Looking to buy a 135i today!

Ender_ · 03-31-2009, 06:52 AM

Hi guys, been reading the forum a bit over the last couple of weeks, first post...anyway I finally decided that the 135i will be my next car (if the deal is right), currently have an A3. Was almost going to get a new A4 but then realized I'm not ready for a big sedan yet and I'll live with the RWD in the winter.

Anyway wondering what kind of deal I can expect, anyone buy one in the last month? There's two deals in Ottawa plan to go to both, hoping to take advantage of some end of month quota's.

Don't want to take delivery until end of June unless they are willing to payout my current lease that is due up then. It would probably be an order anyway.

Thanks!

Linoleum87 · 03-31-2009, 11:32 AM

I was dealing with Elite, and getting no love in the deal department. I even told the SA flat out that I would be requesting quotes from dealers in toronto and montreal, and he did nothing to try to earn my business. As it was, I got treated much better by SA's from other dealerships I contacted, and privately ended up taking over a lease...so for non-effort he got nothing.

I didnt deal at all with Otto's, so I cant comment on what they might do.

It is in your best interests to contact the dealers in the GTA to help with your chase for the best deal.

Best of luck to you.

Ender_ · 03-31-2009, 11:39 AM

I know I was find that with Audi, wasn't too much room for a deal, called a T.O. Audi dealer, 50 bucks a month lower right off the bat!

I understand that an Ottawa dealer might not be able to do as good a deal as TO due to the volume but come on meet me half way!

What kind of deals did you see when you called T.O. BMW?

singular · 03-31-2009, 11:46 AM

Not sure how well it works north of the border, but you should check out the thread on FAXing invoice+XXX offers to multiple dealers.

I FAXed 15 dealers within 75 miles and had three accept my offer within one hour, two more within a few days. Did everything by email until I closed the deal. It was really fast and easy and I got exactly what I wanted, both price-wise and option-wise.

Good luck - you will love your 1er.

Ender_ · 03-31-2009, 12:12 PM

"fax" "email" what are these made up words we don't have this "up north" !

Ya ideally I'd like to work with a local dealer, nicer when you go in for service...

singular · 03-31-2009, 01:07 PM

yeah sorry about the techno-lingo, forgot you guys communicate with snowballs!

The dealer I wound up with was about 50 miles away. Not that convenient, but doable. I suppose I could have taken the offer back to the local dealers and see if they would counter.

Bahuba · 03-31-2009, 01:43 PM

I used prices from 2 dealers in TO and a private sale and negotiated a good price with a demo model from Elite. That was back in Nov.

135iUSN · 03-31-2009, 02:27 PM

best of luck - get a vert LOL and have a snow ball fight

IS+1 · 03-31-2009, 03:06 PM

I too will be buying a 135i, hopefully here in Ottawa, in early 2010, so I'd be very interested to know how you make out. I bought my last car in TO because of the better deal, but I also want to build a relationship with the local dealer this time around. My strategy will be to visit a number of TO dealers towards the fall of 2009, to see what kind of deals they are giving. Armed with this information and the invoice price I will then make an offer locally and see if they can match the best offer from TO. I've visited both Elite and Otto's and have had very pleasant experiences with the sales staff at both places, but I prefer Otto's due the location.

Good luck... you're making the right decision. (I used to have an A4, and the 135i is much more fun!).

Ender_ · 03-31-2009, 03:53 PM

Thanks guys...so far down to $1750 off MSRP. Whats invoice for the 135i??

Going back tonight to play with the Nav and hope to make a final deal or walk out.

Linoleum87 · 03-31-2009, 04:03 PM

For the different dealers in the GTA there were different offers...nothing too spectacular, but many of them said when I was ready to talk seriously they would move the numbers a lot more. The guy at Elite was very nice, but said he couldnt do much better than MSRP, even after I started talking about invoice pricing and going elsewhere for the competition.

It took me about 10 minutes to throw together an email for a quote on my config, plug in the 15 or whatever dealers' email addresses, and start the bidding. I had thought about staying with a local dealer, but in the end my $ is more important. Next time they'll realize I'm willing to go elsewhere for a better deal, and perhaps they'll play ball too.

FYI, everything I had researched ahead of time told me that profit on BMW was in the 8-9% range. I never confirmed it with a dealer, but its reasonable and will give you a good idea of how hard to push!

dalrx · 03-31-2009, 07:37 PM

Some of the GTA dealers have 08's left over and are looking to unload them, most were autos though. I already bought my 09 128i but what I did was shop around TO area to get idea what I was up against, did carcostcanada for the invoice price, and went from there. After hammering with my local dealer with deals I was getting in TO area I got 3% above invoice, $1k extra trade-in for my car than I thought I would get, and got free mats, ipod cable thrown in. So it is all about leverage and local competition. That is why BMW's can be had a better deal in GTA area compared to say out west.

