IS350 - competition for the E90??? (review)

ward · 07-21-2005, 10:56 PM

I hope it doesn't sell as well as the old lexus, that one almost put BMW out of business LOL

Hunter399 · 07-21-2005, 11:05 PM

Do i see an Acura tail????
EW!!!

E90Newbie · 07-21-2005, 11:52 PM

The exterior is uglier than doo-doo but that interior is SWEET!

visor · 07-29-2005, 12:54 AM

The full review is posted on Edmunds today:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=64968

e90 owners, no need to fret. Looks like Lexus has missed the mark set by the 3 series, again...

NaTuReB0Y · 07-29-2005, 01:08 AM

This is the car that I sacraficed to get the E90. Aaaarrrrgghhhh! So far....I love my 330i! The only reason why I got the E90 over the IS350 is because I couldn't wait til' October!

AznBeemer23 · 07-29-2005, 01:39 AM

Maybe i'll have to sell my E90 after I'm done building it for SEMA SHOW in Vegas in November...

F32Fleet · 07-29-2005, 08:36 AM

If the IS350 came in a manual and allowed you to turn off the Nanny then BMW would be in trouble.

stressdoc · 07-29-2005, 09:44 AM

Give us the 335i ! Or at least a ZHP with the upgraded N52 and a zippier final drive ratio that can match the acceleration of the IS350 and close the gap with the Audi S4.

F32Fleet · 07-29-2005, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Give us the 335i ! Or at least a ZHP with the upgraded N52 and a zippier final drive ratio that can match the acceleration of the IS350 and close the gap with the Audi S4.

Patience young padawan!

RichReg · 07-29-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Give us the 335i ! Or at least a ZHP with the upgraded N52 and a zippier final drive ratio that can match the acceleration of the IS350 and close the gap with the Audi S4.

Yeah patience, AND preparation.....
for the big fat-assed premium that BMW is going to slap on any kind of car even remotely close to the supposed "335".

res_ipsa · 07-29-2005, 01:33 PM

Looks like IS falls short again of really competing with the 3 series. Why would anyone wanna pick a car described as "uninspiring" over the inspiring e90

review (posted by visor)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=64968

Frank_NJ · 07-29-2005, 01:43 PM

I have said this time and time again that there is no other car that can compare to a BMW in terms of "feeling connected" with the road. I have driven everything out there and currently have a C32 AMG Benz that is gone in a couple of days when I pick up my 330i. The handling of the BMW just can not be matched in any other car. With the BMW you can predict what will happen where as these other cars leave you hanging. It is a matter of choice as one person might like something better than the next person. I am fair and will always take people to look at the different cars out there and test drive them and then leave the BMW to last to drive. After the test drive they understand what I mean about "feeling connected with the road" in the handling and ride of the BMW and you can not find that in anything else.

ward · 07-29-2005, 02:54 PM

SWEET you can't turn off the traction control

sure wouldn't like to be able to autocross, have fun, outcorner an SUV

it's time someone finally told me how fast I could go around corners

jiggax23 · 07-29-2005, 05:59 PM

throughout the former parts of the article the writer just compares it to a bmw and tells how it doesnt stack up, even if the numbers look better. lexus' claimed 5.6 sec 0-60 time could not be achieved by the drivers at edmunds, they couldnt even get anything under 6... well, u can read for urself, but all i can say is... glad i didnt hold out for one

YYdoodle · 07-29-2005, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznBeemer23

Maybe i'll have to sell my E90 after I'm done building it for SEMA SHOW in Vegas in November...

Why would you sell a superior car for an inferior one

Well unless your willing to trade in "performance+luxury" for just a little bit more of interior "luxury"

cliverman · 08-26-2005, 06:57 AM

At first glance I thought it was a Mazda, but now I think you're right it's a "Hun-day"

cliverman · 08-26-2005, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank_NJ

I have said this time and time again that there is no other car that can compare to a BMW in terms of "feeling connected" with the road. I have driven everything out there and currently have a C32 AMG Benz that is gone in a couple of days when I pick up my 330i. The handling of the BMW just can not be matched in any other car. With the BMW you can predict what will happen where as these other cars leave you hanging. It is a matter of choice as one person might like something better than the next person. I am fair and will always take people to look at the different cars out there and test drive them and then leave the BMW to last to drive. After the test drive they understand what I mean about "feeling connected with the road" in the handling and ride of the BMW and you can not find that in anything else.

