NBT EVO: ID5 to ID6

antah · 07-22-2017, 03:23 PM

I left my car at the dealer and got 430xD F36 for a weekend. And I was surprised to see ID6 there (like new 5 series) when I have ID5 (like new 7 series). I take it they are both NBT EVO, so, upgrading should only be by doing some coding? Am I correct to think so? Cheers.

Almaretto · 07-23-2017, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by antah

I left my car at the dealer and got 430xD F36 for a weekend. And I was surprised to see ID6 there (like new 5 series) when I have ID5 (like new 7 series). I take it they are both NBT EVO, so, upgrading should only be by doing some coding? Am I correct to think so? Cheers.

HU_NBT2 (AKA EVO) comes in a few flavors.

There is ID6 & ID6_lite; the ladder is a different skin on ID5 that can be coded.

antah · 07-24-2017, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

HU_NBT2 (AKA EVO) comes in a few flavors.

There is ID6 & ID6_lite; the ladder is a different skin on ID5 that can be coded.

But, i believe "skin" (which is probably right name indeed) wasn't pre-loaded with my F31. So, firmware should be somehow updated? Am I saying it right?

Also, I know with "better" cars, like 7 series, there were added new options like folded mirrors options. You can now set the car to automatically close mirrors when closing the car within iDrive.. anything like that into 3-series?

Mashman · 07-24-2017, 09:22 AM

There are no hardware differences between ID5 and ID6, the changes are handled via coding. There is a hardware difference between older ID4 units, which only have 2GB of memory, VS 4GB of memory in the newer units.

Simply FDL code HMI_ID_VERSION to 'id6_light' and you will get the large active tiles.

You can code options like automatic closing mirrors - code SETTINGS_AUTOMATIC_EXT_MIRROR_FOLDING from 'nicht_aktiv' to 'aktiv' and the setting will show up in menus, but unless the car has the required hardware to execute the command, then it's simply not going to do anything.

Almaretto · 07-24-2017, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by antah

But, i believe "skin" (which is probably right name indeed) wasn't pre-loaded with my F31. So, firmware should be somehow updated? Am I saying it right?

Also, I know with "better" cars, like 7 series, there were added new options like folded mirrors options. You can now set the car to automatically close mirrors when closing the car within iDrive.. anything like that into 3-series?

If you do not see coding option, then you must update firmware.

You can enable many options to show on IDrive, but they will not work on cars that are not equipped with adequate hardware.

antah · 07-25-2017, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

If you do not see coding option, then you must update firmware.

You can enable many options to show on IDrive, but they will not work on cars that are not equipped with adequate hardware.

Sorry, could you please point me to an article "BMW coding for dummies"?

I wonder if I need OBD to USB or all this popular new Wi-Fi OBD will work as well?

Almaretto · 07-25-2017, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by antah

Sorry, could you please point me to an article "BMW coding for dummies"?

I wonder if I need OBD to USB or all this popular new Wi-Fi OBD will work as well?

Fxx-/Ixx-/Gxx-series Coding: Getting Started Guides, Tips, & Cheat Sheets

OBDII to USB is K+DCAN and will only work on E-series and R-series Mini. You need OBDII to RJ45 Ethernet (ie ENET).

antah · 07-26-2017, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

Fxx-/Ixx-/Gxx-series Coding: Getting Started Guides, Tips, & Cheat Sheets

OBDII to USB is K+DCAN and will only work on E-series and R-series Mini. You need OBDII to RJ45 Ethernet (ie ENET).

Thanks a lot!

Almaretto · 07-26-2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by antah

Thanks a lot!

Araemo · 07-27-2017, 06:31 AM

So, I noticed that in the BMW connected app, it now says that while spotify is 'supported in all bmw series with bmw apps', pandora is only supported in '2016 and newer bmw 7 series with bmw apps option'.

Given that the 7-series is iDrive 5.0, is there a way to activate this for my 2017 340 w/ iDrive 5.0? (Similar to the skin change discussed?)

MrMarvin · 07-29-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

If you do not see coding option, then you must update firmware.

You can enable many options to show on IDrive, but they will not work on cars that are not equipped with adequate hardware.

I tried coding this particular option in my car, which has the electric folding mirrors. The option shows and everything, but i can't activate it. Do i need to code something more or is this feature just not supported in my car?

Almaretto · 07-29-2017, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMarvin

I tried coding this particular option in my car, which has the electric folding mirrors. The option shows and everything, but i can't activate it. Do i need to code something more or is this feature just not supported in my car?

It simply will not work.

Tr0y · 08-29-2017, 05:24 PM

Any idea what firmware version is needed to have this option?

ColinDuff68 · 10-01-2017, 09:59 AM

I have a 2017 f30. I tried to code id6 but it doesn't list it in the drop down box. Any suggestions?

Araemo · 10-01-2017, 04:55 PM

So, I have a 2017 340, and if I look in ncd/cafd tool, I see id6_lite and id6 as options for the HMI_ID_VERSION setting. With the current setting being id5_plus_plus. Does this really suggest I can just change the coding to id6, or even id6_lite and gain features?

