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      09-22-2023, 11:40 AM   #111
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Checo was 4th in 2020 while in a Racing Point. He's certainly being helped by the car he's in, but what winning driver isn't? He's a top 10 driver on the grid in the best car on the grid, and that puts him in second place this year...
You're likely the only person who isn't huffing paint - you're going to argue that Perez is better than Hamilton? We are talking about a guy who was a DNF away from winning a WDC in his rookie season - who won it all in season two of his career and has won 7 WDC in his career.
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After 3 DNFs? Oh, so poor of Ham to not get points when his car was retired. What happened the 2 years prior to that?
Take out Max's DNF due to Lewis during British GP...then what happens?
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We still talking about that last miniute rule change to allow Max to win the WDC?
After 2 DNF's? Oh, so poor of Max to not get points when he was taken out of the race.

See how that works...lol
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You mean when Ham sacrificed his season to run a testing setup for his car to be more competitive? That's why he's dusting Georgy boy now?
Sure...ok.

He got beat again by his teammate.
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Who leads in points?
The old man is now slower than his teammate. Just admit it.

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Take out Max's DNF due to Lewis during British GP...then what happens?

After 2 DNF's? Oh, so poor of Max to not get points when he was taken out to the race.

See how that works...lol

Sure...ok.

He got beat again by his teammate.

The old man is now slower than his teammate. Just admit it.
Which is why he's winning?
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Ya'll better pray that Hamilton never becomes competitive again, I would hate (love) to see the meltdowns and excuses if Max returns to being irrelevant.
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That's why Max didn't win anything until he had the rules changed for his win in 2021 and the fastest car 2022 and 2023. Kid was trash, always was and always will be.

None of the drivers take him seriously and most fans who aren't White Nationalist don't either.
Mate listen ...
I've seen guys get banned for less . This is *NOT about being black or white ...
LEW is black and MAX is white , what can be wrong with that ?
Sure . We can feel your pain . This is all about F1 races and F1 drivers and NOT trash !

Advice : Stop your humiliations . Please stop it now !
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      09-22-2023, 11:53 AM   #116
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Which is why he's winning?
Winning the 2023 slowest Merc driver award...yes.

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Ya'll better pray that Hamilton never becomes competitive again, I would hate (love) to see the meltdowns and excuses if Max returns to being irrelevant.
I think we can all admit, Norris is the best driver on the grid. Put him in a Merc or RB and let him cook.
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      09-22-2023, 11:56 AM   #117
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Ya'll better pray that Hamilton never becomes competitive again, I would hate (love) to see the meltdowns and excuses if Max returns to being irrelevant.
We don't have to pray for that .
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      09-22-2023, 12:21 PM   #118
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Mate listen ...
I've seen guys get banned for less . This is *NOT about being black or white ...
LEW is black and MAX is white , what can be wrong with that ?
Sure . We can feel your pain . This is all about F1 races and F1 drivers and NOT trash !

Advice : Stop your humiliations . Please stop it now !

[X] Doubt
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Marko literally made it about race, but ok.
But I can't say more because the mod is already watching.
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Yep, hammy is the man

14th in free practice 2
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Good move...
"FIA race director Niels Wittich has reintroduced the maximum time limit for all Formula 1 qualifying laps ahead of the Japanese Grand Prix."

https://racingnews365.com/fia-reintr...of-japanese-gp
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Ham won a race and podium with slower cars. You do know that Hamilton won with McLaren before he was with Mercedes, right? Do you remember how slow and average those car were?

Hamilton - the guy with 7 World Championships to his name - one DNF away from 9, the most winningest driver ever, is low on Skill. But Max, a guy who only won from a technicality and massive investment in personnel and rule changes in 2021 - and having the fastest car in 2022/23 - is actually "good" despite losing for 7 years STRAIGHT.
He has like 12 more wins than Sch, yet has dozens more races and counting, and about 40 less DNFs. That alone says all you need to know. Not to mentioned many more years in a competitive car.

