Stellantis charged by U.S. in dieselgate

chassis · 06-02-2022, 08:14 PM

Dieselgate, the gift that keeps on giving. Stellantis now charged for Ram pickups with diesels. Bosch is the common thread in the VW and Daimler vehicles, it will be interesting to see if Bosch engineered and supplied diesel technology to Stellantis’ Ram trucks, or to Cummins’ engines.

GuidoK · 06-02-2022, 08:34 PM

I don't think it's specifically Bosch. BMW also uses a lot of Bosch ecu's in their diesels and was hardly hit by dieselgate.
In the end it's the decision of the brand's managers that makes the fraude happening.

BMW got fined about € 8,5million for a technical flaw in about 8000 cars, but that is pocketmoney for a big car manufacturer (VAG got fined 1,8 billion and total civil paybacks (mainly in the US) included summed up to 9,8 billion... ouch)

Efthreeoh · 06-05-2022, 08:38 AM

Zzzzzzz...

GuidoK · 06-05-2022, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Zzzzzzz...

why this reaction?

Efthreeoh · 06-05-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

why this reaction?

It's a boring subject and who gives a crap.

GuidoK · 06-05-2022, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

It's a boring subject and who gives a crap.

So don't read it. Nobody compels you to. The subject title is very clear.

I think your reaction is an insult to the effort of the OP.
Your reaction doesn't contribute in any way to this topic.

M3WC · 06-05-2022, 01:50 PM

"Deceived customers"...lol. Like any of those customers give a flying f*ck how much their diesel rig pollutes. No one shops diesel trucks by how much one pollutes over the other.

Efthreeoh · 06-05-2022, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

So don't read it. Nobody compels you to. The subject title is very clear.

I think your reaction is an insult to the effort of the OP.
Your reaction doesn't contribute in any way to this topic.

I get to read anything I want and comment on it. It's an open Forum.

GuidoK · 06-05-2022, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I get to read anything I want and comment on it. It's an open Forum.

yes and you can be disrespectful too all day towards people who add information to this forum...
With that you become the epiphany of your own reaction.

GuidoK · 06-05-2022, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by M3WC

"Deceived customers"...lol. Like any of those customers give a flying f*ck how much their diesel rig pollutes. No one shops diesel trucks by how much one pollutes over the other.

True, but they start giving a f*ck the moment the court decides to compel Stellantis to offer to buy back those vehicles at original retail price like what happened with VW

I wonder if that makes buying a used truck a good investment

Efthreeoh · 06-05-2022, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

yes and you can be disrespectful too all day towards people who add information to this forum...
With that you become the epiphany of your own reaction.

I said the topic is boring. I didn't say one thing to disrespect the OP, I didn't even mention him in my post. Relax.

RM7 · 06-05-2022, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by M3WC

"Deceived customers"...lol. Like any of those customers give a flying f*ck how much their diesel rig pollutes. No one shops diesel trucks by how much one pollutes over the other.

But they would shop by power and torque if all else was equal, right?

But all else isn't equal, because someone is cheating.

Efthreeoh · 06-06-2022, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

yes and you can be disrespectful too all day towards people who add information to this forum...
With that you become the epiphany of your own reaction.

Add information to the Forum... Lol. Go read E90 Post.

GuidoK · 06-06-2022, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Add information to the Forum... Lol.

You keep insulting the OP....why?

heavyD^2 · 06-06-2022, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

You keep insulting the OP....why?

I stated this in another thread but despite a high post count, I don't think that poster is very good at this whole internet forum thing.

Efthreeoh · 06-06-2022, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

I stated this in another thread but despite a high post count, I don't think that poster is very good at this whole internet forum thing.

And you were wrong there too. Lol.

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