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Edmunds 1-series M Coupe First Drive Review
Edmunds was also part of the select group participating in the BMW 1M coupe prototype preliminary drives. Their initial impressions follows:
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10-08-2010, 09:00 PM | #3 |
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Thanks, fixed.
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10-08-2010, 09:12 PM | #4 |
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those rear tires look HUGE. Wish they had more color options and more than 2700 produced. Car looks mean!
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10-08-2010, 11:01 PM | #6 |
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Nice first drive article, definitely more in-depth than usual. I'm really looking forward to this car.
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10-08-2010, 11:52 PM | #7 |
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do you see the resemblance between the two anyone? I don't see it. I don't know why would they call it "NEO E30". But the car will be a one heck of a player.
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10-09-2010, 07:39 AM | #8 |
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What's up with all of the comments about no steering feel? My 335 has always seemed pretty good in that regard, and I assumed the 135 had the same steering rack. Why would the use a different system for the M version? Or is it that the 135 also lacks feel? I've only taken a 1 for a short test drive on a rainy day so didn't get that much experience with it, but it seemed pretty good. If this is a unique charateristic of the 1M, frankly, I might trade my 3 for a 135i instead. Is this also a criticism of the M3?
Up until now I've been convinced that I would get the 1M (have a deposit down and am first on my dealers list). I'm not troubled by the relatively modest improvements or whether it should be called an "is." I really don't care if they called in an "is" or a "tii." I would get it for the improved performance without the hassle of doing a bunch of mods myself (and potentially losing warranty coverage). I'm not interested in the M3 because its too heavy. I need a back seat that I can actually fit my kids into from time to time (so no Porsche's need apply), a little luxury and quality in materials, and great perfromance. I thought the 1M would be perfect, but no steering feel would take if off my list. Any chance this is just a problem with a preproduction prototype that they will fix before production? |
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10-09-2010, 07:50 AM | #9 |
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In the AutoCar link Scott26 posted earlier today they said the new 1M use a electro-mechanical steering system. Probably simular to the Z4 sDrive35iS. AC only commented on how it has no feel on center. Once off center it feels fine. Maybe that is the way Electro systems feel? One nice thing that they said was it was only 2.4 (?) turns lock to lock. Quite fast.
Here is a quote: "The electro-mechanical steering, for all its accuracy, delivers little feedback on centre but it is quite direct, at 2.4 turns lock to lock." AutoCar story... http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...-Coupe/253281/ Scott26's earlier post today... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=440902 Last edited by Dackelone; 10-09-2010 at 07:56 AM.. |
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The closest thing I can find to decent steering feel in a newish BMW is the E46 M3 and the E46 ZHP. T |
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10-09-2010, 08:58 AM | #11 |
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I think they are just referring to the size, bigger, but not by much. I don't think there is much styling resemblance unless your just counting; same number of doors, wheels, tires, ect, etc, etc, lol...
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Exactly right. When I was driving my E30 M3, I was swearing to people that it did not have power assist.
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10-09-2010, 08:47 PM | #15 |
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I think they are referring to concept, and feel. A small, extremely well balanced 2 door coupe. The 1 M Coupe will probably run circles around an E30 M3, with all that torque.
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10-10-2010, 06:12 PM | #16 |
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Encouraging review to say the least. Another praising high-RPM power delivery too, which is great to hear.
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I've got an e90 320si here in Sweden and i think it got the best steeringfeel/response/insteering in to cornering etc after bin testing out: 135i with Bmw performance chassie, e90 335i and the e92 M3. The M3 is to heavy for thight cornering, and the 135i felt to soft in lacked of grip into bends! The stering was difused/blured and did not show any detail i feeling!? I asked the Bmw Performance salesperson about this, and he said that the 135i hade not the same steringcomponents as the 3 series. So maby the 1m has the sam feeling? I diden't like it.. /Fredrik
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No, it is mechanical, but control by electronics, as opposed to the e-diff which is an open diff, and controlled by electronics on the brakes.
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also from inside line quote He said the 1 Series M Coupe will weigh about 3,300 pounds and will be about 3.2 inches wider than the 135i. In terms of performance, Biermann added that "the 1 Series M Coupe will be about 10 seconds faster than the M3" on the Nürburgring's Nordschleife.
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