Almaretto · 10-01-2017, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Araemo

So, I have a 2017 340, and if I look in ncd/cafd tool, I see id6_lite and id6 as options for the HMI_ID_VERSION setting. With the current setting being id5_plus_plus. Does this really suggest I can just change the coding to id6, or even id6_lite and gain features?

Yes, you can switch ID5++ to ID6_lite to have live tiles.

Araemo · 10-02-2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

Yes, you can switch ID5++ to ID6_lite to have live tiles.

Does that enable anything else? Pandora link, etc?

Almaretto · 10-02-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Araemo

Does that enable anything else? Pandora link, etc?

Nope. Just a slightly different skin with basically the same features.

ColinDuff68 · 11-04-2017, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Almaretto

If you do not see coding option, then you must update firmware.

You can enable many options to show on IDrive, but they will not work on cars that are not equipped with adequate hardware.

How do I update the firmware? My car is 2017 335d xdrive.

Almaretto · 11-04-2017, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinDuff68

How do I update the firmware? My car is 2017 335d xdrive.

Flashing Guide.

larry_bml · 03-20-2018, 04:38 AM

Hello, I have installed an NBT EVO to an friend and I saw something nice on his navigation with on another NBT EVO I can't show.
Take a look to the picture and see the NEXT TURN FLAG in red circle. Can someone tell me what needs to be coded or what has to be set in navigation settings for that flag to appear?

Thank you in advance.

Almaretto · 03-22-2018, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by larry_bml

Hello, I have installed an NBT EVO to an friend and I saw something nice on his navigation with on another NBT EVO I can't show.
Take a look to the picture and see the NEXT TURN FLAG in red circle. Can someone tell me what needs to be coded or what has to be set in navigation settings for that flag to appear?

Thank you in advance.

You can use TM NCD / CAFD tool to compare friend and your NCD's.

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antah Private First Class 17 Rep 120 Posts Drives: G31 530xD Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: CZ, Europe iTrader: (1)	NBT EVO: ID5 to ID6 I left my car at the dealer and got 430xD F36 for a weekend. And I was surprised to see ID6 there (like new 5 series) when I have ID5 (like new 7 series). I take it they are both NBT EVO, so, upgrading should only be by doing some coding? Am I correct to think so? Cheers. __________________ Honda Accord -> Subaru STi -> E93 -> F30 + F15 -> F30 -> F31 LCI -> G31
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Mashman First Lieutenant 118 Rep 342 Posts Drives: E93 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Heaven / TX iTrader: (0)	There are no hardware differences between ID5 and ID6, the changes are handled via coding. There is a hardware difference between older ID4 units, which only have 2GB of memory, VS 4GB of memory in the newer units. Simply FDL code HMI_ID_VERSION to 'id6_light' and you will get the large active tiles. You can code options like automatic closing mirrors - code SETTINGS_AUTOMATIC_EXT_MIRROR_FOLDING from 'nicht_aktiv' to 'aktiv' and the setting will show up in menus, but unless the car has the required hardware to execute the command, then it's simply not going to do anything. __________________ I keep getting robbed because I leave the front door open.. I could close it but I feel doing so would be a victory for the thieves....
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Araemo Lieutenant 191 Rep 521 Posts Drives: 2017 340iX 6MT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NE Ohio iTrader: (0)	So, I noticed that in the BMW connected app, it now says that while spotify is 'supported in all bmw series with bmw apps', pandora is only supported in '2016 and newer bmw 7 series with bmw apps option'. Given that the 7-series is iDrive 5.0, is there a way to activate this for my 2017 340 w/ iDrive 5.0? (Similar to the skin change discussed?)
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Tr0y First Lieutenant 118 Rep 311 Posts Drives: F33 428i M Sport Convertible Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Leicester iTrader: (0)	Any idea what firmware version is needed to have this option?
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ColinDuff68 Second Lieutenant 91 Rep 233 Posts Drives: BMW X4 M40d Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Blackpool iTrader: (0)	I have a 2017 f30. I tried to code id6 but it doesn't list it in the drop down box. Any suggestions?
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Araemo Lieutenant 191 Rep 521 Posts Drives: 2017 340iX 6MT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NE Ohio iTrader: (0)	So, I have a 2017 340, and if I look in ncd/cafd tool, I see id6_lite and id6 as options for the HMI_ID_VERSION setting. With the current setting being id5_plus_plus. Does this really suggest I can just change the coding to id6, or even id6_lite and gain features?
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larry_bml First Lieutenant 194 Rep 325 Posts Drives: BMW F30 Sport Line 320ded Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Romania - Pitesti iTrader: (0)	Need Help Hello, I have installed an NBT EVO to an friend and I saw something nice on his navigation with on another NBT EVO I can't show. Take a look to the picture and see the NEXT TURN FLAG in red circle. Can someone tell me what needs to be coded or what has to be set in navigation settings for that flag to appear? Thank you in advance. Attached Images
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