Legal advice on apartment

[Alexander]

So I have a high class apartment on the lake with a patio. I received a notice of a lease violation stating that my patio is messy due to tires. I have my set of winter wheels neatly stacked up relatively out of site.

Here is what the lease states:

"Balconies or patios shall be kept neat and clean at all times. No rugs, towels, or laundry, clothing, appliances or other items shall be stored, hung, or draped on railing or other portions of balconies or patios."

I spoke to the property manager and she said that they reserve the right to decide what is acceptable. Also she said people pay a lot of money for a lake view. I go I do too, and the wheels are not in plain sight. You literally have to be 5 feet away from my patio, facing the apartment to see them. Apparently one of my douchebag neighbors (I have several crazy cat ladies) complained about it. WTF.

Thoughts?

[infinitekidM2C]

Cover the wheels with a Tarp?

[JayKay335i]

Nothing you can do. I lived in a shit hole apartment. The only rule was when it snowed, you couldn't have anything on your patio because they shoveled. I left my stuff once and got a notice the next day. It basically said whatever is left will be "removed". Did it again and they threw all the shit away. Which was fine, because it was just a bunch of shit I was too lazy to carry to the dumpster in the snow.

You're fucked either way. Ask if you can cover them or something.

[KingOfJericho]

You probably can't do it now since your cover is blown but you should have draped something over them to disguise the fact that they are tires. Tires aren't an attractive thing to most people and I can see why your neighbors complained. I would cover them with some type of draping that makes it look like a piece of furniture and you should be ok.

I'm on my condo board and have to deal with this type of BS all the time.

[Alexander]

They won't let me cover them. She goes can you take them inside? I go no they belong outside on the patio.

I figured that I was fucked. This place at first seemed awesome, but it is slowly going downhill. I cannot provide my own internet or television service. They make you pay for Direct TV and its shitty internet. My neighbors blow and its supposed to be gated with key cars, but they leave the gate open 24/7. They never salt or maintain the roads inside the club, so its just ice city here. Also there are all sort of crazy fees that they tack on the bill. None of this shit is in the contract at all. Doucher's.

/csb.

[NYCGP]

No tires allowed? We'll see about that...

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

You probably can't do it now since your cover is blown but you should have draped something over them to disguise the fact that they are tires. Tires aren't an attractive thing to most people and I can see why your neighbors complained. I would cover them with some type of draping that makes it look like a piece of furniture and you should be ok.

I'm on my condo board and have to deal with this type of BS all the time.

It is so dumb. I had a house before this, but sold it while I could, since I plan on relocating in under a year. Whole new region.

[solefald]

I was renting some dudes condo a few years back and got a letter for HOA rules violation because my screen door had a 5" vertical cut in it.

Nothing you could do really. Perhaps neatly position your wheels and put a bench over them to look like they are part of your homemade patio furniture?

[Alexander]

End of story. I'll just store them at the mother in law's house in her basement. They are the womans tires anyways. Not worth the trouble. I fought them on principle alone.

[KingOfJericho]

It is, but there's not much you can do. Do you have any friends in the area with houses that you could store them at?

[infinitekidM2C]

Crap i thought these were like some nice back up or racing rims...we've been duped.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by solefald

I was renting some dudes condo a few years back and got a letter for HOA rules violation because my screen door had a 5" vertical cut in it.

Nothing you could do really. Perhaps neatly position your wheels and put a bench over them to look like they are part of your homemade patio furniture?

For real I need too. Someone else will just complain and my club will be assholes about it yet again.

What is fucked up is one neighbor has like 17 fucking cats. I think 17, because that is the most that I've ever counted. I bitched and nothing has been done. I called animal services and they can't do anything since it is a private residence.

Time to take matters into my own hands.

[Buegie]

It clearly says you can't store anything there, I think that pretty much settles it. Do they let you put anything at all out there, like a table and chair?

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by infinitekid2002

Crap i thought these were like some nice back up or racing rims...we've been duped.

My track wheels stay inside!

[Tondtar]

Throw the tires in the lake but tether and tie them to your balcony with a long rope ......WIN!!!

[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by Aonarch

My track wheels stay inside!

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by Tondtar

Throw the tires in the lake by tether and tie them to your balcony with a long rope ......WIN!!!

LOL...use the Cat-lady as an anchor

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by Buegie

It clearly says you can't store anything there, I think that pretty much settles it. Do they let you put anything at all out there, like a table and chair?

Yes... People store Canoe's and Kayaks, which are perfectly acceptable. It's a load of shit. People store shit all around me, its my douchebag cat neighbors that complained.

Like I said you literally have to be standing 5 feet away facing my place to see them. They are hidden behind a bush. The places are not really apartments, more town homes. The patio next door is about 50 feet away. There is no reason why my tires should be seen by anyone.

This is like that dude who was thrown in jail for public nudity. He was in his own home when a woman saw him while trespassing. BS.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by Tondtar

Throw the tires in the lake by tether and tie them to your balcony with a long rope ......WIN!!!

[Feyd]

Wait, if it's cold enough for you to need snows then why the fuck is anyone even out on their balcony?


The last apartment I lived in LA did this same shit, but in the parking garage. I got a note that said if I didn't move my wheels and tires by a certain date they'd be "removed" and I'd have to pay for their removal. So I moved them to my apartment balcony, meanwhile the other offenders who litterally had piles of shit (trashbags full of old cloths/rusty old bicycles, etc.) in front of their parking spaces never had their stuff removed even after their dates.

I'd tell them to fuck off and leave them. Then when people jump up on your balcony to "remove" them call the cops and tell them someone is stealing some off your balcony and you are scared because they look armed. LOL.

[persian54]

damn I could never rent and live with stuff like this

I'd either have to move, kill myself, or kill them.
Less extreme would be random vandalism that no one could prove


I'd go crazy

[Feyd]

Originally Posted by persian54

Less extreme would be random vandalism that no one could prove

I'd go crazy

I hated community living and am happy I'm out of it. Being subject to someone elses idiosyncrasies is always a drag. So happy I have a private garage and cool neighbors.