2011 Formula 1 Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

E90SLAM · 11-13-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pman10

Well, it produced some great racing between Jenson and Mark, Diresta and buemi, and others. Overtakes never seemed super easy too- I saw few cars just sailing past.

And yes, what's wrong with Mark? He just seems so uneasy with his car, compared to Vettel.

Absolutely between Jenson and Mark, great wheel to wheel for a few times.

I cannot remember who, but in the beginning stages, I recall there were a few times as easy as Turkey. But most of the times the distance is just right!
Even if the first DRS is too easy, the car got passed can revenge right away on the second one.

EINSER M · 11-13-2011, 02:29 PM

who here thinks that a 3 car team is better than having the backmarking loser teams we have now? I DO I DO! why wouldnt bernie agree to that?!?!?!?

8 teams, 3 drivers > 12 teams, 2 drivers

BrokenVert · 11-13-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kirkx5m

who here thinks that a 3 car team is better than having the backmarking loser teams we have now? I DO I DO! why wouldnt bernie agree to that?!?!?!?

8 teams, 3 drivers > 12 teams, 2 drivers

nah. the only absolute issue teams are virgin, lotus, and HRT...they should just be replaced.

There is a great bit of competition in the midfield between Force India, STR, Williams, and Sauber.

johanness · 11-13-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kirkx5m

who here thinks that a 3 car team is better than having the backmarking loser teams we have now? I DO I DO! why wouldnt bernie agree to that?!?!?!?

8 teams, 3 drivers > 12 teams, 2 drivers

No.

Bad day for both Sebastian's. Tragic to see Vettel's blowout, as he had already put 6 car-lengths on LH by turn 2. MAL needs some blue-flag lessons.

JCtx · 11-13-2011, 03:52 PM

Word was a broken suspension part punctured Seb's tire, but nothing was said afterwards. Vettel had a pretty substantial lead by turn 2; shame we didn't see how he'd have done. And yes, it's incredible how much he's matured in every respect in just one season. A class act indeed.

The bright side is he allowed Kobi to score a point

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Finally, turbos + less revs + less cylinders is not conducive to a nice sound, but we'll see. It shouldn't be awful, but not nearly as nice as current V8s. Oh well; nothing we can do. A sign of the times.

E90SLAM · 11-13-2011, 04:05 PM

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gary88 · 11-13-2011, 07:17 PM

Couldn't believe it when Vettel dropped out, still a pretty decent race this year though. Great drives by Hamilton and Alonso, but I really feel great for Hamilton since he really needed a win like this.

E90SLAM · 11-13-2011, 09:07 PM

Did someone asked for the Force India Media girl???

Damn on the last screen shot, the damn camera focused on Vettel!!!

ptack · 11-13-2011, 09:46 PM

If you look really carefully you can see Hamilton slashing Vettel's tire with a box cutter just befor the start.

E90SLAM · 11-13-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ptack

If you look really carefully you can see Hamilton slashing Vettel's tire with a box cutter just befor the start.

I think there's a remote valve that activates right after the start!

raisemyrent · 11-14-2011, 02:36 AM

Webber and Massa suck big time. If I hadn't seen the build-up and qualy, I wouldn't have recognised Macca. He's ANCIENT now.

escobar929 · 11-14-2011, 07:56 AM

great race by the McLaren boys, LH drove very well and so did Button, not having KERS must make things very challenging in the braking, specially when he wasnt sure if it was working or not.

I really dont get why RedBull keeps messing w/ MW, its almost like they want him to lose. If it wasnt for Massa huge mistake, MW would have lost a position and nearly lost another one to Rosberg

Too bad SV had a flat, I thought it could have been a very interesting race since him and LH had a similar pace in Qualifying

E90SLAM · 11-14-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by escobar929

great race by the McLaren boys, LH drove very well and so did Button, not having KERS must make things very challenging in the braking, specially when he wasnt sure if it was working or not.

I really dont get why RedBull keeps messing w/ MW, its almost like they want him to lose. If it wasnt for Massa huge mistake, MW would have lost a position and nearly lost another one to Rosberg

Too bad SV had a flat, I thought it could have been a very interesting race since him and LH had a similar pace in Qualifying

Webber will stuck at the same P4 if he stick with the original strategy.
Thus the team is trying an alternative strategy and hoping he can deliver 15 qualifying laps about 1.5 secs faster than Prime Tires.

However, he was unable to pull the gap and jump Button. Ended up almost being challenged by Massa until he spun. Its a gamble worth taking with minimum risk.

UltimateBMW · 11-14-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by escobar929

Too bad SV had a flat, I thought it could have been a very interesting race since him and LH had a similar pace in Qualifying

I enjoyed that race thoroughly. Glad to see Lewis on the top step again.

Vettel did have very bad luck, but he didn't just have a flat. From everything that I saw, it looked like a full on tire failure. I keep going back to the tire getting pulled off the rim from the lateral G of the second corner. He had zero issue in the first corner, the tire while under load looked fine. Then all of a sudden, the tire is deflated and the rim is scraping along the track not even half way through corner 2. It's really a shame they didn't have a camera set up on the apex of that corner looking in. (Doesn't seem like too much to ask of F1, to have 1 camera at each corner specifically.)

UltimateBMW · 11-14-2011, 05:27 PM

I also agree that Massa and Webber have grown stale. Though, Massa more than Webber. Webber still gets plenty of podiums.

Impervious · 11-14-2011, 05:45 PM

I feel bad for Webber. Yes, he hasn't been doing a whole lot but I feel like he is having to live in Vettel's shadow.

gary88 · 11-15-2011, 08:55 AM

What really happened with Webber's strategy

E90SLAM · 11-15-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gary88

What really happened with Webber's strategy

Should've taken a screenshot from F1 2011 and edit...

yakev724 · 11-17-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gary88

What really happened with Webber's strategy

Lol.

Nice to see Force India stretch 5th. I think PDR has very good potential. Button-esque composure over the past few races imo. Hopefully he can move up.

UltimateBMW · 11-18-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yakev724

Lol.

Nice to see Force India stretch 5th. I think PDR has very good potential. Button-esque composure over the past few races imo. Hopefully he can move up.

Mercedes worked the deal to put him into the Force India seat. I expect that he will take over Schumacher's drive @ Merc GP when he retires again.

Elsabor67 · 11-18-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gary88

What really happened with Webber's strategy

I almost died seeing that. Hilarious!!!

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JCtx Major General 270 Rep 5,018 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	Word was a broken suspension part punctured Seb's tire, but nothing was said afterwards. Vettel had a pretty substantial lead by turn 2; shame we didn't see how he'd have done. And yes, it's incredible how much he's matured in every respect in just one season. A class act indeed. The bright side is he allowed Kobi to score a point . Finally, turbos + less revs + less cylinders is not conducive to a nice sound, but we'll see. It shouldn't be awful, but not nearly as nice as current V8s. Oh well; nothing we can do. A sign of the times.
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escobar929 Brigadier General 154 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: M2 CS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hollywood, FL iTrader: (14) Garage List 2020 M2 CS [10.00] 2020 M240i [0.00]	great race by the McLaren boys, LH drove very well and so did Button, not having KERS must make things very challenging in the braking, specially when he wasnt sure if it was working or not. I really dont get why RedBull keeps messing w/ MW, its almost like they want him to lose. If it wasnt for Massa huge mistake, MW would have lost a position and nearly lost another one to Rosberg Too bad SV had a flat, I thought it could have been a very interesting race since him and LH had a similar pace in Qualifying
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