3er's Stock Dyno Run

3er · 05-10-2015, 04:32 PM

Dyno Run - Stock

In anticipation of having my Dinan Stage 1 tune installed in two weeks, I wanted to get a few dyno runs to establish a baseline. From a recommendation on this forum, I visited Eurocharged Performance today and came away with some great stock numbers. We did three runs and I netted the best numbers on the 3rd and final run. All runs were performed in 5th gear, sport plus, and DSC inactive. Today was 82 degrees Fahrenheit with 67% humidity near sea level (Houston).

After seeing the numbers, it’s just crazy to think that my car is putting out more horsepower and torque at the wheels than BMW claims at the crank! I’ll have dyno runs performed after the Dinan install to see the gains. Also, I took several other pictures of some cars, so enjoy!

1st Run: 437.15 WHP, 419.68 WTQ
2nd Run: 438.27 WHP, 416.76 WTQ
3rd Run: 441.71 WHP, 422.34 WTQ

zackf80m · 05-10-2015, 04:44 PM

440 whp stock on pump gas?!

3er · 05-10-2015, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zackf80m

440 whp stock on pump gas?!

Yes, sir! 93 octane.

AlpineE92M3 · 05-10-2015, 04:53 PM

Dynojets usually pump out higher numbers than Mustang "heartbreaker" dynos. Solid baseline numbers for 100% stock. It will be nice to see the numbers after the Dinan install.

Who's on first · 05-10-2015, 04:58 PM

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8600RPM · 05-10-2015, 04:58 PM

Ok clearly this is abnormally high so it's good you got a baseline otherwise dinan numbers would be inflates. I have come to really love the s55 power curve. A real masterpiece right to redline

YasM3 · 05-10-2015, 05:33 PM

Nice #s. You have to remember a dyno is a tuning tool. Your #s are slightly high but every dyno is different and conditions change things as well. Its good you got a baseline. Just make sure you go back to the same place once you do your mods to check gains. Also the "STD" correction will also bump #s up a bit as well which is what Eurocharged is using.

dmk08 · 05-10-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Ok clearly this is abnormally high so it's good you got a baseline otherwise dinan numbers would be inflates. I have come to really love the s55 power curve. A real masterpiece right to redline

Naa about the same as cars are putting down here on dynojets and 93 stock.

zackf80m · 05-10-2015, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Naa about the same as cars are putting down here on dynojets and 93 stock.

Nahh if you take a look around, all stock #'s are near 410-420 whp never 440 lel.

dmk08 · 05-10-2015, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zackf80m

Nahh if you take a look around, all stock #'s are near 410-420 whp never 440 lel.

Ive seen multiple with my eyes in the 430s.

8600RPM · 05-10-2015, 06:20 PM

What I'll never get is why people want tunes that destroy that perfect power curve. That's traditional M. peak power to redline. I've been driving on stock tune and stock or ess linear have by far been my favorites. Will be interested to see how custom jb4 doing

FC4 · 05-10-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 8600RPM

That's traditional M. peak power to redline.

Really? Please show an NA M car's horsepower flatlining at 5500 RPM.

YasM3 · 05-10-2015, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 8600RPM

What I'll never get is why people want tunes that destroy that perfect power curve. That's traditional M. peak power to redline. I've been driving on stock tune and stock or ess linear have by far been my favorites. Will be interested to see how custom jb4 doing

Why are you so hung up on "Peak power to redline?" Just like your other thread...... Nobody is destroying their "perfect power curve" An S55 flatlines power @ 5500 and carries it to about 7500. Older NA M cars have a linear power curve that keeps rising until redline.

Nobody is runing anything. They are just going faster adding a tune

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-10-2015, 07:19 PM

Nice runs..

For all those commenting just remember the delta is important not the absolute number when comparing modifications.

Clearly this is one of the highest stock curves I've seen but thats irrelevant when comparing.. Its great you got the baseline.

Any chance you have the uncorrected curve?

Mike

3er · 05-10-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Nice runs..

For all those commenting just remember the delta is important not the absolute number when comparing modifications.

Clearly this is one of the highest stock curves I've seen but thats irrelevant when comparing.. Its great you got the baseline.

Any chance you have the uncorrected curve?

Mike

Great question, Mike. I just sent an email to the guys at Eurocharged and will update you guys with their response.

8600RPM · 05-10-2015, 07:34 PM

Yes uncorrected would be interesting

A418t81 · 05-10-2015, 07:40 PM

Great numbers and a completely normal looking curve for the S55. It's funny when people post of 38X whp dynojet dynos of their S55 with a jagged power delivery and talk about how everything was working correctly on the dyno, when it is clearly obvious that isn't the case.

