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      06-12-2015, 05:04 PM   #1
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Torn Between JB4 or the velos tune..Help

Have the velos tune on my x5m but that's what everyone recommend but here the JB4 is popular. I just want the most power with a stock setup, I will put in air filters(if they help) but NO DPs. we have 93 here in CT so I run that. I do Like the control over the exhaust with the jb4 but the tune on the X5M has been FLAWLESS zero issues in a years time not to mention I cant even drive the X stock now, its that night and day.

I want to be able to run map 2 (here and there) and was told 2nd hand from terry that It should not be an issue but wants me to send the data.

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I NEED MORE POWER......MORE. MORE. MORE..........but no down pipes,

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Jb4 for obvious reasons. Its a constantly upgrading platform. The linger its out the more Burger Tuning will add and offer. Its already has evolved from a single tune to a stage2, to a fuel additive tune and now in dash commander and gauge etc. All other tunes imo are just an imitation of a platform that is lead buy the Jb4.
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Reading about the Velos tune it sounds similar to the JB stage 1.
the Jb4 stage offers a lot more in terms of features, boost control, datalogging, not to mention an unbeatable price and unlimited free technical support and firmware updates.
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      06-12-2015, 07:40 PM   #4
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Have the velos tune on my x5m but that's what everyone recommend but here the JB4 is popular. I just want the most power with a stock setup, I will put in air filters(if they help) but NO DPs. we have 93 here in CT so I run that. I do Like the control over the exhaust with the jb4 but the tune on the X5M has been FLAWLESS zero issues in a years time not to mention I cant even drive the X stock now, its that night and day.

I want to be able to run map 2 (here and there) and was told 2nd hand from terry that It should not be an issue but wants me to send the data.

Help me...Help you...by helping me.......

I NEED MORE POWER......MORE. MORE. MORE..........but no down pipes,

I love this car.....
The JB4 comes with a 14-day money back guarantee if purchased from authorized dealer so just give it a shot. I guarantee you, you won't be disappointed. Running it on out M3 and absolutely love it. Can't imagine the car without it.

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      06-12-2015, 11:27 PM   #5
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I have the Velos tune and it is great, I don't need anymore power. It runs very smooth and it plugs right in without cutting or messing with the car's wiring.
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      06-12-2015, 11:36 PM   #6
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Velos tune here as well. Call Velos and talk to them there may be a new offering soon that may interest you.

I think the jb4 is great if you are going to play with tunes, test new settings, etc. I don't use a 65k+ car for trying to get every last HP by trial and error (new tunes, settings, and so on). I want consistent no hassle power that can be reversed in minutes.

Only thing better for me would be a true ecu tune so all parameters could be addressed. Not just boost, and a few other settings...
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I think if you want a stage1 tune, there are many options and Velos and the Burger Stage 1 tuner are a couple. For more than the 20-40whp crowd, the Burger JB4 is the choice that many make.

I have an MPE and was running 94oct and I got a gain of 45rwhp and 51rwtq on map 1. Added akra DPs and got an additional 15rwhp and 13rwtq. This is all MAP 1 (so it'd be the same with the stage 1 burger tuner). I'll be dyno'n with race gas and do some MAP2 stuff soon. I'll probably be on Map2 as the standard map for me.
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I have the Velos tune and it is great, I don't need anymore power. It runs very smooth and it plugs right in without cutting or messing with the car's wiring.
JB4 is all plug and play now. No tapping required.
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yup jb4 stage 2+ all plug and play. stage 1 was always just an easy plug and play
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      06-13-2015, 11:57 AM   #10
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JB4 is all plug and play now. No tapping required.
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JB4 all the way. Always being updated with new software and features. Plus Terry answers emails very quickly.
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JB4 all the way. Always being updated with new software and features. Plus Terry answers emails very quickly.
had issues with map 6 yesterday and Terry sent me a different firmware hours later to get it fixed. now works like a charm. I really don't think you can get tech support that quickly from anyone else. this was a weekend too when most people don't even work.

jb4 all the way
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had issues with map 6 yesterday and Terry sent me a different firmware hours later to get it fixed. now works like a charm. I really don't think you can get tech support that quickly from anyone else. this was a weekend too when most people don't even work.

jb4 all the way
Terry is crazy fast with responses and it always amazes me how quick he can send out firmware or stuff for you to test as needed.

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JB4 all the way. Always being updated with new software and features. Plus Terry answers emails very quickly.
had issues with map 6 yesterday and Terry sent me a different firmware hours later to get it fixed. now works like a charm. I really don't think you can get tech support that quickly from anyone else. this was a weekend too when most people don't even work.

jb4 all the way
Customer service and support is very important. The support and service sells the product itself I feel. Not many aftermarket products I see that have this support!
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      06-15-2015, 04:51 AM   #16
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JB4 all the way. Always being updated with new software and features. Plus Terry answers emails very quickly.
had issues with map 6 yesterday and Terry sent me a different firmware hours later to get it fixed. now works like a charm. I really don't think you can get tech support that quickly from anyone else. this was a weekend too when most people don't even work.

jb4 all the way
Same support comes from velos, they respond promptly to issues.....like when you are loading up a tune in the dealer lot ( hated driving the x5m stock that much) and you knock the cable mid up stream, car had a battery issue ( unrelated to tune ) that would not let the tuning device get its correct voltage, was able To Call Omar on the fly and he told me what I had to do. Car was dead in the water otherwise.
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JB4 has no real competitor on this forum and in real life.
Yes, it is so friggin' good tune and I witnessed it on at least doezn of M3/M4 under various drag and track racing conditions.
I don't doubt that other tunes add some serious HPs, as well, so it is cool that competition doesn't sleep.
Dinan has some advantages, other than pure performance.
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Jb4 is simply a no brainer. Install is way easier than any other tune with obd2 plug, the custom map means you can create any type of tune you like. You Like VELOS POWERade curve, You Can Make JB4 Custom Add Boost anywhere You kike. Plus you get logging, wheel controls, exhaust flap and active sound control. It really is leap years ahead
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Have the velos tune on my x5m but that's what everyone recommend but here the JB4 is popular. I just want the most power with a stock setup, I will put in air filters(if they help) but NO DPs. we have 93 here in CT so I run that. I do Like the control over the exhaust with the jb4 but the tune on the X5M has been FLAWLESS zero issues in a years time not to mention I cant even drive the X stock now, its that night and day.

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why anyone would go with any other tune other than JB4 at this point is beyond me
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JB4 has no real competitor on this forum and in real life.
Yes, it is so friggin' good tune and I witnessed it on at least doezn of M3/M4 under various drag and track racing conditions.
I don't doubt that other tunes add some serious HPs, as well, so it is cool that competition doesn't sleep.
Dinan has some advantages, other than pure performance.
Agree with you about the JB4 being on another level at this point.
It is the only one i am aware of that connects to the canbus to give the user more power and flexibility than any other tune.
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      06-28-2015, 05:27 PM   #22
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why anyone would go with any other tune other than JB4 at this point is beyond me
Now that no wire splicing needed and it's easy pnp I totally agree
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