Frank....why the downgrade?

Stefan358 · 08-26-2005, 07:33 AM

its funny to read that in the US the lexus is named in one sentence with bmw. dont get me wrong i do believe that this is a real good car. maybe in term of realibility or what you get from your money etc. better. i don't know.

but for me and a lot of other people in europe you are comparing aples with ..whatever......BMW does have a complete different focus...that some do not like. bmw likes ro be the leader in future design/looks/technice what ever and as we all know 'freude am fahren'....if someone is looking in a car with these specs how can the lexus be in the same line ? i do not get that. for me again and a lot of peolple from europe the lexus is nothing more than a toyota plus. a good car...but nothing that makes you cry to get into your car in the middle of the night and driving 50miles for nothing :-)

if you can afford drive bmw..if not get another car. i have to say....it was a bit stereotyping..there are of course people buying these cars because they really like them but compared to the us this is a complete different picture. for me a lexus could never be a choice. ok...yes...when iam 60.

Jeffelite · 08-26-2005, 08:27 AM

For me, Lexus is about Luxury and Reliability. BMW is about performance and handling which Lexus will never be able to touch. How could you possibly buy the IS350 after driving a 330i. Mind boggling

F32Fleet · 08-26-2005, 09:44 AM

add to my previous post. Since the overwhelming majority of the 3-ers sold in the US are Steptronic, the IS350 will give BMW a run for the money. Probably not so much in Europe, but what do I know.

08-26-2005, 12:14 PM

Good car! Lexus is beter in many parts. I thinck the best way to now whu's beter - wath the time of lap on zacksenring. I shoor the bmw's chasis is the best. Whithout quasthions.

I miss my 325xi · 08-26-2005, 12:21 PM

Hey Lexus, you can keep your toyota: far far away from me.

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F32Fleet Lieutenant General 3575 Rep 10,355 Posts Drives: 2015 435i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0)	If the IS350 came in a manual and allowed you to turn off the Nanny then BMW would be in trouble.
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Give us the 335i ! Or at least a ZHP with the upgraded N52 and a zippier final drive ratio that can match the acceleration of the IS350 and close the gap with the Audi S4.
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res_ipsa Second Lieutenant 14 Rep 210 Posts Drives: 325i SparkGraphite Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Looks like IS falls short again of really competing with the 3 series. Why would anyone wanna pick a car described as "uninspiring" over the inspiring e90 review (posted by visor) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...7/pageId=64968
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ward Major General 155 Rep 6,158 Posts Drives: F Join Date: May 2005 Location: T iTrader: (0)	SWEET you can't turn off the traction control sure wouldn't like to be able to autocross, have fun, outcorner an SUV it's time someone finally told me how fast I could go around corners
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jiggax23 Private First Class 9 Rep 169 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: so. california iTrader: (0)	Edmunds IS350 Full Test throughout the former parts of the article the writer just compares it to a bmw and tells how it doesnt stack up, even if the numbers look better. lexus' claimed 5.6 sec 0-60 time could not be achieved by the drivers at edmunds, they couldnt even get anything under 6... well, u can read for urself, but all i can say is... glad i didnt hold out for one
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Stefan358 New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: e36 328i cabrio Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: germany bmw town iTrader: (0)	its funny to read that in the US the lexus is named in one sentence with bmw. dont get me wrong i do believe that this is a real good car. maybe in term of realibility or what you get from your money etc. better. i don't know. but for me and a lot of other people in europe you are comparing aples with ..whatever......BMW does have a complete different focus...that some do not like. bmw likes ro be the leader in future design/looks/technice what ever and as we all know 'freude am fahren'....if someone is looking in a car with these specs how can the lexus be in the same line ? i do not get that. for me again and a lot of peolple from europe the lexus is nothing more than a toyota plus. a good car...but nothing that makes you cry to get into your car in the middle of the night and driving 50miles for nothing :-) if you can afford drive bmw..if not get another car. i have to say....it was a bit stereotyping..there are of course people buying these cars because they really like them but compared to the us this is a complete different picture. for me a lexus could never be a choice. ok...yes...when iam 60.
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F32Fleet Lieutenant General 3575 Rep 10,355 Posts Drives: 2015 435i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0)	add to my previous post. Since the overwhelming majority of the 3-ers sold in the US are Steptronic, the IS350 will give BMW a run for the money. Probably not so much in Europe, but what do I know.
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