Texas dad fatally shoots teenage boy found in daughter's room

[Benedict1957]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-dad...hters-bedroom/

HARRIS COUNTY, Texas - A Houston-area father fatally shot a teenage boy he found in his daughter's bedroom early Thursday, deputies said, according to CBS affiliate KHOU.

Detectives say the man's 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into her family's home in Spring, Texas, and sneaked him into her bedroom, but when her father walked in and questioned who the boy was, she said she didn't know.

An argument reportedly ensued between the boy and the father.

The father told police he opened fire on the teen after the teen dropped his hands as if to grab something. He died at the scene.

No other injuries were reported, but the father was transported to the hospital after he complained he wasn't feeling well. Authorities said the man appeared to be on several medications, KHOU reported.

The names of those involved in the incident were not immediately available.

Authorities say no charges have been filed, but the investigation is ongoing.

[Whostheboss]

typical day in da hood

[san~man]

Sounds like the daughter needs a good ass kicking

[deadmn1337]

only in Texas....

[Vic311]

Originally Posted by Whostheboss

typical day in Merica

Fixed that.

[MediaArtist]

Murder. Put this guy away for a long time.

[Vanmarsenille]

Originally Posted by san~man

Sounds like the daughter needs a good ass kicking

This.

[Ehwnnc]

If you walked in on your daughter and some random guy in the bed with her and she says she doesnt know him um yeah think i would do the same

[F1Venom]

Originally Posted by Ehwnnc

If you walked in on your daughter and some random guy in the bed with her and she says she doesnt know him um yeah think i would do the same

I agree. I wouldn't have shot him though unless he was aggressive or posing a threat.

[BOOST3D]

Would have done the same thing

[NemesisX]

Detectives say the man's 16-year-old daughter let the 17-year-old boy into her family's home in Spring, Texas, and sneaked him into her bedroom, but when her father walked in and questioned who the boy was, she said she didn't know.

The daughter is just as much at fault.

[Digital.James]

Originally Posted by Ehwnnc

If you walked in on your daughter and some random guy in the bed with her and she says she doesnt know him um yeah think i would do the same

it was a kid... i would've just slapped the crap out of him.

[BenchRacerYo]

Poor dad. The daughter basically killed the guy. The dad did what any dad would do.

[NemesisX]

I mean, the U.S. takes false rape accusations very seriously.

What the daughter did in this case is essentially a "false intruder" accusation. She tacitly called the boy an intruder when she told her dad that she didn't know who he was.

[MediaArtist]

I'm tired of these neo-con psychos claiming that anyone would have just blown the kid away. All articles of this story have implied that the father had the kid at gun point and was engaging in an argument. At this point, unless this unarmed, half naked kid charges at him and he feels his life in danger, he cannot simply blow him away even in gun crazy Texas.

Texas Penal Code §9.31 (governing the justified use of non-deadly force) and§9.32 (governing the justified use of deadly force) Inside your "castle," under certain circumstances, Texas law presumes you acted reasonably and justifiably if you use force or deadly force to defend yourself against an intruder who enters your occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment.

Castle Doctrine does NOT give you carte blanche to use deadly force merely because someone is on your property. It never has. Many people think that the law allows you to use deadly force against a mere trespasser. In fact, Texas law says the exact opposite. Texas Penal Code §9.41 allows you to use force, not deadly force, that is reasonably necessary to prevent or terminate another's trespass on your land.

So if a scared kid, whom you have a weapon trained on, and whom you suspect of recently sexing up your daughter in your house, is standing in your daughter's room, it's up to you to ask him to leave, call his parents, call the police, etc to get him out of there. Once you have your weapon trained, unless the kid charges with intent to harm or kill, you are no longer protected by castle doctrine in the use of deadly force.

Gun owners have a responsibility to know and learn the laws that govern the use of deadly force. It's because of neo-con, violent idiots, who think shooting anything that moves dead, that liberal gun control laws get passed in this country, and why the 2nd amendment is constantly under attack by liberal idiots like the Feinsteins and Piers Morgans of the world. Stop being a violent caveman, and realize that gun ownership is a right that the forefathers granted to us as a responsibility, the responsibility to bear arms so we could defend ourselves in the case of a government that has gone tyrannical, such was the case before and during the war for Independence. Treat gun ownership with some respect, not like a child who has a new toy.

The excuse that "he reached for something on the ground" sounds highly suspicious to me. This isn't an open and shut case by any means, and this guy is going to probably have charges pressed against him once the dust settles. Everything about this screams "angry father exacting revenge for kid fucking his daughter".

[Joekerr]

It will be interesting to see where this goes. Charges may still be laid, I mean Zimmerman wasn't charged right away either.

I don't know...yeah the father pulled the trigger and ultimately his responsibility because he was in control, but the daughter also lied which played a part in his actions.

That is, of course, if any of the story reported by the media is true. Which is always something to question...who knows what really went down that night except the daughter and the dad.

[kevinbahnz]

the girl could be going along with the fathers story that she didnt know the boy to get her dad off the hook. but that can easily be proven just by talking to her friends if she really knew him or not.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

I'm tired of these neo-con psychos claiming that anyone would have just blown the kid away. All articles of this story have implied that the father had the kid at gun point and was engaging in an argument. At this point, unless this unarmed, half naked kid charges at him and he feels his life in danger, he cannot simply blow him away even in gun crazy Texas.

Texas Penal Code §9.31 (governing the justified use of non-deadly force) and§9.32 (governing the justified use of deadly force) Inside your "castle," under certain circumstances, Texas law presumes you acted reasonably and justifiably if you use force or deadly force to defend yourself against an intruder who enters your occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment.

