[fuddman]

Per Scott.26: "This render is around 95% accurate from this position except for a bit more visual additions on the rear aerodynamics."

[Adem1534]

This render is very, very, off.

A completely incorrect rear bumper and side vent that is very off, not to mention the completely lack of flare fenders, accounts for far more than 5% off.

I'd say this render is 10% accurate.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

This render is very, very, off.

A completely incorrect rear bumper and side vent that is very off, not to mention the completely lack of flare fenders, accounts for far more than 5% off.

I'd say this render is 10% accurate.

With that being said, I actually do like this render.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

This render is very, very, off.

A completely incorrect rear bumper and side vent that is very off, not to mention the completely lack of flare fenders, accounts for far more than 5% off.

I'd say this render is 10% accurate.

I'm not trying to be argumentative; but, do you have renderings or pictures which support your conclusion?
Scott.26 introduced this picture and made the statement on March 27, '15. I kinda like believing the guy is close to the action. His comments, therefore, provide significant insight. At least to me. Which is why I quote him.

The confusion (and sometime, disagreements) about design renderings of the car may be because of something else Scott.26 has mentioned - on several occasions. There are two different M2 designs being considered. The rendering you see here may be the "standard" M2. The other M2 is a more aggressive, aerodynamic, track oriented, design. This yellow car, being the "standard" M2, could explain why, as you have noted, the car lacks, among other things, significantly flared fenders. The other car, with it's aggressive design, would be the one with the more muscular flared fenders.
Just some thoughts as as I while away the time waiting for the next reveal.

[Steven1077]

I've yet to see a camo M2 with arches anything like that small, that render looks like an M235 with quad pipes

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by Steven1077

I've yet to see a camo M2 with arches anything like that small......

How about this one:

[Adem1534]

Originally Posted by fuddman

I'm not trying to be argumentative; but, do you have renderings or pictures which support your conclusion?
Scott.26 introduced this picture and made the statement on March 27, '15. I kinda like believing the guy is close to the action. His comments, therefore, provide significant insight. At least to me. Which is why I quote him.

The confusion (and sometime, disagreements) about design renderings of the car may be because of something else Scott.26 has mentioned - on several occasions. There are two different M2 designs being considered. The rendering you see here may be the "standard" M2. The other M2 is a more aggressive, aerodynamic, track oriented, design. This yellow car, being the "standard" M2, could explain why, as you have noted, the car lacks, among other things, significantly flared fenders. The other car, with it's aggressive design, would be the one with the more muscular flared fenders.
Just some thoughts as as I while away the time waiting for the next reveal.

I see what you're saying, but I am basing my percentage only based on changes. So yes this could be 95% accurate, but that's saying that the fact it already looks like a 2 series counts as being accurate, which I wouldn't do.

Regarding the rear aero, here is the thread which documents what I and Artemis derived from some spy shots. There's a lot in there! This car is mimicking the Vision Gt6 concept far more than people realize
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1087272

[Artemis]

He posted the yellow render in October 2014 with the following comment:

"Can I tell you if anything is familiar with the new render?
Well the side breather and pronounced arches shown here for the front and rear are on the right path, as is the wheel design. The rear valance is similar but there is additional rear breathers like the 1er M Coupe rear bumper.
Although definitely the front end has to be looked at."
(http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...&postcount=213)

Source of this render: CAR magazine - November 2014 issue:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sho...shot-revealed/
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1056723
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1046911

And here are some visuals (M2 test mule) illustrating why the front fascia in that yellow render is inaccurate:
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...01&postcount=1

[Cope]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

This render is very, very, off.

A completely incorrect rear bumper and side vent that is very off, not to mention the completely lack of flare fenders, accounts for far more than 5% off.

I'd say this render is 10% accurate.

I'd say you're over estimating the fender flares of the M2, just look at these comparison photos between 1M spy shots and M2 spy shots:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...98&postcount=1

The flares on bmw 2 doors have gotten a lot more subtle, just look at the new M3/4, it's the M3 that has the flares...

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Cope

I'd say you're over estimating the fender flares of the M2, just look at these comparison photos between 1M spy shots and M2 spy shots:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...98&postcount=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.2addicts....ostcount=1</a>" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://<a href="http...ount=1</a></a>

The flares on bmw 2 doors have gotten a lot more subtle, just look at the new M3/4, it's the M3 that has the flares...

agreed. the M2 is going to be very M4-ish....not as wide as the 1M for sure....but might be somewhere between the F80 M3 and M4. It will still be significantly more aggressive than the standard 235 though....which is minimally flared.

[Adem1534]

But their shape and execution is really what I mean

[allthatisntnow]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

agreed. the M2 is going to be very M4-ish....not as wide as the 1M for sure....but might be somewhere between the F80 M3 and M4. It will still be significantly more aggressive than the standard 235 though....which is minimally flared.

