[MSurge]

I’m sure the S55 can be easily modded to produce the same output as in the M4.
And it’s well known that the output of the S55 is under-stated in the M3/4.

So with the same power and less weight, the M2C will be faster than the M4!!

[voyagergab]

Are you a troll?

[MSurge]

Are you? I’ve paid my deposit and getting an M2C in August/Sept.

You’re posting in the M2C part of the forum. If you can’t take the heat... stay in the M2 section.

[Eddien123]

I mean not to be rude but if you tune it of course it'll be faster? It's down about 40hp from the M4 CP so stock for stock I don't actually think it'll be faster.

[S1monQc]

This guy lol

[voyagergab]

Originally Posted by MSurge

Are you? I’ve paid my deposit and getting an M2C in August/Sept.

You’re posting in the M2C part of the forum. If you can’t take the heat... stay in the M2 section.

I'm not.
But you sure sound like a troll from the level of insight of your posts. Then this post took the cake.

[HODLM]

OP is definitely ordering a DCT. You know, for speed purposes.

[MSurge]

Ordered a 6 speed. Wrong.

It’s obviously significant - same engine, less weight. The M4 has just been rendered obsolete.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Eddien123

I mean not to be rude but if you tune it of course it'll be faster? It's down about 40hp from the M4 CP so stock for stock I don't actually think it'll be faster.

If it was tuned to have stock m4 power then it would probably be faster than m4 with same tires. Doesn't sound like the M2C is much lighter than the M4 though.

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by MSurge

I’m sure the S55 can be easily modded to produce the same output as in the M4.
And it’s well known that the output of the S55 is under-stated in the M3/4.

So with the same power and less weight, the M2C will be faster than the M4!!

I do not see it in stock form as the M2C is heavier than the M4 and down 20 horsepower to my early 15 M4.That being said I did order a M2C for myself and I will track it a lot.

[AlpsRider]

I've read that with the stock M2 wheels the tires can be bumped up to 255/275 without issue. The setup looks much better since the stock tires looked stretched on the stock wheels. Bigger tires along with a slight tune and the M2C will likely give the M4 a run for the money...until the new M4 is released.

[///M Houbi]

I‘ve discussed the S55‘s tuning potential with scandinavia‘s #1 tuner. He said 410->500 will be easy by just ecu tuning and not be a danger for the motor at all. New intake system, downpipe plus different ecu tuning, up to 580hp.

[allthatisntnow]

Originally Posted by Houbi

I‘ve discussed the S55‘s tuning potential with scandinavia‘s #1 tuner. He said 410->500 will be easy by just ecu tuning and not be a danger for the motor at all. New intake system, downpipe plus different ecu tuning, up to 580hp.

Any mention of additional restrictions from the particle filter? Im concerned that'll have an impact on the tuning of this platform in Europe.

[dmboone25]

I think the M2C could definitely be more fun than an M4, given the shorter wheelbase, smaller overall size, and associated dynamics that come with those differences.

Not sure if it will be faster though - will be fun to watch the inevitable comparisons.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by allthatisntnow

Any mention of additional restrictions from the particle filter? Im concerned that'll have an impact on the tuning of this platform in Europe.

How will that work for you guys in the EU? Can you just take it off and use a different exhaust?

[Guydj1]

Originally Posted by MSurge

I’m sure the S55 can be easily modded to produce the same output as in the M4.
And it’s well known that the output of the S55 is under-stated in the M3/4.

So with the same power and less weight, the M2C will be faster than the M4!!

Take a look at fastestlaps.com and compare current M2 to M4 & M4 competition shows straight line performance and track times for comparison. Given that the stated m2c Nürburgring time is 7min 52sec. Please correct me if I’m wrong but that is on a par with the M4.

It kind of reminds me when Porsche didn’t want to give the cayman too much power so not to upset it’s bigger brother

[Guydj1]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

How will that work for you guys in the EU? Can you just take it off and use a different exhaust?

Will be an issue come MOT time which has to be done on the cars 3rd anniversary in the uk. I’m sure there are some friendly MOT test stations as Lots of people run decats which won’t pass the emissions

[///M Houbi]

Originally Posted by allthatisntnow

Any mention of additional restrictions from the particle filter? Im concerned that'll have an impact on the tuning of this platform in Europe.

Will discuss it with him and let you know 👍🏼

[MSurge]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I do not see it in stock form as the M2C is heavier than the M4 and down 20 horsepower to my early 15 M4.That being said I did order a M2C for myself and I will track it a lot.

Ah, right, thanks for correcting me. I had assumed M2C would be lighter than the M4 since it's smaller.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by MSurge

Ah, right, thanks for correcting me. I had assumed M2C would be lighter than the M4 since it's smaller.

The Euro M2C is heavier. It is splitting hairs and probably a pointless debate, but the 5lbs or more could be made up by US not getting the big particulate filter.

[Evil///M]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I do not see it in stock form as the M2C is heavier than the M4 and down 20 horsepower to my early 15 M4.That being said I did order a M2C for myself and I will track it a lot.

Would love to know where you got this info from?

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by MSurge

Ah, right, thanks for correcting me. I had assumed M2C would be lighter than the M4 since it's smaller.

M2C lacks the M4 weight saving measures like the aluminum front clip,carbon fibre in the roof and driveshaft plus other measures to reduce the mass.But that is not unexpected in a car that is a lot cheaper.