[rich123321]

If I program my 2015 F30 with my garage door opener, can someone break in and hit the button and the garage door will open? I know this was a problem on past models but was hoping this was solved on the F30

[dr adequate]

Originally Posted by rich123321

If I program my 2015 F30 with my garage door opener, can someone break in and hit the button and the garage door will open? I know this was a problem on past models but was hoping this was solved on the F30

Once the car is off the remote function does not work, so they would not be able to access the garage

[kern417]

can't they do that on any car with a regular garage door opener anyway?

[bimmer456]

It is the case that the homelink doesn't work with the car off, however I can turn on the car without the keyfob, just can't start the engine. Haven't tried it this way to see if the homelink is on in this state but it's the same with any car. Some cars allow the homelink to work even when the car is off. I wouldn't worry to much about it as like the other poster said it's no different than using the factory remote for your garage.

[Billfitz]

Park the car in the garage, problem solved.

[otay]

Originally Posted by rich123321

If I program my 2015 F30 with my garage door opener, can someone break in and hit the button and the garage door will open? I know this was a problem on past models but was hoping this was solved on the F30

Why not test it? Park, go inside for a few minutes and leave your key fob there, go back out & test it.

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I have garage space for mine.

[RAK92]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

It is the case that the homelink doesn't work with the car off, however I can turn on the car without the keyfob, just can't start the engine. Haven't tried it this way to see if the homelink is on in this state but it's the same with any car. Some cars allow the homelink to work even when the car is off. I wouldn't worry to much about it as like the other poster said it's no different than using the factory remote for your garage.

How can you turn on the car without the keyfob? Maybe it's something that has recently changed because I cannot do that on my 2016 453i. I would think that would be something you wouldn't want to be able to do in the first place.

[RAK92]

Originally Posted by otay

Why not test it? Park, go inside for a few minutes and leave your key fob there, go back out & test it.

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I have garage space for mine.

I must have power on in the car to use the Homelink. At first I would always forget after I turned the car off, but now I'm used to it...

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by RAK92

How can you turn on the car without the keyfob? Maybe it's something that has recently changed because I cannot do that on my 2016 453i. I would think that would be something you wouldn't want to be able to do in the first place.

Yes it is odd that you can do that on the new models. I did it at the dealership as well. You could access destinations and the phone book if you have it saved or the phone is nearby. Not sure if it works if the alarm goes off though or after it stops by itself. Also you can't start the engine it will give the error message that engine start is not possible but eventually will tell you to hold the fob near the steering column if you press it again I believe.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by RAK92

How can you turn on the car without the keyfob? Maybe it's something that has recently changed because I cannot do that on my 2016 453i. I would think that would be something you wouldn't want to be able to do in the first place.

I can't imagine BMW making this change. I'd like to hear from someone who actually owns a 2017 model report on this.

[kenwelch]

We have a 2017 440GC with comfort access.
Just tried to turn on vehicle without key fob, no homelink operation, only a warning that you need to have the key fob. Second attempt brings up warning to put key near steering column. Still no homelink operation. If I had the old style door opener they could just walk with it and open later anytime they wanted. Homelink wins.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by rich123321

If I program my 2015 F30 with my garage door opener, can someone break in and hit the button and the garage door will open? I know this was a problem on past models but was hoping this was solved on the F30

With BMW's system in the F30, only if the car ignition is ON. All other cars I have had with Homelink, the buttons always worked. So if I parked my cars in the driveway, I had to lock the openers inside the garage.

Originally Posted by kern417

can't they do that on any car with a regular garage door opener anyway?

Sure, but if you have Homelink, you won't have the separate opener remote in the car.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

It is the case that the homelink doesn't work with the car off, however I can turn on the car without the keyfob, just can't start the engine. Haven't tried it this way to see if the homelink is on in this state but it's the same with any car. Some cars allow the homelink to work even when the car is off. I wouldn't worry to much about it as like the other poster said it's no different than using the factory remote for your garage.

How? This is Fake News.

This is the only thing that happens if you try to start the car without the fob:

Originally Posted by kenwelch

We have a 2017 440GC with comfort access.
Just tried to turn on vehicle without key fob, no homelink operation, only a warning that you need to have the key fob. Second attempt brings up warning to put key near steering column. Still no homelink operation. If I had the old style door opener they could just walk with it and open later anytime they wanted. Homelink wins.