Castle Doctrine does NOT give you carte blanche to use deadly force merely because someone is on your property. It never has. Many people think that the law allows you to use deadly force against a mere trespasser. In fact, Texas law says the exact opposite. Texas Penal Code §9.41 allows you to use force, not deadly force, that is reasonably necessary to prevent or terminate another's trespass on your land.

So if a scared kid, whom you have a weapon trained on, and whom you suspect of recently sexing up your daughter in your house, is standing in your daughter's room, it's up to you to ask him to leave, call his parents, call the police, etc to get him out of there. Once you have your weapon trained, unless the kid charges with intent to harm or kill, you are no longer protected by castle doctrine in the use of deadly force.

Gun owners have a responsibility to know and learn the laws that govern the use of deadly force. It's because of neo-con, violent idiots, who think shooting anything that moves dead, that liberal gun control laws get passed in this country, and why the 2nd amendment is constantly under attack by liberal idiots like the Feinsteins and Piers Morgans of the world. Stop being a violent caveman, and realize that gun ownership is a right that the forefathers granted to us as a responsibility, the responsibility to bear arms so we could defend ourselves in the case of a government that has gone tyrannical, such was the case before and during the war for Independence. Treat gun ownership with some respect, not like a child who has a new toy.

The excuse that "he reached for something on the ground" sounds highly suspicious to me. This isn't an open and shut case by any means, and this guy is going to probably have charges pressed against him once the dust settles. Everything about this screams "angry father exacting revenge for kid fucking his daughter".

I agree with many of your points.

My thing is, we don't know what happened. We don't know how well the daughter sold the story that she didn't know the guy. We don't know if the kid was 6'4" 220 pounds. But what gets me is that if your scenario is the one that went down, and he's just a scared kid. Any sudden movement by a half naked, scared guy would be interrupted by myself as a violent threat. I know if i were the kid and a man who was the father of the girl i just boned was pointing a gun at me telling me not to move. I wouldn't move.

But again we don't know what happened. You could be right and this could very well be a case of angry father killing a man that just raped his daughter. Or even more deprived, an angry man killing a kid who just fucked his willing and wanting daughter.

Either way, the daughter saying she didn't know the guy would have stirred up my hornets nest for sure. First thing i would have thought was this guy was raping my little girl. For some people this event would send them into fight mode very quickly. Tunnel vision, lack of judgement etc... We'll never know what really went down though.

[Benstuck]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

The daughter is just as much at fault.

+1 since she let the boy into her room but doesn't know who he is? HO ALERT!

[Vic311]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

I'm tired of these neo-con psychos claiming that anyone would have just blown the kid away. All articles of this story have implied that the father had the kid at gun point and was engaging in an argument. At this point, unless this unarmed, half naked kid charges at him and he feels his life in danger, he cannot simply blow him away even in gun crazy Texas.

Texas Penal Code §9.31 (governing the justified use of non-deadly force) and§9.32 (governing the justified use of deadly force) Inside your "castle," under certain circumstances, Texas law presumes you acted reasonably and justifiably if you use force or deadly force to defend yourself against an intruder who enters your occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment.

Castle Doctrine does NOT give you carte blanche to use deadly force merely because someone is on your property. It never has. Many people think that the law allows you to use deadly force against a mere trespasser. In fact, Texas law says the exact opposite. Texas Penal Code §9.41 allows you to use force, not deadly force, that is reasonably necessary to prevent or terminate another's trespass on your land.

So if a scared kid, whom you have a weapon trained on, and whom you suspect of recently sexing up your daughter in your house, is standing in your daughter's room, it's up to you to ask him to leave, call his parents, call the police, etc to get him out of there. Once you have your weapon trained, unless the kid charges with intent to harm or kill, you are no longer protected by castle doctrine in the use of deadly force.

Gun owners have a responsibility to know and learn the laws that govern the use of deadly force. It's because of neo-con, violent idiots, who think shooting anything that moves dead, that liberal gun control laws get passed in this country, and why the 2nd amendment is constantly under attack by liberal idiots like the Feinsteins and Piers Morgans of the world. Stop being a violent caveman, and realize that gun ownership is a right that the forefathers granted to us as a responsibility, the responsibility to bear arms so we could defend ourselves in the case of a government that has gone tyrannical, such was the case before and during the war for Independence. Treat gun ownership with some respect, not like a child who has a new toy.

The excuse that "he reached for something on the ground" sounds highly suspicious to me. This isn't an open and shut case by any means, and this guy is going to probably have charges pressed against him once the dust settles. Everything about this screams "angry father exacting revenge for kid fucking his daughter".

+1

[schoy]

Assuming the story is true (and we have no other conflicting account at this time):

Why the boy engaged in an argument with the dad, in the dad's house and probably knowing that the dad was armed -- instead of backing slowly out of the house -- is beyond me. Not saying that the dad isn't culpable, but c'mon, man ...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[schoy]

Also (again assuming the story is true):

There were only 2 witnesses here: the dad and the daughter. They had presumably a common interest to protect the family; they could have easily concocted a story that would have absolved the dad of all blame (boy breaks into house to be with daughter; daughter had no idea boy would try that; dad catches boy in act, thinking it is intruder; dad shoots boy). But the story that does come out points two one of 2 things (or perhaps both):

1) Dad and daughter aren't the sharpest tools in the shed;

2) Dad and daughter had a falling out, probably over the boy.