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      09-25-2018, 12:11 AM   #1
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CP or base..?

Waiting for the October programs to drop and hoping to make a move on a 2019 M5 very soon. I much prefer the styling cues of the CP but I'm concerned about the loss of comfort.

I currently have a 2016 550ix with 19" RF tires and feel the ride is a little harsh on NJ/NY roads, even in comfort mode.

Curious to hear the thoughts of anyone with experience in both models as I'm not sure I'll have the opportunity to test drive back to back before making a decision. Is CP really a big hit in comfort? This is a daily driver for me...not a track car.

Finally...how hard/possible is it to soften the CP ride if necessary?

Thanks for any info!
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Its not CP anymore.
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Not sure what you mean exactly..?
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I don't think the cp is very harsh in the comfort mode and I didn't feel very much difference between it and the non-cp cars I test drove prior to my purchase in the comfort department. If you are really worried, I think of you opt for 19" wheels, you will more than compensate for any additional harshness. Run flat tires suck for ride quality and I hated them on my previous 550 m sport. I truly feel it is a negligible difference in ride quality between comp and non-comp.
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Well, it's a 10% stiffer suspension, so that should give you an idea of the difference. It's also 7mm lower which increases the risk of scraping.
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I don't think the cp is very harsh in the comfort mode and I didn't feel very much difference between it and the non-cp cars I test drove prior to my purchase in the comfort department. If you are really worried, I think of you opt for 19" wheels, you will more than compensate for any additional harshness. Run flat tires suck for ride quality and I hated them on my previous 550 m sport. I truly feel it is a negligible difference in ride quality between comp and non-comp.
There are NO run flat tyres on M3 4 5 or 6.
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Nearly all of the reviews state the base car is extremely comfortable in said mode. Plans for the track, grab up a Competition.

It seems your goal is a comfortable ride, so your best measure is to put your tail in the seat of one and get a reading for yourself.

Good luck!
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I don't think the cp is very harsh in the comfort mode and I didn't feel very much difference between it and the non-cp cars I test drove prior to my purchase in the comfort department. If you are really worried, I think of you opt for 19" wheels, you will more than compensate for any additional harshness. Run flat tires suck for ride quality and I hated them on my previous 550 m sport. I truly feel it is a negligible difference in ride quality between comp and non-comp.
There are NO run flat tyres on M3 4 5 or 6.
I have read the fucking manual. I also read the original post. I have owned 5 M cars and fully understand that M cars do not come with runflat tires. The original post stated that he had run flat tires on his previous 550. I was merely commenting that I disliked the ride quality and harshness provided by runflat tires on my previous 550 as well. I also commented that if he was worried about ride quality on the competition package car he could potentially swap out 20 inch wheels with 19 inch wheels and likely have a more comfortable ride experience.
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I agree with zuschnell that the car in comfort mode is not very harsh at all and only slightly different than the Non-Comp M5 (I test drove this car extensively as my friend owns one).

I think where you will notice the M5 Competition is in the Sport / Sport + mode where the stiffer suspension and slightly more aggressive rebound rates on the springs become more pronounced. I felt less body roll as well when you corner hard with the M5 Competition versus the Non-CP which can be directly attributed to the lower center of gravity and stiffer suspension.

Although your post centered around ride quality I think it's worth noting the exhaust is a big improvement over the base M5 IMO, especially in the Sport + mode where it really awakens. I originally thought I would replace the exhaust but may keep it and possibly go w/ an X-pipe as other members have done. Tone-wise it may not be in line with the Akra I had on my F10 M5 but it's not very far from it.

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Competition Package if I were getting the F90.
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Base m5 with 19” wheels!! The 19 are much lighter than the 20” and it’s rotating weight where it counts!! Also the ride is even more comfortable with the 19 and I think they look the best out of the bunch..
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Its not CP anymore.
Not sure what you mean exactly..?
CP=Competition Package.

It's not a package anymore. It's a trim.

I.e. you don't select competition as you'd select executive package.
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I have just ordered a new M5. I would happily sacrifice a slight edge on cushioning to get a better-handling M5 so I went Competition - the slight drop and black features also make the car look much better to my eyes.