[kern417]

Originally Posted by tex2670

Sure, but if you have Homelink, you won't have the separate opener remote in the car.

yeah i get that, i just don't get the concern since it has always worked that way. There are times i'm outside and just use the garage door opener in my car, would be kind of annoying to have to turn it on just to use that.

[RAK92]

Originally Posted by kenwelch

We have a 2017 440GC with comfort access.
Just tried to turn on vehicle without key fob, no homelink operation, only a warning that you need to have the key fob. Second attempt brings up warning to put key near steering column. Still no homelink operation. If I had the old style door opener they could just walk with it and open later anytime they wanted. Homelink wins.

Just tried mine as well and same results as you (2016 435i).

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by kern417

yeah i get that, i just don't get the concern since it has always worked that way.

You can unclip the remote from your visor and take in your house if you are worried about it. I don't suggest doing that with your rear view mirror.

[kern417]

Originally Posted by tex2670

You can unclip the remote from your visor and take in your house if you are worried about it. I don't suggest doing that with your rear view mirror.

what i'm saying is i've never been worried about it in the first place lol. i park my beater outside with a garage door opener, no tint, radar detector hanging from the windshield.... so yes, someone can smash my windows and steal stuff from my house but i'm not putting up barbed wire and steel grating. it just seems like a sketchy area to begin with if that's an actual concern. at the end of the day everything in your car is a deterent but if a thief wants it and has the know-how they'll take it.

[rich123321]

Originally Posted by kern417

what i'm saying is i've never been worried about it in the first place lol. i park my beater outside with a garage door opener, no tint, radar detector hanging from the windshield.... so yes, someone can smash my windows and steal stuff from my house but i'm not putting up barbed wire and steel grating. it just seems like a sketchy area to begin with if that's an actual concern. at the end of the day everything in your car is a deterent but if a thief wants it and has the know-how they'll take it.

There's a fine line between being an idiot and making sure you don't have to deal with broken windows and the thought of the thief coming back to your house with his own garage door opener

[rich123321]

Also I have confirmed that with windows down and ignition off, the car cuts power to homelink. 100% safe

[paul e]

Originally Posted by kern417

what i'm saying is i've never been worried about it in the first place lol. i park my beater outside with a garage door opener, no tint, radar detector hanging from the windshield.... so yes, someone can smash my windows and steal stuff from my house but i'm not putting up barbed wire and steel grating. it just seems like a sketchy area to begin with if that's an actual concern. at the end of the day everything in your car is a deterent but if a thief wants it and has the know-how they'll take it.

Uh huh. Say hello to your new "roommate" for me. Make sure you or your survivor show the policeman/coroner the post so they can close the case.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by kern417

what i'm saying is i've never been worried about it in the first place lol. i park my beater outside with a garage door opener, no tint, radar detector hanging from the windshield.... so yes, someone can smash my windows and steal stuff from my house but i'm not putting up barbed wire and steel grating. it just seems like a sketchy area to begin with if that's an actual concern. at the end of the day everything in your car is a deterent but if a thief wants it and has the know-how they'll take it.

Just because you aren't worried about it, doesn't mean you shouldn't be. This is exactly what criminals bank on.

Criminals don't want to break into houses in "sketchy" areas--they want to break into houses in nice areas. And if you leave a key to your house (i.e., a garage door remote) outside for them, it makes it that much easier for them to break in. Most thieves want the easy route, and if it's not easy, they move on to the next house. They don't want to use all of their "know-how" to get into your house; your neighbor has a computer, flat screen, etc, as well.

I live in a quiet suburban area, and I look at the local "police briefs" every week from the local on-line news site. Many entries are car "break ins" where the car was left unlocked. And I've seen home break ins, usually where it specifies the thieves cut a screen door, or something easy like that. Or during the middle of the day when no one is home, to avoid confrontation.

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by tex2670

How? This is Fake News.

This is the only thing that happens if you try to start the car without the fob:

Sorry it's not fake news, I can turn the stereo on and the car is basically on without the keyfob, even did it at the dealership on a 2 series. Also was possible at the UDE. Maybe the software is different on same cars. You should see for yourself before you declare it fake news. I have a 340i 2016 and can definately do it. The homelink dosen't work but you can press the power button on the stereo and access i drive without the keyfob.