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07-25-2014, 09:33 AM | #1 |
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BMW M3 vs Alpina D3 diesel - fast saloon showdown by Autocar
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Agreed. Never liked his way of reviewing cars either.
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07-25-2014, 11:32 AM | #7 |
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Pretty fair review I'd say (not that I've driven a D3). But personally, as most of you have read, I LIKE the sound of the S55. And this is coming from an S65 owner.
Also, BMW need to bring a 335d or 535d Touring in the US. I'd get one of those and drive it till the wheels fall off.
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Odd review, really two different cars.
For what sutcliffe seemed to value, the alpina is good. To me, a heavyish calm and stoic automatic sedan that looks like a base model 335 is not something that would interest me I like the rawness and aggression of the m3. Sports car soul in a practical sedan body. To each their own though |
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07-25-2014, 02:08 PM | #13 |
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Perhaps the D3 really is that good. Had a hard time believing it brakes better and is faster through the course. But was he really complaining that the M3 was louder and more unrefined than a luxury Alpina?
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07-25-2014, 02:12 PM | #14 |
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The fact is this- out of all the reviews I've read and watched Sutcliffe is the only one who really does not like this car .
I believe someone at M division must have gone round to his house, shagged his wife and then eaten his dog the day before this car was launched......
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I don't think he's an M3 hater...just has different expectations for it.
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He does seem to have it out for the M3. I'm betting if he used launch control the acceleration test would have been a lot different and if he used MDM the track times would have been a lot different. I almost feel like he deliberately set the tests up to disadvantage the M3 and the tools it comes with.
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07-25-2014, 02:30 PM | #17 |
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Imagine if he put the old M3 up against the D3. Wonder how he would have reviewed it.
Something tells me he likes the "sounds" of the loud v8. I saw his 507 vs. M review earlier. |
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I also believe that straight line speed will be in favour of the M3 by a decent margin from a roll or dig with M3 using LC.
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Both beautiful cars but for different people. I never asked me if I wanted an Alpina instead of my F80.
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1. Why are they testing the Alpina on almost zero fuel? M3 has half a tank so 30 kg right there. 2. Launch control used on Alpina but not the M3- after he stated ' they just turned off DSC and mashed the gas' hmmmm 3. M3 set to Efficient engine response not Sport +......why is that? Could he have disadvantaged the M3 anymore to get the result he wanted? Very poor Sutcliffe.
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A couple of seconds later the M3 has clawed back that disadvantage and is travelling faster than the D3 but that poor start is hard to claw back in such a short race.......
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