M235i width (excl. mirrors) 1774mm
1M width (excl. mirrors) 1803

29mm difference

The M3 is 66mm wider (excl. mirrors) than the basic 3 series

If the M2 is narrower than the 1M ill eat my hat.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by allthatisntnow

M235i width (excl. mirrors) 1774mm
1M width (excl. mirrors) 1803

29mm difference

The M3 is 66mm wider (excl. mirrors) than the basic 3 series

If the M2 is narrower than the 1M ill eat my hat.

talking about fender flares not 'total width'. flares are about proportions not absolute width. you are right the total width will for sure be more on the M2 but the 235 is a wider car to begin with (even though it has no real flares) than the 135

the 135 was 1748mm so 55mm less than the 1M....most of the increase represented in mega fender flares!!

The width can be designed over in many ways....see the huge differences in appearance between the M3 and M4----the M3 looks so much more aggressive than the M4.

[allthatisntnow]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

talking about fender flares not 'total width'. flares are about proportions not absolute width. you are right the total width will for sure be more on the M2 but the 235 is a wider car to begin with (even though it has no real flares) than the 135

the 135 was 1748mm so 55mm less than the 1M....most of the increase represented in mega fender flares!!

The width can be designed over in many ways....see the huge differences in appearance between the M3 and M4----the M3 looks so much more aggressive than the M4.

Oh right, i see where you're coming from now. Yeah for sure the M2 will have more blended bodywork than the "bolt on" look the 1M and M3 have. Hopefully it'll have a bit more aggression on the front flares then the rear haunches though.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by allthatisntnow

Oh right, i see where you're coming from now. Yeah for sure the M2 will have more blended bodywork than the "bolt on" look the 1M and M3 have. Hopefully it'll have a bit more aggression on the front flares then the rear haunches though.

I think the M2 will be pretty aggressive; more than the M4 for sure!

[Artemis]

For a functional reason the F80 M3 fenders are more "flared" than those of the F82 M4.
See my earlier post: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=19

And the M2 base version flares will be more affiliated to the M4 flares than to the M3 flares.

[Artemis]

And for sure the M2 gets a wider track than the M235i.

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

This is not the final body. These prototypes use the M235i Racing body to help with the wider track. The new body is influenced by the M235i Racing as well as the Vision Gran Turismo Concept car.
If we bring the front end of the Vision GT to a more realistic view in terms of proportion it is almost exact.
Some equipment and features are not deemed necessary at this point as the chassis and engine will be the current priority for the engineers.
Details come later.

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

If we go back to early 2009 what was the BMW 1er M Coupe prototype initially was a standard 135i but with the M track and drivetrain. There was nothing to see because the priorities were with what is underneath. It's the same story here as it is the same story on any BMW prototype. It's what is underneath that counts first, final definition as in body work, details and styling comes later.
I thought everybody would know this by now...
We did not see a final prototype with the final body till May 2010.
The car is influenced by the M235i Racing in its styling because it is in the genes of the compact BMW from the 2002 Turbo to the E30 M3. Its definition also makes it stand out from the M4.
The M2 will launch in 2015. And be on the market early 2016.

[Steven1077]

Originally Posted by fuddman

How about this one:

How about it? You can't even see the rear properly, the render is nothing like as wide as the M2 will be

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by Cope

I'd say you're over estimating the fender flares of the M2, just look at these comparison photos between 1M spy shots and M2 spy shots:

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...98&postcount=1

The flares on bmw 2 doors have gotten a lot more subtle, just look at the new M3/4, it's the M3 that has the flares...

That's because the 4er has a wider track than the 3er so with the M hardware the rear arches are slightly broader because the standard car already has a widened rear track.
The 3er is not as wide as the 4er so to accommodate the M hardware they had to bulge out the wheel arches to accommodate. It was not for aesthetics but for purpose.

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

That's because the 4er has a wider track than the 3er so with the M hardware the rear arches are slightly broader because the standard car already has a widened rear track.
The 3er is not as wide as the 4er so to accommodate the M hardware they had to bulge out the wheel arches to accommodate. It was not for aesthetics but for purpose.

Just an added bonus that it looks sooooo damn sexy!

[allthatisntnow]

Well only 13 weeks until we get to see it. Not long now.

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

That's because the 4er has a wider track than the 3er so with the M hardware the rear arches are slightly broader because the standard car already has a widened rear track.
The 3er is not as wide as the 4er so to accommodate the M hardware they had to bulge out the wheel arches to accommodate. It was not for aesthetics but for purpose.

Interesting. It surely has an aesthetic value, even if not intended.