Here's mine for comparison also. Note the exact same shape of the curves (all my runs done in 4th gear).

image by glmmd81, on Flickr

And SAE:

image by glmmd81, on Flickr

3er · 05-10-2015, 07:40 PM

BTW, the graph states "CF: STD Smoothing: 5." Therefore, I'm pretty sure it's using STD correction. Regardless, I'll have Eurocharged confirm.

A418t81 · 05-10-2015, 07:46 PM

Looks like AW 6MTs dyno nicely

F80M4ROCKS · 05-10-2015, 08:18 PM

How do you covert 441 WHP to bhp and 422 wtq to tq? I'm not even sure its possible/accurate way to do this, just curious. great post 3er, hope you enjoy stage 1!

3er · 05-10-2015, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by F80M4ROCKS

How do you covert 441 WHP to bhp and 422 wtq to tq? I'm not even sure its possible/accurate way to do this, just curious. great post 3er, hope you enjoy stage 1!

I think most add 15% for drivetrain loss. Using 15%, it would be 507 hp and 485 at the crank.

Thanks for the kind words! I'm excited to see what the stage 1 tune does!

EDIT: Using the correct calculation (# / 0.85) would be 519 HP & 496 LB/FT.

3er · 05-10-2015, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Yes uncorrected would be interesting

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Nice runs..

For all those commenting just remember the delta is important not the absolute number when comparing modifications.

Clearly this is one of the highest stock curves I've seen but thats irrelevant when comparing.. Its great you got the baseline.

Any chance you have the uncorrected curve?

Mike

Eurocharged confirmed that they used STD correction.

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3er Major 946 Rep 1,275 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M5 Competition Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Katy, TX iTrader: (0)	3er's Stock Dyno Run Dyno Run - Stock In anticipation of having my Dinan Stage 1 tune installed in two weeks, I wanted to get a few dyno runs to establish a baseline. From a recommendation on this forum, I visited Eurocharged Performance today and came away with some great stock numbers. We did three runs and I netted the best numbers on the 3rd and final run. All runs were performed in 5th gear, sport plus, and DSC inactive. Today was 82 degrees Fahrenheit with 67% humidity near sea level (Houston). After seeing the numbers, it’s just crazy to think that my car is putting out more horsepower and torque at the wheels than BMW claims at the crank! I’ll have dyno runs performed after the Dinan install to see the gains. Also, I took several other pictures of some cars, so enjoy! 1st Run: 437.15 WHP, 419.68 WTQ 2nd Run: 438.27 WHP, 416.76 WTQ 3rd Run: 441.71 WHP, 422.34 WTQ __________________ *2019 ///M5 Competition* On Order: 2023 ///M3 Competition xDrive Last edited by 3er; 05-12-2015 at 08:39 AM..
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8600RPM Lieutenant Colonel 657 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: e92 m3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	Ok clearly this is abnormally high so it's good you got a baseline otherwise dinan numbers would be inflates. I have come to really love the s55 power curve. A real masterpiece right to redline
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YasM3 Lieutenant 258 Rep 487 Posts Drives: A BMW Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Out here iTrader: (0)	Nice #s. You have to remember a dyno is a tuning tool. Your #s are slightly high but every dyno is different and conditions change things as well. Its good you got a baseline. Just make sure you go back to the same place once you do your mods to check gains. Also the "STD" correction will also bump #s up a bit as well which is what Eurocharged is using.
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8600RPM Lieutenant Colonel 657 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: e92 m3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	What I'll never get is why people want tunes that destroy that perfect power curve. That's traditional M. peak power to redline. I've been driving on stock tune and stock or ess linear have by far been my favorites. Will be interested to see how custom jb4 doing
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A418t81 Lieutenant Colonel 296 Rep 1,515 Posts Drives: Ever changing fleet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 335is [0.00]	Great numbers and a completely normal looking curve for the S55. It's funny when people post of 38X whp dynojet dynos of their S55 with a jagged power delivery and talk about how everything was working correctly on the dyno, when it is clearly obvious that isn't the case. Here's mine for comparison also. Note the exact same shape of the curves (all my runs done in 4th gear). image by glmmd81, on Flickr And SAE: image by glmmd81, on Flickr __________________ 23 iX M60, 24 GT3 RS Weissach, 22 Rivian R1T, 23 RS3, 13 E92 M3 Competition: Akra Evo, KW V3, etc
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