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      11-02-2024, 10:27 PM   #23
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It's a very nice car and I think it's great looking. I did test drive one as I was interested in purchasing it, but it just felt a bit too big for my liking. Totally a personal preference, but I'd take it over any current M4/3/2 by a mile.
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      11-03-2024, 07:53 AM   #25
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I think they're really nice looking; I saw one at the dealership when I was buying my 540i and was immediately drawn to it.

They really stand out in traffic; obviously not for those who prefer not to attract a lot of attention. I was briefly thinking about buying one someday (IIRC they're not outrageously expensive used), but I don't live in a city with a bunch of flashy cars and I'm having second thoughts.
Was at the local BMW dealer having one of my other cars serviced and while waiting I was walking around and spotted a 2024 M8 Competition Coupe in Aventurin Red Metallic with black leather interior.

Well, at first sight I didn't know what the model was but I was drawn to walk over and look.

I instantly liked the looks of the M8. I don't recall the date but I estimate I was only a year (if that much) into my 2023 M2 ownership and I wasn't ready to get rid of the M2 for the M8. (I didn't have the room for both the M2 and M8.)

Plus the M8 looked huge. My M2 is smaller then the M8.

The area (Benton County AR) where I live/drive is not large vehicle friendly. Yeah there are plenty of large SUVs and pick up trucks but I see them often running over curbs as the driver enters/exits driveways or even turns onto or out of a side street. These larger vehicles often don't fit in parking spaces.

I have managed to avoid driving over curbs and such in all my cars I've owned here, which includes a Hellcat and a Scat Pack. But it takes constant awareness of just how narrow roads/driveways are here.

At any rate while I liked the M8 I didn't go any further. But I've been thinking about it... In fact I contacted my insurance agent and got a quote for M8 insurance.

To insure the M8 with the same coverage as my 2023 M2 it would cost me $1218/6 months compared to the 2023 M2 premium of $841/6 months. Roughly $200/month for M8 insurance. (No tickets. No claims. Retired so no work commute or school commute. In 18 months I have averaged 550 miles/month in my M2.)

The M8 would cost me a bit more for insurance than I was paying when I owned a 2024 BMW 230ix and the M2. For these two cars I was paying $1422/6 months.

'course, last August when my car insurance came up for renewal I decided the 230ix was expendable so I sold it back to the dealer. I had decided that owning 2 cars now that I was retired and wasn't facing a day in day out work commute was an unnecessary extra expense.

Some time -- weeks possibly even a few months later -- happened to be back at the dealer for some reason and ran into my CA and happened to mention the M8 which was still on the lot. He said something to me about the car and he included a price: $136,000. This is not the price on the sticker. The car lists for $143,885. I didn't say anything about the price difference but after I got to thinking and I suspect rather than my CA remembering the price wrong the price has been lowered. Not online. Nor last time I was at the dealer and looked did I seen any price reduction signs on the car. But it is a 2024 and now the 2025 models are out the car has undoubtedly been on the lot far longer than the dealer expected.

Tempting. But more times than I care to recall I have gone one car too far. I fear the M8 replacing the M2 would be one car too far.
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      11-05-2024, 03:12 PM   #26
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Had one and loved the car. If you don't like attention, don't get one.
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      11-05-2024, 03:49 PM   #27
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It's a beautiful car for sure.. I just had so much bad luck with mine (M850i). It's also an absolute depreciation monster which some dealers don't want to touch with a 10 foot pole.

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      11-05-2024, 04:05 PM   #28
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I think they're really nice looking; I saw one at the dealership when I was buying my 540i and was immediately drawn to it. They really stand out in traffic; obviously not for those who prefer not to attract a lot of attention. I was briefly thinking about buying one someday (IIRC they're not outrageously expensive used), but I don't live in a city with a bunch of flashy cars and I'm having second thoughts.
It's too heavy.
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      11-06-2024, 12:54 PM   #29
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I think the f12 6 series looks waaaaaaayyyyyyy better than the 8 series.
The 8's more advance tech is the only buying point for me. I know this is nothing new but those car values drop like hot cakes- I recently saw an 8 series going for like 37k. With under 40k miles.
But I would get another a 6 in a heartbeat
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      11-07-2024, 09:46 AM   #30
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It's a beautiful car for sure.. I just had so much bad luck with mine (M850i). It's also an absolute depreciation monster which some dealers don't want to touch with a 10 foot pole.

Rob
My 2nd hand info regarding convertibles is they depreciate like crazy. To someone not aware of that it is a real shock when a couple of years later the owner rolls in to trade in the car for something newer and faces the depreciation. I've heard the exchanges between the customer and the sales staff at the dealer can get real heated when the car owner gets the trade in offer on his convertible...

But severe depreciation isn't limited to a convertible. My experience with buying a used 2003 996 Turbo (not a cab) with <10K miles and a 2 year/100K mile warranty in 2009 is I got the car for $57.7K, less than 1/2 its new (sticker) price of $119,000. I figure the first owner paid $6/mile in depreciation to drive the Turbo for 6 years. Ouch!
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      11-07-2024, 10:08 AM   #31
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I think it's one of the best looking cars BMW has built. I'm partial to the Gran Coupe version but they all look great. The mechanic in me is not a fan of hot V architecture in the M5/8 and M550, so the 840 would hit the sweet spot.

That said, I've been monitoring the T2 and T3 S63 motors and they have definitely improved reliability.
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      11-07-2024, 03:44 PM   #32
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My 2nd hand info regarding convertibles is they depreciate like crazy. To someone not aware of that it is a real shock when a couple of years later the owner rolls in to trade in the car for something newer and faces the depreciation. I've heard the exchanges between the customer and the sales staff at the dealer can get real heated when the car owner gets the trade in offer on his convertible...
The difference is also whether you are selling or buying from a dealership. I've been told before "oh convertibles don't sell" when I was trying to trade before. Then the dealership gets a new 4 series convertible and "it's no problem selling it even before winter", little to no dealer discount.