Max is only through 8 seasons (and has only has a competitive car for 2 of the 8), and this being his 9th. Through 8 seasons, his stats are better than Hams (who had a competitive car for 5 of those 8). Both won 2 through this period but Max has more wins, more FLs, and more podiums. Through 9 seasons it's going to be a bit more lopsided to Max in wins/podiums/FL.
He has also set records Ham never had the skill to but had a car that should have done so with ease.

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      09-22-2023, 12:58 PM   #122
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FP3 will be in the middle of the night here not getting up for that but quali will be no problem starting at 7AM.
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He who spews nonsense that the likes of Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen don’t have skills and that’s all the car, obviously never stepped onto a track’s tarmac.

In Formula 1, they’re all very good drivers. Even Maldonado.

Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen are brutally excellent drivers.
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MAX makes tons of money , while he sleeps => https://www.verstappen.com/collectio...icial-teamline

When I find time , I will visit the MAX Verstappen shop and I'll buy some new gear.
RBR can retain the Constructors trophy this weekend if certain things fall into place and Horner flicked a bit of ink at Wolff with this quip.
https://racingnews365.com/horner-aim...erstappen-jibe
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He who spews nonsense that the likes of Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen don’t have skills and that’s all the car, obviously never stepped onto a track’s tarmac.

In Formula 1, they’re all very good drivers. Even Maldonado.

Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen are brutally excellent drivers.
Even this guy?
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He who spews nonsense that the likes of Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen don’t have skills and that’s all the car, obviously never stepped onto a track’s tarmac.

In Formula 1, they’re all very good drivers. Even Maldonado.

Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen are brutally excellent drivers.
Yeah some people have no idea how hard competitive racing is.

There are always some drivers that stand out from the rest.

You can have the best car on the grid, but if your skills aren't up to par, it won't save you.

Perez has the best car on the grid, and he's barely P2.

Out of 15 races this season, pèrez has finished P2 4 times.

Thats absolutely ridiculous considering he's in the best car on the grid.

That absolutely defeats the "it's the car" for Max.

You should be minimum P2 in that car every race at least.



Also AmuroRay, stop making everything about race, I under you love Hamilton and he hasn't won a race for almost 3 years, but it's not about race, it's about how when everyone was started over in 2022, Mercedes showed their true colors when they didn't have any advantage like they did when the hybrid era happened.

Last year Ferrari had the better car until the TD hit and RB ran away with the championship. Hell, the races were all close as well.
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Even this guy?
GOAT of F1.

Without Latifi, there would be no Max WDC.

If Hamilton fans wanna blame someone, blame the GOAT.
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i think Horner wasn't lying when he said Singapore performance was 100% tire operating window and nothing to do with the technical directive TD018 nerf.

also during the race Max was very quick on the Mediums.

now we know.
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GOAT of F1.

Without Latifi, there would be no Max WDC.

If Hamilton fans wanna blame someone, blame the GOAT.
They should be grateful Bernie Ecclestone & Max Mosley conspired to give 6ewis* the 2008 WDC

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2008831
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"FIA race director Niels Wittich has reintroduced the maximum time limit for all Formula 1 qualifying laps ahead of the Japanese Grand Prix."

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wouldn't it be easier to do a shoot out? one car at a time. it's not like there are 100 cars waiting to do their lap.
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You're likely the only person who isn't huffing paint - you're going to argue that Perez is better than Hamilton? We are talking about a guy who was a DNF away from winning a WDC in his rookie season - who won it all in season two of his career and has won 7 WDC in his career.
Definitely not what I said, no need to put words in my mouth. I'm not here to disparage Hamilton.

Keep in mind, in Hamilton's rookie season, he was 22. Verstappen was 17. There's a lot of growth and maturity happening in those 5 years. They both won their first world championship at about age 24.... Alonso and Vettel were 23/24 as well. Max has a long career left ahead of him.
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