Ender_ · 03-31-2009, 09:25 PM

Well it’s done, 135i Alpine white owner here (well end of June). Got 4% over invoice, they wouldn't budge beyond that, actually almost walked out. Hoping the interest rate will drop tomorrow on the lease, he seemed to think it might.

I gotta say he gave us the 135i to take out in a 6spd before we met since he was busy, holy crap if I had just drive that in the first place I wouldn't have been looking at any other car, the only time I drove a 135i before it was an auto, buying that car in an auto is a waste of money!

deeb · 03-31-2009, 10:25 PM

You want my 08 135i for $810 a month? Only 13,300 km !!! 31 months left !!

Linoleum87 · 04-01-2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender_

Well it’s done, 135i Alpine white owner here (well end of June).

And thus will end my reign as the only AW 135 in Ottawa (at least that I've ever seen)

It was great while it lasted...

IS+1 · 04-01-2009, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linoleum87

And thus will end my reign as the only AW 135 in Ottawa (at least that I've ever seen)

It was great while it lasted...

Do you sometimes park outside the Indonesian Embassy on Parkdale? I've seen an AW 135i there a few times (I work at Tunney's Pasture).

IS+1 · 04-01-2009, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender_

Well it’s done, 135i Alpine white owner here (well end of June). Got 4% over invoice, they wouldn't budge beyond that, actually almost walked out. Hoping the interest rate will drop tomorrow on the lease, he seemed to think it might.

I gotta say he gave us the 135i to take out in a 6spd before we met since he was busy, holy crap if I had just drive that in the first place I wouldn't have been looking at any other car, the only time I drove a 135i before it was an auto, buying that car in an auto is a waste of money!

Congrats! Which dealer did you go with? And if you don't mind me asking, could you recommend a good sales associate there?

Now the waiting begins...

Linoleum87 · 04-01-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IS+1

Do you sometimes park outside the Indonesian Embassy on Parkdale? I've seen an AW 135i there a few times (I work at Tunney's Pasture).

No, thats not me. I guess my reign wasnt as grand as originally thought...although since I never "saw" that car, ignorance is bliss

