliers say that their system is superior to others when they have shown absolutely no objective data to support their claim. To me, all these system perform equally well until I see real comparison data.

Fair point. I guess I trust him since I know him personally and he has a strong reputation as a racer. He sells everything - though I do know he pushed the street sports really hard without a full shakedown, putting some folks in a bind.

Navin323i · 04-07-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchBoy

StopTech 355mm 4 piston calipers. I just installed some.

Looks good! I have 355mm 6 piston Brembo BBK on my 323i now (see my sig)... when I get my E92 M3 I would like to transfer the BBK to my M3 (I'll be using the 18" M3 wheels like yours)... any idea whether 6 piston calipers can clear the wheels?

With your 4 piston calipers did your 18" wheels barely clear them or was there plenty of room to clear them?

Navin

FrenchBoy · 04-07-2011, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navin323i

Looks good! I have 355mm 6 piston Brembo BBK on my 323i now (see my sig)... when I get my E92 M3 I would like to transfer the BBK to my M3 (I'll be using the 18" M3 wheels like yours)... any idea whether 6 piston calipers can clear the wheels?

With your 4 piston calipers did your 18" wheels barely clear them or was there plenty of room to clear them?

Navin

Don't know whether the 355mm 6-pot Brembo will clear the 18"s or not.

As for the StopTech 4-pot, there is plenty of clearance with the 18"s. Good luck.

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attila Captain 83 Rep 628 Posts Drives: 2015 Mclaren 650s, 2015 GTS4, Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Omaha, NE iTrader: (0)	BBK recommendation for OEM 18" wheels I am using the OEM 18" wheels for winter tires but soon will need a BBK for the front. The problem is I tried to rebuild the front calipers after melting dustboots and basically all plastic parts nearby, but I could not reapply the new dustboots. Neither could the local BMW dealer. They claimed it is applied with a special tool. Yesterday I changed back to the summer tire setup and tried the dust boots again. No luck. I am concerned this may hurt the calipers one way or other. The car will not likely be tracked anymore. So I am looking for a cheaper BBK kit for the front, which would fit in the OEM 18" wheels. Thanks
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elh0102 Captain 15 Rep 751 Posts Drives: 2009 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	The StopTech 380 will not work. I have that setup on the front, and the ZCP 19” wheels just barely clear. The 355 should work fine, although if you’re not going have it on track, sounds like you’re beyond the need for it.
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FrenchBoy Lieutenant Colonel 234 Rep 1,508 Posts Drives: '16 F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	StopTech 355mm 4 piston calipers. I just installed some. __________________ Current: 2016 F80 M3 6-Speed \| SO \| AB XT1 \| ZCP \| M Performance Suspension \| GC Camber Plates Previous: 2009 E90 M3
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rzm3 Moderator 673 Rep 4,737 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (18)	1. Brembo 6-Pot 365x34 2. StopTech 4-Pot 355x35 3. PF 4-Pot 372xXX Are your direct fit options. Have you looked in the FS section for used front calipers?
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