18" VMR 18x9.5 ET22s fit with 380mm Brembo BBK?

MNm3 · 03-04-2011, 05:53 PM

I have the above wheels (VMR 710) for the track and was wondering if anyone has had these on their car with a Big Brake Kit? Specifically 380mm up front?

I'm in the market for a BBK, as it were.

Rshane · 03-05-2011, 09:18 AM

Brembo site:

Rotors up to 320mm require a minimum 16 inch wheels

Rotors 323mm, 328mm and 332mm require a minimum 17 inch wheels

345mm to 355mm Rotors require a minimum 18 inch wheels

380mm Rotors require a minimum 19 inch wheels

Gearhead999s · 03-05-2011, 09:36 AM

380 MM Stoptechs will work with a lot of the 18" wheels readily available like the Apex & TR Motorsport wheels.The Brembo 380's are 7mm larger so it is tougher to find an 18" wheel that will work with them.

rzm3 · 03-05-2011, 11:45 AM

Try CCW 18" wheels. Picture is CCW 18 with ST 380 mm.

MNm3 · 03-06-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rldzhao

Try CCW 18" wheels. Picture is CCW 18 with ST 380 mm.

thanks but I'm not in the market for new Wheels as I already have the ones listed above. I need to know about Brembo Rotors. As I understand it, the Stop Tech Rotors are different in size as well.

MNm3 · 03-06-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

380 MM Stoptechs will work with a lot of the 18" wheels readily available like the Apex & TR Motorsport wheels.The Brembo 380's are 7mm larger so it is tougher to find an 18" wheel that will work with them.

Will the 380mm Brembos fit with ANY 18s?

KaHo · 03-06-2011, 07:31 PM

If you really want to have the BBK+18" combo.... you better look else where and stay away from Brembos. (I am running the Brembo 380mm)

MNm3 · 03-06-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KaHo

If you really want to have the BBK+18" combo.... you better look else where and stay away from Brembos. (I am running the Brembo 380mm)

Care to elaborate? What would you recommend?

aus · 03-06-2011, 09:43 PM

18" wheels that fit Brembo's: VOLK TE-37, VR2, CCW. That's all I know.

You're better off getting Stoptech's so you have more clearance.

rzm3 · 03-06-2011, 10:41 PM

If you want to use 18" wheels, look StopTech and AP Racing.

mdosu · 03-07-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MNm3

Will the 380mm Brembos fit with ANY 18s?

Not sure if they're 380mm but you should contact this guy.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...3&postcount=43

Brosef · 03-07-2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

18" wheels that fit Brembo's: VOLK TE-37, VR2, CCW. That's all I know.

You're better off getting Stoptech's so you have more clearance.

they also work with the HRE Fall Line 18" wheels and the HRE R40.

MNm3 · 03-07-2011, 09:34 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated. Sounds like I might have to look into other than Brembo unless I want smaller rotors or different wheels.

aus · 03-07-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brosef

they also work with the HRE Fall Line 18" wheels and the HRE R40.

Good to know.

Those yellow Brembo's are definitely not 380mm.
OP should ask VMR of the vender he bought them from. I don't think they were designded to fit a BBK of any type.

1MORELAP · 03-07-2011, 11:13 AM

Get the 365mm Brembos.

HP Man · 03-07-2011, 05:32 PM

The 18" VRM 710s do not clear a 380mm kit. For that matter, they do not clear the 368mm AP Racing kit.

aus · 03-07-2011, 07:20 PM

Well, that's not good. Time for new wheels then.

MNm3 · 03-08-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

Well, that's not good. Time for new wheels then.

Not a chance. I'm not paying for new wheels and then track rubber for 19" wheels just so I can fit bigger rotors on my car. I'll just have to go with 365s.

Has anyone ever driven some hard track sessions with both a 380 and a 365? If so, is there much difference in the amount of work they are up to? I assume the 365s are still far better than stock in terms of fade resistence?

I typically run my car at BIR which is a pretty fast track and is notoriously hard on brakes. My OEMs start to fade pretty good after a few hard laps.

Brosef · 03-08-2011, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNm3

Not a chance. I'm not paying for new wheels and then track rubber for 19" wheels just so I can fit bigger rotors on my car. I'll just have to go with 365s.

Has anyone ever driven some hard track sessions with both a 380 and a 365? If so, is there much difference in the amount of work they are up to? I assume the 365s are still far better than stock in terms of fade resistence?

I typically run my car at BIR which is a pretty fast track and is notoriously hard on brakes. My OEMs start to fade pretty good after a few hard laps.

I've never driven with the 365 rotors, but my guess is they are much more resistant to fade due to the size of the pads. the OEM brakes provide great stopping power, but the pads are so small that they overheat quickly. my theoretical understanding is that the 365 kit would be a significant improvement in fade resistance due to the larger pads.

MNm3 · 03-10-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

18" wheels that fit Brembo's: VOLK TE-37, VR2, CCW. That's all I know.

You're better off getting Stoptech's so you have more clearance.

Who makes the VR2 wheel? Is that Volk Racing?

aus · 03-10-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNm3

Who makes the VR2 wheel? Is that Volk Racing?

My bad, it's just the TE-37 VR by VOLK.

MNm3 · 05-13-2011, 09:13 AM

So I bought the 365mm Brembos some time ago and went to put on my track wheels last night to get ready for a weekend at the track and those DON'T FIT either.

I have a set of 12mm spacers but did not have them with me at the time, so I'm going to give those a try this evening. I'm hoping they work otherwise this could turn out to be an expensive set of brakes (plus new track wheels)

I'll be the first to admit that I'm stupid for assuming that the 365s fit all 18s. I should have measured those as well.

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aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	18" wheels that fit Brembo's: VOLK TE-37, VR2, CCW. That's all I know. You're better off getting Stoptech's so you have more clearance. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires." Last edited by aus; 03-06-2011 at 09:56 PM..
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