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Automobile Mag: Porsche 718 Boxster S vs Ford Focus RS vs BMW M2 (DCT)
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Bought the August issue of Automobile Mag in the US as it contains a review of a Porsche 718 Boxster S vs Ford Focus RS vs BMW M2 comparo ("The Entertainers: BMW M2 vs. Ford Focus RS vs. Porsche 718 Boxster S - Similar abilities, but vastly different attitudes"), as well as an M4 GTS review ("Driven: BMW M4 GTS - Nothing Rational About it"). To be distinguished from another car review between the same cars: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1284351 Noticed that the comparo review is also online: http://www.automobilemag.com/news/th...718-boxster-s/ "The BMW M2’s turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-six, rated at 365 horsepower and 343 lb-ft of torque available from just 1,400 rpm, is smoother and sounds better than the four-cylinders, and the addition of BMW’s fully variable Active M Differential system helps put the power down with authority. The M2 we have on hand is gothic black inside and out; even its 19-inch wheels are as dark as a coal mine at night. Just about everything is included in the car’s generous standard specification, save BMW’s M DCT—the seven-speed dual-clutch transmission that is fitted to our test machine. It’s a nice option to have, but only as long as the owner is committed to working the paddles. Swift upshifts are particularly rewarding in the car’s DSC Sport setting that plugs the gap between yawn and yell and helps get the most out of the M2’s powertrain.Full review @ http://www.automobilemag.com/news/th...718-boxster-s/
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Sweet! Now for a follow-up review in warm conditions. Still very close given the price differences among each.
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It is laughable to think Porsche has put a 4 cylinder engine in the Boxster... if you were confused you'd think they've thrown the TFSI engine from the Golf R into a Porsche
There is a huge, huge qualitative difference between 6 and 4 cylinders. It's bad enough the world needs turbo cars everywhere... now 4 cylinder ones... |
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I usually really enjoy Automobile Mag's editorial, but I really struggled to make it through this one. I couldn't get oriented. I felt like the author jumped around between vehicle's & topics, but never really anchored his viewpoints in a way that allowed me to understand how each car relates to the other.
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"It’s the true successor to the E46 M3 of 10 years ago—immensely chuckable, outright rowdy, wonderfully temperamental, and within reach of more budgets."
No - it's definitely not. Not because of the reason that I say the M346 is such a good car (it is quite enjoyable, but it has it's flaws), but because I think that you can't even compare them in other things than size. The engine, gearbox and suspension of the M346 is so different to the M2s, if you go drive these cars back to back (what I did recently, that's why I judge it), I really think that the M2 is a little bit to much of a "every-darlings-car". The MT gearbox could be operated by my mum without a problem (without offending any gender here), same goes to the steering. I think it is quite "hard" to drive the M346 with an MT in an ambitious way. Not everyone can do that - you need a bit of experience and know how to engange the clutch and gas pedal properly. Same goes for the steering as it is completely hydraulic and sometimes difficult to operate. The M2 is so much easier to drive - the engine is pretty decent, but still lacks a lot of the excitement of a NA I6 from the past that revs until 8. The sound of the M2 is very nice, but you can always feel that it is some kind of "digital" and you always know what is coming. The M346 is much more multi-faceted when it comes to sound and behavior. The M2 is a very nice car, even better when we are talking about cars from todays day and age. I am definitely happy with the result of the M2 in general, and I would not order a car without navigation, connected drive and all that stuff. So I am happy that the M2 exists. Other than that it seperates itself nicely from the competitors and still offers a MT, I6 and RWD driving experience, which is kind of rare today. But please, dear journalists, stop comparing it to the M330, M346 or whatever. All of these cars are great in their own way, but they are all completely different when driven the way they suppose to be.
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Thanks for posting!
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That's all we really need to know.
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This is a repost of my thread started on April 21.
The author, Georg Kacher syndicates his articles to different magazines and CAR UK was the 1st one to post his article... http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1252517
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Are the rear windows tinted/dyed black from the factory? That looks really uneven and stupid IMO. basically makes you have to tint the front ones to match.
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4 cylinder engines are ok for a Golf R, Civic Type R, etc. The Porsche costs multiple times as much as those and should have a better engine. I'm sure some nutjob could make a one cylinder engine with 800hp that is really really fast. It doesn't change the qualitative aspect which is again, a piece of crap I look forward to the on track speed of the Boxster S. Maybe now they will not get their doors torn off by simple E92 M3s anymore. |
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As for a boxster S having its doors torn off. http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ao2spi57eagj Boxster S is faster on all but 2 tracks where it was made for. If you're taking driving events, then that's down to the driver but equal factors the 981 S was by and large the faster track car. But if it wasn't fast enough in a straight, which is guess you're alluding to, no not the case anymore given how much faster the turbo cars are over their predecessors. Do you like the current M3/4 and its qualitative characteristics? |
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