People aren't stupid, dealerships just want them to be so they can make bank off a deal.

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It's too heavy.
What does that matter? It's not a race car, but a touring car. If someone wants something more spirited then they buy accordingly.

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      11-07-2024, 03:57 PM   #34
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It's too heavy.
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What does that matter? It's not a race car, but a touring car. If someone wants something more spirited then they buy accordingly.

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Correct, it's too heavy for a touring car.

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      11-09-2024, 12:25 PM   #35
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Correct, it's too heavy for a touring car.

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4,295 to 4,560 lbs
I've driven from CA to the mid west and back covering 4K to 5K miles -- in cars weighing in at 2800lbs (Boxster, VW Golf TDi, MINI S) and cars up to 4450lbs (Hellcat) with some cars in between (Mustang GT, Camaro Z28, 2006 Pontiac GTO, 996 Turbo, oh, and a M-B Metris cargo van (which IIRC weighed about as much as the Hellcat).

And my experience was all were fine touring cars. Comfortable. Good vision of the road. Good highway performance. Plenty of cargo space to carry my luggage and assortment of electronics (phone, one sometimes 2 laptops, iPad).

Economical although of course while the VW TDi averaged 40mpg the Hellcat averaged 22mpg...

Best touring vehicles were the VW Golf TDi and the M-B cargo van. Why? Both came with full sized spares. Never had to use the spare on the cargo van but late one night out in the panhandle of TX used the VW's full size spare.

By way of comparison ended up in Fresno in my 996 Turbo with a leaking rear tire. A slow leak thankfully. No tire shop would patch the tire. Fresno Porsche dealer had no tires in stock nor did any local tire store. Had to drive back to Walnut Creek CA where the local dealer had suitable tires. But next AM after spending the night in a nearby hotel found the dealer *didn't* have the tires I was told it had. Called around some more and the Sacramento dealer said it had a set of Bridgestone tires (sanctioned for use on the Turbo) in stock. Drove there and after an hour or two left with 4 new tires. Over $1000 poorer and a good day of my precious vacation time used up.

The next favorite car for long distance driving was the MINI S fitted with run flat tires. But the time I drove it from AR to CA and back the tires were fine.

If I end up with an 8 whether I drive it long distances or not will depend upon various things but not the weight of the car.
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I like the look of the convertible, but the others I am less fond of.
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Correct, it's too heavy for a touring car.

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Yeah don’t get these posts about weight. Every car is heavy. The AMG GT is the same weight almost. All of those competitors are (Panamera, etc.). You can’t feel the weight in the M8 at all…..

It’s a great car. I just got rid of mine a month or two ago. I think the M8 is the best looking. The M850i is a great car, too, for a lesser price.

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I think they're really nice looking; I saw one at the dealership when I was buying my 540i and was immediately drawn to it.

They really stand out in traffic; obviously not for those who prefer not to attract a lot of attention. I was briefly thinking about buying one someday (IIRC they're not outrageously expensive used), but I don't live in a city with a bunch of flashy cars and I'm having second thoughts.
I think the exterioir is really nice looking. The inerior is underwhemling to say the least. The coxkpit is tiny. My shoulders are wider than the seats. I like a sunroof but not a dealbreaker.

I prefer my M550. For a sports car cockpit iwill take my 911 Turbo S. If i had to i would take a 9114S over the M8.
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I had looked at the M850 but the interior looked dated. If they change it next year I might look into one. But… the exterior IMO is one of the best looking cars out there, I want to see what they do with it in the next couple years.
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I had looked at the M850 but the interior looked dated. If they change it next year I might look into one. But… the exterior IMO is one of the best looking cars out there, I want to see what they do with it in the next couple years.
Haven't studied the 8 interior that much but when I looked at some pics I instantly liked that the climate controls are right at hand vs. in my M2 having to touch the climate control symbol to switch the display to climate control and then select the desired setting.
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I had looked at the M850 but the interior looked dated. If they change it next year I might look into one. But… the exterior IMO is one of the best looking cars out there, I want to see what they do with it in the next couple years.
The 8 series is on its way out in 2027. I don't see them updating it very much if at all. Even with the LCI the only change was that the iDrive screen got a few inches larger. Seems like they are just biding their time till the end of their typical 7 year life cycle with it
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The difference is also whether you are selling or buying from a dealership. I've been told before "oh convertibles don't sell" when I was trying to trade before. Then the dealership gets a new 4 series convertible and "it's no problem selling it even before winter", little to no dealer discount.

People aren't stupid, dealerships just want them to be so they can make bank off a deal.

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For sure there is some of that. When buying a car any option it has will be touted as worthy of the money. But bring that same car back to trade in and all those must have at any cost options are negatives and are used to justify a lower trade in value.

My SOP is to research market prices of the car I'm interested in buying to get some idea of what I reasonably expect to pay for the car and the flip side is to research market prices of any car I'm interested in trading in to get some idea of what I can reasonably expect to get for its trade in.
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I had looked at the M850 but the interior looked dated. If they change it next year I might look into one. But… the exterior IMO is one of the best looking cars out there, I want to see what they do with it in the next couple years.

Have you ever sat inside the M8?
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I know I'm probably in the minority here, but the proportions of the 8 look off to me. It looks too "squished" along the horizontal axis, about as much as the new G60 is "tall". I think the G30s were a really good balance of all design elements.
This one is squish?
And what kind of car you are driving to be compared?
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