03-31-2009, 06:52 AM	#1
Ender_ Lieutenant 54 Rep 509 Posts Drives: BMW 1M VO, V60 Polestar '24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	Looking to buy a 135i today! Hi guys, been reading the forum a bit over the last couple of weeks, first post...anyway I finally decided that the 135i will be my next car (if the deal is right), currently have an A3. Was almost going to get a new A4 but then realized I'm not ready for a big sedan yet and I'll live with the RWD in the winter. Anyway wondering what kind of deal I can expect, anyone buy one in the last month? There's two deals in Ottawa plan to go to both, hoping to take advantage of some end of month quota's. Don't want to take delivery until end of June unless they are willing to payout my current lease that is due up then. It would probably be an order anyway. Thanks!
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03-31-2009, 11:32 AM	#2
Linoleum87 Private First Class 13 Rep 152 Posts Drives: '08 AW 135 M sport Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ottawa, ON iTrader: (2)	I was dealing with Elite, and getting no love in the deal department. I even told the SA flat out that I would be requesting quotes from dealers in toronto and montreal, and he did nothing to try to earn my business. As it was, I got treated much better by SA's from other dealerships I contacted, and privately ended up taking over a lease...so for non-effort he got nothing. I didnt deal at all with Otto's, so I cant comment on what they might do. It is in your best interests to contact the dealers in the GTA to help with your chase for the best deal. Best of luck to you.
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03-31-2009, 11:39 AM	#3
Ender_ Lieutenant 54 Rep 509 Posts Drives: BMW 1M VO, V60 Polestar '24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	I know I was find that with Audi, wasn't too much room for a deal, called a T.O. Audi dealer, 50 bucks a month lower right off the bat! I understand that an Ottawa dealer might not be able to do as good a deal as TO due to the volume but come on meet me half way! What kind of deals did you see when you called T.O. BMW?
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03-31-2009, 11:46 AM	#4
singular Captain 21 Rep 935 Posts Drives: BSM 135i ppk cab Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Not sure how well it works north of the border, but you should check out the thread on FAXing invoice+XXX offers to multiple dealers. I FAXed 15 dealers within 75 miles and had three accept my offer within one hour, two more within a few days. Did everything by email until I closed the deal. It was really fast and easy and I got exactly what I wanted, both price-wise and option-wise. Good luck - you will love your 1er.
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03-31-2009, 12:12 PM	#5
Ender_ Lieutenant 54 Rep 509 Posts Drives: BMW 1M VO, V60 Polestar '24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	"fax" "email" what are these made up words we don't have this "up north" ! Ya ideally I'd like to work with a local dealer, nicer when you go in for service...
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03-31-2009, 01:07 PM	#6
singular Captain 21 Rep 935 Posts Drives: BSM 135i ppk cab Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	yeah sorry about the techno-lingo, forgot you guys communicate with snowballs! The dealer I wound up with was about 50 miles away. Not that convenient, but doable. I suppose I could have taken the offer back to the local dealers and see if they would counter.
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03-31-2009, 01:43 PM	#7
Bahuba Private First Class 20 Rep 179 Posts Drives: MR 2014 M235i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	I used prices from 2 dealers in TO and a private sale and negotiated a good price with a demo model from Elite. That was back in Nov.
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03-31-2009, 02:27 PM	#8
135iUSN 19 X5 1998 M Roadster 64 Rep 1,503 Posts Drives: 135i Alpine White / Terra Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SW Florida iTrader: (1) Garage List 1998 BMW M Roadster [0.00] 2009 135i [0.00]	best of luck - get a vert LOL and have a snow ball fight __________________ '09 135i Dinan In BMW heaven 09.28.2022 - Stage 2/Alpine White w/Terracotta /High Gloss Black Trim/ZCW/ZPP/ZSP w/313's /CA/PDC/Steptronic/
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03-31-2009, 03:06 PM	#9
IS+1 Lieutenant 240 Rep 462 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 (AW 6MT) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario iTrader: (0)	I too will be buying a 135i, hopefully here in Ottawa, in early 2010, so I'd be very interested to know how you make out. I bought my last car in TO because of the better deal, but I also want to build a relationship with the local dealer this time around. My strategy will be to visit a number of TO dealers towards the fall of 2009, to see what kind of deals they are giving. Armed with this information and the invoice price I will then make an offer locally and see if they can match the best offer from TO. I've visited both Elite and Otto's and have had very pleasant experiences with the sales staff at both places, but I prefer Otto's due the location. Good luck... you're making the right decision. (I used to have an A4, and the 135i is much more fun!).
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03-31-2009, 03:53 PM	#10
Ender_ Lieutenant 54 Rep 509 Posts Drives: BMW 1M VO, V60 Polestar '24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys...so far down to $1750 off MSRP. Whats invoice for the 135i?? Going back tonight to play with the Nav and hope to make a final deal or walk out.
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03-31-2009, 04:03 PM	#11
Linoleum87 Private First Class 13 Rep 152 Posts Drives: '08 AW 135 M sport Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ottawa, ON iTrader: (2)	For the different dealers in the GTA there were different offers...nothing too spectacular, but many of them said when I was ready to talk seriously they would move the numbers a lot more. The guy at Elite was very nice, but said he couldnt do much better than MSRP, even after I started talking about invoice pricing and going elsewhere for the competition. It took me about 10 minutes to throw together an email for a quote on my config, plug in the 15 or whatever dealers' email addresses, and start the bidding. I had thought about staying with a local dealer, but in the end my $ is more important. Next time they'll realize I'm willing to go elsewhere for a better deal, and perhaps they'll play ball too. FYI, everything I had researched ahead of time told me that profit on BMW was in the 8-9% range. I never confirmed it with a dealer, but its reasonable and will give you a good idea of how hard to push!
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03-31-2009, 07:37 PM	#12
dalrx Lieutenant 88 Rep 435 Posts Drives: 530i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: regina iTrader: (0)	Some of the GTA dealers have 08's left over and are looking to unload them, most were autos though. I already bought my 09 128i but what I did was shop around TO area to get idea what I was up against, did carcostcanada for the invoice price, and went from there. After hammering with my local dealer with deals I was getting in TO area I got 3% above invoice, $1k extra trade-in for my car than I thought I would get, and got free mats, ipod cable thrown in. So it is all about leverage and local competition. That is why BMW's can be had a better deal in GTA area compared to say out west.
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03-31-2009, 09:25 PM	#13
Ender_ Lieutenant 54 Rep 509 Posts Drives: BMW 1M VO, V60 Polestar '24 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	Well it’s done, 135i Alpine white owner here (well end of June). Got 4% over invoice, they wouldn't budge beyond that, actually almost walked out. Hoping the interest rate will drop tomorrow on the lease, he seemed to think it might. I gotta say he gave us the 135i to take out in a 6spd before we met since he was busy, holy crap if I had just drive that in the first place I wouldn't have been looking at any other car, the only time I drove a 135i before it was an auto, buying that car in an auto is a waste of money!
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03-31-2009, 10:25 PM	#14
deeb boss. 19 Rep 216 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	You want my 08 135i for $810 a month? Only 13,300 km !!! 31 months left !! __________________ .:08::black::135i::6speed::stick:.
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