Increase in utility costs

[TiMSport]

I'm willing to bet cmyx6go didn't envision discussions about Putin and Ukraine when she posted this thread.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

I'm willing to bet cmyx6go didn't envision discussions about Putin and Ukraine when she posted this thread.

Actually surprised no one mentioned it earlier.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

I'm willing to bet cmyx6go didn't envision discussions about Putin and Ukraine when she posted this thread.

Of course I did. I mentioned the rabbit hole somewhere. I’ll hold my tongue on why we’re experiencing these cost increases because we’ll get shut down. Just curious about what others around the country or world are experiencing. Again, most of us are very fortunate and it is an annoyance. We will pay more but it won’t affect our lifestyle. I truly feel for those less fortunate.

The cost of everything is through the roof. I know we have all seen the threads on costs of used cars, new cars. I have a trucking company. We sell off used trailers (think tractor trailers) after X years to rotate out old for new. They usually sell for a few thousand dollars at 10 or 15 years old. I’m in the process of selling a bunch for over $20k each. Mind boggling. A new trailer these days goes for $60k! That’s double what is was not long ago. So at least the sale of the old somewhat reduces the cost of the new on the books.

[M-technik-3]

No Energy had been on the rise before the Ukraine standoff. At the Moment US is sending every free LNG tanker to EU to offset Russia dealing with NordStream. They made a poor choice to buy fuel for a country that is not an ally.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Of course I did. I mentioned the rabbit hole somewhere. I’ll hold my tongue on why we’re experiencing these cost increases because we’ll get shut down. Just curious about what others around the country or world are experiencing. Again, most of us are very fortunate and it is an annoyance. We will pay more but it won’t affect our lifestyle. I truly feel for those less fortunate.

The cost of everything is through the roof. I know we have all seen the threads on costs of used cars, new cars. I have a trucking company. We sell off used trailers (think tractor trailers) after X years to rotate out old for new. They usually sell for a few thousand dollars at 10 or 15 years old. I’m in the process of selling a bunch for over $20k each. Mind boggling. A new trailer these days goes for $60k! That’s double what is was not long ago. So at least the sale of the old somewhat reduces the cost of the new on the books.

Yes, that's what I mean. I think most of us know it's a bit sensitive around here to even hint of politics so there's that....

As for the trailer market, holy shit. That's crazy!

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by M-technik-3

No Energy had been on the rise before the Ukraine standoff. At the Moment US is sending every free LNG tanker to EU to offset Russia dealing with NordStream. They made a poor choice to buy fuel for a country that is not an ally.

Yes they have been rising for a while, but my point was it could get a whole lot more expensive in a hurry.

[M-technik-3]

Oh no doubt, Happened to see the pump prices jumped 15 cents yesterday after oil hit 96 and change yesterday.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

They usually sell for a few thousand dollars at 10 or 15 years old. I’m in the process of selling a bunch for over $20k each. Mind boggling.

Wish I knew about this about $18K ago! Of course, there's no way that I could ever get a 53' trailer down our dead end street and into my driveway. Heck, I can *barely* drag my 24' enclosed race car hauler out without having to do a few K-turns between a bedrock outcropping and the trees.....

[Chick Webb]

Just looked at my PG&E Bills from last and this January. I think we all know why gas prices are so high right now.

[premier3is]

Originally Posted by Chick Webb

Just looked at my PG&E Bills from last and this January. I think we all know why gas prices are so high right now.

My bill starting January was 0.39c across the board for off and during peak.

Previous was 0.31 and year before that was like 0.20s. Absolutely ridiculous. Our provider is SDG&E.

[Buug959]

Electric bills explained in one easy to read example:

[TiMSport]

^^^
It's missing the "No One Pays Attention to Details fee": $35

[cmyx6go]

Holy shit. I just drove past a local BP station. $5.17/gallon for premium (credit). I remember premium hovering around the $5 mark once but don’t think I’ve ever seen it this high.

[2000cs]

29 days billed to Feb 17, FPL:
Rate (base plus fuel): $0.108/kWh
Usage: 789 kWh
Energy (variable): $85.68
Fixed charges and taxes: $23.42
Total bill: $109.10

I bought gas earlier this week for $4.19/gal Shell Premium. It is cheaper elsewhere.