Plus, I knew that I would regret not going for the Competition if I had gone for the ‘standard’ M5.

I expect the move from runflats on your 550 to non-RFT on the M5 will more than offset the stiffer springs.
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CP=Competition Package.

It's not a package anymore. It's a trim.

I.e. you don't select competition as you'd select executive package.

Exactly, I think everyone still aligns the "add on" package as if it was an option on the Monroney... but its not. The Competition Edition is its own car with the features built it in the MSRP. There is no ZCP here when you build the car.

I personally have a First Edition so I got the CE exhaust (already replaced) and Ive lowered (so the CE springs are moot). My car also came with the black grills and black sides so again those aesthetics are gone. The only other main item, for me, is the hp gains and that will be fixed with my tune which is coming soon via the DME. The suspension tidbits (outside of the springs) are a nice add for the CE but again I wanted an FE car. The CE does add forged wheels which drop each corner about 3 lbs if not more...

Its a 7k msrp bump and for some it may not be worth and for others it is. If I was not going to mod the car and didnt have the FE- The CE is clearly the choice IMHO. But if leasing comes into play things change as the 19 non CE has 5k lease cash.
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But if leasing comes into play things change as the 19 non CE has 5k lease cash.
But the 2018's are running at close to $12k off with higher residuals. That's what I'm struggling with. Take the killer deal on a 2018 or wait for a CE 2019 and hope the residuals improve. For me personally, I'm leaning 2018 since I will never see the track and any cosmetic concern I can fix. Even the exhaust is a relatively easy fix.
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But the 2018's are running at close to $12k off with higher residuals. That's what I'm struggling with. Take the killer deal on a 2018 or wait for a CE 2019 and hope the residuals improve. For me personally, I'm leaning 2018 since I will never see the track and any cosmetic concern I can fix. Even the exhaust is a relatively easy fix.
Yes, I was only comparing 19's since no one can get a CE in an 18.

there are no material changes between an 18 and 19 Non CE.
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Yes, I was only comparing 19's since no one can get a CE in an 18.

there are no material changes between an 18 and 19 Non CE.
Just no chrome on the door handles for the 19s
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Go for it all like I did, 2019 COMP. all the way.
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CP=Competition Package.

It's not a package anymore. It's a trim.

I.e. you don't select competition as you'd select executive package.
Relax, it's just semantics and we all know what people referring to CP mean.
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I think it depends on what you plan to do with the car. If you are planning to go aftermarket for wheels, exhaust, coilover...etc, then I would go for base model. Otherwise go for CP.
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CP=Competition Package.

It's not a package anymore. It's a trim.

I.e. you don't select competition as you'd select executive package.
Relax, it's just semantics and we all know what people referring to CP mean.
Lol I don't care what people call it, but there are many forum members though are anal retentive. Trying to spare OP any drama
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Waiting for the October programs to drop and hoping to make a move on a 2019 M5 very soon. I much prefer the styling cues of the CP but I'm concerned about the loss of comfort.

I currently have a 2016 550ix with 19" RF tires and feel the ride is a little harsh on NJ/NY roads, even in comfort mode.

Curious to hear the thoughts of anyone with experience in both models as I'm not sure I'll have the opportunity to test drive back to back before making a decision. Is CP really a big hit in comfort? This is a daily driver for me...not a track car.

Finally...how hard/possible is it to soften the CP ride if necessary?

Thanks for any info!
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Waiting for the October programs to drop and hoping to make a move on a 2019 M5 very soon. I much prefer the styling cues of the CP but I'm concerned about the loss of comfort.

I currently have a 2016 550ix with 19" RF tires and feel the ride is a little harsh on NJ/NY roads, even in comfort mode.

Curious to hear the thoughts of anyone with experience in both models as I'm not sure I'll have the opportunity to test drive back to back before making a decision. Is CP really a big hit in comfort? This is a daily driver for me...not a track car.

Finally...how hard/possible is it to soften the CP ride if necessary?

Thanks for any info!
The sport exhaust is worth it — priced out an "up optioned" M5 vs comp M5 and price wasn't significantly different, glad I went with the comp
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