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      10-30-2009, 05:54 PM   #1
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Results: CTS-V challenge

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...ults-announced

Last month, during a discussion with journalists about General Motors’ new “May the Best Car Win” marketing campaign, Bob Lutz laid down the challenge to any journalist to a duel with the Cadillac CTS-V to see if any comparable car could topple the Caddy.

Well, the event took place today at the Monticello Motor Club in Monticello, N.Y. and we now have the results. Taking top honors was former GM Performance Division Executive John Heinricy with a lap time of 2m and 46.56s in the Cadillac CTS-V.

1. Cadillac CTS-V (John Heinricy): 2:46:560
2. Cadillac CTS-V (Brian Redman): 2:49:183
3. Cadillac CTS-V (Aaron Link): 2:48:902
4. BMW M3 (Michael Cooper): 2.50:424
5. Cadillac CTS-V (Jack Baruth): 2:51:153
6. Cadillac CTS-V (Lawrence Ulrich): 2:53:026
7. Cadillac CTS-V (Bob Lutz): 2:56:321
8. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X (Wes Siler): 3:08.126
9. BMW M5 (Michael Mainwald): 3:08:989
10. Cadillac CTS-V (Chris Fairman.): 3:14:292
11. Audi RS4 (Tom Loder): 3:15:702
12. Jaguar XF (Archan Basu): 3:16.670

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edit: it's all marketing in case you can't figure it out, so take with a grain of salt
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      10-30-2009, 06:05 PM   #2
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Really cool. CTS-V is a beast.
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      10-30-2009, 06:08 PM   #3
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Really cool. CTS-V is a beast.
I didn't read it, but it really depends on who prepped all the cars. If it was GM, then there's a reason to take it with a grain of salt. However I don't think many will be surprised by the outcome.

Edit: You edited your post.
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      10-30-2009, 06:45 PM   #5
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      10-30-2009, 07:21 PM   #6
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It's only a repost if you are here from E90post.

You mean there's other forums here?

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It's only a repost if you are here from E90post.
Actually, I was referencing to this when I tried to start the repost train( which failed horribly).......

http://e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311781

Which is in the universal forums.
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      10-31-2009, 12:57 PM   #8
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I wonder what kind of times the CTSV drivers would have done in the M3 if they weren't on GM's payroll...
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Also they didnt let us the drviers try the CTS-V around the track. The fastest drivers were all GM pros not the people invited for the challenge.
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      11-03-2009, 01:46 PM   #10
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The CTS-V is just a better car.
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There is some mis-information in this post. For the people here that haven't read the other threads; of the original competition participants the M3 won. Those top 3 CTS-V times were done by the pros GM brought along. The gentleman that posted the M3 times was just an owner. With not a whole lot of track time, and pretty much zero previous track time on the Monticello track. (Though he did watch movies on it to learn it some.)

All those that will defend the CTS-V til death, don't read more into this post than is here. While the CTS-V may be and probably is faster, those top 3 times should not be counted as the final outcome. That bit was GM's control drivers for publicity purposes.

True competition standings are:
1. BMW M3 (Michael Cooper): 2.50:424
2. Cadillac CTS-V (Jack Baruth): 2:51:153
3. Cadillac CTS-V (Lawrence Ulrich): 2:53:026
4. Cadillac CTS-V (Bob Lutz): 2:56:321
5. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X (Wes Siler): 3:08.126
6. BMW M5 (Michael Mainwald): 3:08:989
7. Cadillac CTS-V (Chris Fairman.): 3:14:292
8. Audi RS4 (Tom Loder): 3:15:702
9. Jaguar XF (Archan Basu): 3:16.670
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There is some mis-information in this post. For the people here that haven't read the other threads; of the original competition participants the M3 won. Those top 3 CTS-V times were done by the pros GM brought along. The gentleman that posted the M3 times was just an owner. With not a whole lot of track time, and pretty much zero previous track time on the Monticello track. (Though he did watch movies on it to learn it some.)

All those that will defend the CTS-V til death, don't read more into this post than is here. While the CTS-V may be and probably is faster, those top 3 times should not be counted as the final outcome. That bit was GM's control drivers for publicity purposes.
But hasnt the CTS-V posted faster times with pro drivers than the M3 has posted with pro drivers?
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All those that will defend the CTS-V til death, don't read more into this post than is here. While the CTS-V may be and probably is faster, those top 3 times should not be counted as the final outcome. That bit was GM's control drivers for publicity purposes.
I was simply commenting on the actual results of the event.
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Put Bill Auberlen behind the wheel of the M3 and I guarantee he would beat Heinricy's time.
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