I've got this crazy idea about our Calipers..

donovan · 03-23-2011, 03:05 AM

I was looking at a DIY for replacing brake pads...and someone say how we've got some big calipers..

What if a new type of caliper was created(or already exist) that would wrap around the WHOLE disc;unlike our half moon style, but the new caliper would physically take the whole disc and wrap around it! Like twin Calipers or something....

Silly idea... but just curious as to what you all think about it?
Hard to explain I know..

Stormtroooper · 03-23-2011, 03:32 AM

don't think it would work, too much heat, the "half moon" calipers already on cars everywhere are more than plenty. 6 piston caliper brakes are more than you need.

mastek · 03-23-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by donovan

I've got this crazy idea about our Calipers..

Yes --

Yes you do

donovan · 03-23-2011, 06:23 AM

The god of brakes... Mastek lol.

donovan · 03-23-2011, 06:26 AM

No Disappation is what I'm hearing from a good friend who is also a driving instructor...

I still think there is a way damn it!

Ken37.73 · 03-23-2011, 07:47 AM

I know what you mean but that would more or less go against every modern principal for brakes. Think suitable performance / efficiency / heat management / weight / material wear and then think about those in an enclosed system. Bad in all cases. Possibly some application for wet weather though but can't see a realistic case for that.

donovan · 03-23-2011, 08:08 AM

Correct, I wonder if there was a possible way to hook up a brake cooling system with a substance to supercool the brakes, but then we come into the problem where it will heat than cool then heat and cool much more feircely and cause a faster breakdown in the disc.

Kyoshi71 · 03-23-2011, 09:08 AM

Like someone had said, "Too much heat." Your idea is like the re-invention of the drum-brake.

Stormtroooper · 03-23-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

Like someone had said, "Too much heat." Your idea is like the re-invention of the drum-brake.

hmmm, seems to be the same thing i said over and over Donovan...

I guess my 8 years of being a certified Mechanic doesn't mean anything anymore.

I do like the "Your idea is like the re-invention of the drum-brake" LOL

SchnellM3 · 03-23-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

Like someone had said, "Too much heat." Your idea is like the re-invention of the drum-brake.

^This

Krozi · 03-23-2011, 09:18 AM

Someone needs to invent heat-less magnetic brakes that will never fade

Grail05 · 03-23-2011, 09:56 AM

hahaha you do have some crazy ideas.

who knows one of these days someone will actually make it... if not maybe theres reason behind it...

donovan · 03-23-2011, 10:58 AM

Magnetic brakes sounds legit, now lets get back to the drawing boards ladies....

I will try to whip something up with paint lmao.

JAJ · 03-23-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by donovan

Magnetic brakes sounds legit...

That's what the Prius and the Porsche GT3 Hybrid use - they run the electric drive motor as a generator to slow down the vehicle and put the kinetic energy into a storage system. "Magnetic brakes" are a reality today.

As far as the OP's suggestion, the size of the caliper doesn't really influence how well the brakes work. A larger caliper with larger pads will have longer pad life than a smaller caliper with smaller pads, but it won't stop the car any better. Stopping distances will be comparable.

What will be different is weight. A full-diameter caliper system will weigh more than a "normal" caliper system.

Basically, it's extra weight for no tangible benefit.

donovan · 03-23-2011, 02:16 PM

So weight is the the main problem along with not being able to cool the rotor then.

bunnn · 03-23-2011, 02:23 PM

It's getting there, lol.

jeff@autocouture · 03-23-2011, 03:16 PM

Wtf is that^

JAJ · 03-23-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by donovan

So weight is the the main problem along with not being able to cool the rotor then.

You can duct cold air through the inside of a ventilated rotor to cool it, so that's not a problem. You can machine air vents into the calipers cool them as well.

Basically, cooling would be a challenge but not an insurmountable one.

bunnn · 03-23-2011, 03:21 PM

A Volvo C70 designed by Evolve. I saw that a while ago, as sooon as I read the thread..I knew what to google, haha.

JAJ · 03-23-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Studntloan

Wtf is that^

It's a Pirelli tire on a multi-piece wheel. Am I missing something?

LateBraking · 03-23-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JAJ

It's a Pirelli tire on a multi-piece wheel. Am I missing something?

That strange looking front splitter, of course.

jonasaurus · 03-23-2011, 06:29 PM

what...

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Ken37.73 Private 1st Class 23 Rep 473 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Jet Black Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ireland iTrader: (0)	I know what you mean but that would more or less go against every modern principal for brakes. Think suitable performance / efficiency / heat management / weight / material wear and then think about those in an enclosed system. Bad in all cases. Possibly some application for wet weather though but can't see a realistic case for that. __________________
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donovan Brigadier General 371 Rep 4,167 Posts Drives: R8 - Ford Raptor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: National iTrader: (17)	Correct, I wonder if there was a possible way to hook up a brake cooling system with a substance to supercool the brakes, but then we come into the problem where it will heat than cool then heat and cool much more feircely and cause a faster breakdown in the disc. __________________ Audi R8 v10 Ford Raptor m3e46freak@yahoo.comfor all euro parts!! ebay/craigslist verified/ m3post/e46fanantics/m3forum/zpost/bimmerforum
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donovan Brigadier General 371 Rep 4,167 Posts Drives: R8 - Ford Raptor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: National iTrader: (17)	So weight is the the main problem along with not being able to cool the rotor then. __________________ Audi R8 v10 Ford Raptor m3e46freak@yahoo.comfor all euro parts!! ebay/craigslist verified/ m3post/e46fanantics/m3forum/zpost/bimmerforum
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