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12-20-2005, 10:55 AM | #45 | |
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That isn't true, sorry -- http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/tip.htm
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12-20-2005, 11:28 AM | #46 |
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Honestly, that's really how it *should* work. The tip should be reserved for exceptional service, not accepted as part of subsidizing the restaurant paying crap wages to their employees. .... same with the damn 'all 5's' on the customer survey.
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12-20-2005, 12:05 PM | #47 | |
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I guess I should've said "Legend has it..." Seriously, that IS the popular belief among the service industry. I wonder how it became so widespread if false. Now don't tell me I am wrong about Fornication Under Consent of the King! |
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12-20-2005, 12:05 PM | #48 |
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I just gave my X5 to service and requested a 5 series as a loaner. The service employee was happy to help me out and my brother gave him few free movie tickets. I thought it was a nice gesture since it's holidays and all...
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12-20-2005, 12:08 PM | #49 | |
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sorry, http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.htm
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12-20-2005, 01:44 PM | #50 |
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In my university days I worked in hospitality. First as a waiter and then as a bartender. Where I worked we had quite a few regulars. Some tipped, and some didn't. Like it or not, those that tipped always got better/quicker service from myself and the other people I worked with. I was never rude or anything, but say two people came up to the bar at the same time, one tips and one doesn't, I of course would always serve the person who tips first. We would even point out to the new staff who tipped (as well as what they liked etc) and who didn't.
Now, of course I don't condone tipping when service is horrible (and if I don't tip, I will always endeavour to explain why). But if you've had a decent time, then why no show your appreciation? In a sense, tipping is like recognition. Here's a few bucks to say thanks. Is it really going to break the bank? Also, I cringe when I hear someone getting obnoxiously pissed off with a waiter/waitress etc. There was this one place where this yuppie punk was verbally laying into a waitress for some stupid reason at the table next to me (I can't remember what it was, only that it was incredibly stupid) and so I put him in his place quick smart. He was feeling pretty sheepish when I was done with him. On the flip side, the waitress was basically falling over herself making sure we had everything we wanted. Lambasting someone because of bad service is not going to help things. It's going to do the opposite. They're not going to think "Oh, that guy is pissed off so I should do a better job". They're going to think "Jerk! Who the hell does he think he is?!". There are ways of dealing with people, and unfortunately, some people just don't know how. Bar them throwing food at you or something along those lines, there should be no reason to yell at someone or abuse them. Would they come into your office and yell at you? No. So why are you going to theirs and yelling at them? If your food is a little cold, kindly point it out and ask for it to be heated up. If you're given the wrong thing, nicely point it out or better yet (and I sometimes do this) mention that it's not what you ordered but it looks good and you'll have it anyway. If service is a little slow, make a joke out it. Chances are, it's probably pretty busy and they're being asked a million things at once. A little joke will relax the person who is serving you and you will be treated much better than everyone else. Basically, if you act like an a**hole, you will be treated like one! One last thing. I took this cue from an uncle of mine. Whenever I go out with someone important (business wise, or even dates with the wife), I find out who will be looking after us. Then I approach him or her, hand over a certain amount of money (here I give anywhere between €10 and €50 depending on the location, the importance, and how much I plan on spending) and ask him or her to really look after us for the evening. I also mention that there will be more at the end and how much depends on the service. When I've done that, I have never ever received bad service. Whoever I'm with (except the wife, because she knows now) always comments on the excellent service. I just smile. Sorry for the long post, but this thread brought back a lot of memories.
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12-20-2005, 01:48 PM | #51 | |
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12-20-2005, 03:49 PM | #52 | |
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12-20-2005, 03:58 PM | #53 | |
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12-20-2005, 04:31 PM | #54 | |
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that is so cheap not to tip, doesn't your girlfriend get sick when she sees that, or does she put down some money of her own when your not looking? A lot of restaurants take a certain percentage of a server's tips at the end of the night based on the percentage of food they've sold to pay out the bus boys, dishwashers, and cooks, so if they average at 10% and the restaurant takes 6% for the various staff that server is actually only making 4% which = Sh*t. I dunno i guess if you've never worked in the service industry you can't appreciate the hard work they do.
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12-20-2005, 04:42 PM | #55 | |
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My question was indirectly asking "how high on the corporate ladder is a service advisor??" From then I could figure out if a tip was needed or not. Thanks all for clearing this out ... So, to answer your question, it would be on the insulting side to tip the BMW service advisor in Egypt. But I never got the chance to visit BMW in cairo, so I wouldn't have known. (chaufer usually takes the 7'er for maintenance ) As a matter of fact, the apt maintenance dude just left my apt (plumbing issue) a few minutes ago...there was another battle in my head "tip or no tip"...I ended up offering him juice |
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12-20-2005, 04:48 PM | #56 | |
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Just kidding. I ALWAYS tip, good or bad service, for that very reason. If you do hit the same number often, the waitresses will eventually recognize you, and you wouldn't want your food messed with. And for the record, I have gone out with a waitress once :rocks: It turned out to be a disaster, but that's another story. |
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12-20-2005, 06:36 PM | #57 | |
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12-20-2005, 07:05 PM | #58 | |
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Now as I said in my last post, in no way should bad service be tipped. That's a given and I think everyone will basically agree. But then I had another thought. It's not our place to tell anyone to tip, whether here on the forum or 'in the real world'. If you don't want to tip then by all means don't (especially if you go to a place regularily). If you're happy with getting mediocre service, if you like being seen to last, if you like seeing people order their food after you yet somehow getting it before you, if you like getting short-changed on your drinks, then of course no tip is ever necessary. Personally, I like good service and if I have to pay a little extra (or a lot extra for out-of-this-world service) I'm willing to do so. If I want to be treated like cattle, I'll go to McDonald's.
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12-20-2005, 07:27 PM | #60 | |
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And if you read my previous post (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=50 ), you will see that on some occasions, I tip twice. Once at the beginning, and again at the end.
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