[2000cs]

The gasbuddy.com heat map for gasoline prices is interesting. https://www.gasbuddy.com/gaspricemap...-96.591588&z=4

Pretty clear that prices are lowest near production/refining locations, and CA sticks its drivers with high taxes.

[dreamingat30fps]

Well….

FPL has definitely increased rates. Our “winter” bill is looking like our summer bill. Typically in the summer we are in the mid to high $200s and in winter i’s usually like around $150. Our last FL bill was over $200. No extra usage that I can think of.

In NC I haven’t noticed much of a change but haven’t been here long enough to really tell. However we use propane in NC for stove, hotwater, furnace etc. I have been putting off getting it filled mainly because their site says to order when you are at around 20%. So I got to 20% and ordered… not considering the actual price of propane. Ended up with a $700 bill.

Gas is also crazy. I think last I paid was like $4.20ish for premium. Regular is like $3.80s-$4. Not looking forward to when I have to fill the truck up with diesel. Luckily I don’t really drive it around.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Well….

FPL has definitely increased rates. Our “winter” bill is looking like our summer bill. Typically in the summer we are in the mid to high $200s and in winter i’s usually like around $150. Our last FL bill was over $200. No extra usage that I can think of.

In NC I haven’t noticed much of a change but haven’t been here long enough to really tell. However we use propane in NC for stove, hotwater, furnace etc. I have been putting off getting it filled mainly because their site says to order when you are at around 20%. So I got to 20% and ordered… not considering the actual price of propane. Ended up with a $700 bill.

Gas is also crazy. I think last I paid was like $4.20ish for premium. Regular is like $3.80s-$4. Not looking forward to when I have to fill the truck up with diesel. Luckily I don’t really drive it around.

FPL got a base rate increase approved last year, which became effective this year. There will inevitably be even more increase for fuel costs as energy prices increase.

I paid $4.09 for premium to fill up my wife’s SUV yesterday. Then I stopped by Costco to pick up a few things and saw lines through the parking lot for Costco gas. I swear it looked worse than during a hurricane. How much cheaper is it to make it worth sitting through that?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Holy shit. I just drove past a local BP station. $5.17/gallon for premium (credit). I remember premium hovering around the $5 mark once but don’t think I’ve ever seen it this high.

The only time that I ever saw gas over $5.00/gallon was passing by Indianapolis...on 9/11/2001. Needless to say, I kept on stepping down the highway rather than pay those panic/gouging prices.....

[zx10guy]

I just got my last month's propane bill for my vacation home. I think I may have been at the house once during that period for a day or two. I ran the heat at 73/74 degrees when I was there. Otherwise, the house temp is set at 56 degrees. My bill was still $207. And this house was built under Energy Star specs to include low E windows, all penetration areas into the home is spray foamed, and high efficiency HVAC system. The house was also blower door tested and had to meet a minimum before the house could be delivered to me under the Energy Star requirements.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

I just got my last month's propane bill for my vacation home. I think I may have been at the house once during that period for a day or two. I ran the heat at 73/74 degrees when I was there. Otherwise, the house temp is set at 56 degrees. My bill was still $207. And this house was built under Energy Star specs to include low E windows, all penetration areas into the home is spray foamed, and high efficiency HVAC system. The house was also blower door tested and had to meet a minimum before the house could be delivered to me under the Energy Star requirements.

Damn that's crazy! We have a 350 gallon tank so $700 was to take it from like 20% to around 80%. However when we bought it in June of last year it was I believe at like 40-50% so in like 8 months we only used around 20%.

That being said we were not here for Jan and a lot of Feb when temp were the coldest. I don't think the furnace rarely turns on. Mostly it's just the heat pump.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Holy shit. I just drove past a local BP station. $5.17/gallon for premium (credit). I remember premium hovering around the $5 mark once but don’t think I’ve ever seen it this high.

Filled up my M235i today at $5.69 per gallon for premium - highe$t ever. At least my M235i gets fairly decent MPG on the highway.

[TiMSport]

Originally Posted by 3.0L

Filled up my M235i today at $5.69 per gallon for premium - highe$t ever. At least my M235i gets fairly decent MPG on the highway.

That's probably considered a good price over there in Cali. I've seen places that have surpassed 7 freakin' Dollars a gallon!