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      04-26-2011, 04:25 PM   #1
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Space Grey M Sport photos on ebay

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-X...fCarsQ5fTrucks
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      04-26-2011, 05:18 PM   #2
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Worth noting that it is a 28i in case that's not obvious to everyone. Looks decent in Space Gray though.
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That is an MSport on a 28i and I assume that the wheels are not the 19" wheels, the 369Ms, that come with the 35i MSport. Those are definitely NOT the 369M wheels - so that car is not exactly what most of us on here have ordered which is the 35i with the 19" wheels. I don't think those on that car are any more than 18" at best.
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At least there are photos of a real production M-Sport Package...
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They are the 368M wheels - 18".
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At least there are photos of a real production M-Sport Package...
But not on a 35i.......
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      04-26-2011, 05:39 PM   #7
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But not on a 35i.......
Only thing that will be different are the wheels and headlights...
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      04-26-2011, 11:26 PM   #8
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I Wish pics were taken in sunlight or better lighting and resolution. I think its third best looking after AW and Black on M-Sport
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      04-27-2011, 06:28 AM   #9
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I Wish pics were taken in sunlight or better lighting and resolution. I think its third best looking after AW and Black on M-Sport
and Larry was the third best Stooge....

Probably because that's only the third color we've seen so far, right?
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      04-27-2011, 06:45 AM   #10
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I've seen AW in CA, looked stunning but it must be really clean and is bit in your face, probably I'd get tired of it, takes a lot of wax to compensate for it not being metallic too. The was also a Bronze colour, not that nice. The mineral silver I saw in the UK looked good. I've ordered Sapphire Black as Mineral Silver is not available on the MSport.
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Why is this called an M Sport? There are no performance gains are there? Just some stuck on aero kits. Is this just a marketing ploy? Does BMW typically put their M Badge on vehicles without bumping up performance? Seems like it kinda waters down the name.

We are new to the BMW world but when I think of M series I think of performance (bigger brakes, more HP/TQ), apparently that is the wrong assumption. I can't help but feel like this kit is similar to what some 18 year old would glue on their honda civic. I wonder why this doesn't at least have a retuned ECU. That could be done at a small cost and offer great performance gains. People have been tuning the N55 for a while now.

Maybe it is just the nomenclature - M Sport vs M Series?

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The M Sport packages have been around for a few years now on several models of BMWs, and have always been met with some degree of controversy. Many feel as you do that pasting the ///M badge around the car and providing an aero kit was a little sleezy and dilutes the true M brand. Others appreciate that you can add some distinguishing asthetics to your vehicle without refinancing your house for a true M car.

I tend to look at each one individually and assess whether it is a package I like/want. As I have an X5 M Sport and have ordered an X3 M Sport, I reckon I have decided that I like it. They have improved the value of the package by adding some suspension changes as well - but you are right in that there are no changes made to "performance" in terms of HP, transmission, brakes, etc. That would certainly step on the toes of the M brand and also boost the cost of the package so high it would be moot.

Many other brands do likewise, for example Audi has the S-Line package for most vehicles that adds cosmetic elements of the S type.... call it marketing, but I'm on board. In the case of the X3, I almost hate the front of the vehicle without it...
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Why is this called an M Sport? There are no performance gains are there? Just some stuck on aero kits. Is this just a marketing ploy? Does BMW typically put their M Badge on vehicles without bumping up performance? Seems like it kinda waters down the name.

We are new to the BMW world but when I think of M series I think of performance (bigger brakes, more HP/TQ), apparently that is the wrong assumption. I can't help but feel like this kit is similar to what some 18 year old would glue on their honda civic. I wonder why this doesn't at least have a retuned ECU. That could be done at a small cost and offer great performance gains. People have been tuning the N55 for a while now.

Maybe it is just the nomenclature - M Sport vs M Series?
M Sport typically gives you firmer ride (shorter springs), servotronic steering or better (faster rack maybe), yes some subtle skirts etc which are painted (vs unpainted plastic which to some could look crude), sports seats, sports steering wheel, bigger wheels/wider tyres. These are not M cars, they are simply set up up to look and feel a little more sporty. The changes work in many countries, maybe just not where you are.
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Good explanation LEDZEP! And I do agree with your point in making the vehicle unique and certainly appreciate that. The kit will help the X3 stand out in a sea of other plain X3s.

I also didn't realize the kit included some suspension changes which I definitely would consider a performance type tune so maybe there is some justification in the badging.
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and Larry was the third best Stooge....

Probably because that's only the third color we've seen so far, right?
actually no, we have seen all colors on this forum from, Aw, Silver, gray,red, blue and black..carbon black still being a debate.(confused with blue) If I could choose would love it in mineral silver, but the gray aint too shabby
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They are the 368M wheels - 18".
They look small on the M
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They look small on the M
I agree but... 19", staggered, Run Flats, on a 20d didn't seem right to me either. I want some comfort and to maintain mpg and £s. Unless I have a change of mind I'll stick with the 368m and see how I get on.

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No problem with the Space Grey!
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I agree but... 19", staggered, Run Flats, on a 20d didn't seem right to me either. I want some comfort and to maintain mpg and £s. Unless I have a change of mind I'll stick with the 368m and see how I get on.

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I like the wheels and agree with comfort over 19/20s and went for 18s myself
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