I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT THE NEW JAGS ARE BETTER THAN BIMMERS Vol: JAGUAR XFR > M3

[Roowah]

I believe nothing this person says. If I wanted to irritate people, I could join a Lamborghini board and say that my Ferrari is better than their car. And I could write that I own 10 Ferrari's and shower the thread with all kinds of pictures and videos that I've copied from the internet. The reality is that it doesn't make it true, or worth my time doing.

I'm sorry you feel so lonely and insecure in your life that the only way people will pay you any attention is through this type of media discourse.

Dammit, and I swore I wasn't going to respond again to this thread.

[Joeb427]

Originally Posted by DylanPS

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't know if you're legit or not, but I can't imagine you have come to afford a Porsche 911 Turbo if you act in real life as you act here. I'm 19 years old, don't own an awesome car and even I know that you're being immature and stupid. The people on this forum are good people and they take pride in their cars, whatever they may be. While you may find a Jaguar to be superior to a BMW, many of the people here may find a BMW to be superior to a Jaguar. I'm not exactly sure why you came to BMW forum and posted this thread. If you didn't know you were going to get this response then please stop being a 5-year-old and move on. However, I'm more inclined to believe that you got exactly the response you came looking for. In that case, it's pretty sad that you get your jollies stirring up trouble on an internet forum where your face will never been shone.

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by DylanPS

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't know if you're legit or not, but I can't imagine you have come to afford a Porsche 911 Turbo if you act in real life as you act here. I'm 19 years old, don't own an awesome car and even I know that you're being immature and stupid. The people on this forum are good people and they take pride in their cars, whatever they may be. While you may find a Jaguar to be superior to a BMW, many of the people here may find a BMW to be superior to a Jaguar. I'm not exactly sure why you came to BMW forum and posted this thread. If you didn't know you were going to get this response then please stop being a 5-year-old and move on. However, I'm more inclined to believe that you got exactly the response you came looking for. In that case, it's pretty sad that you get your jollies stirring up trouble on an internet forum where your face will never been shone.

Bingo, usually it's pretty obvious haha.

I see this sort of thing on plenty of car forums.

It's always funny seeing people with signatures like "bugatti veyron, slr mclaren, lamborghini murcielago, porsche 911 turbo, 335i" when it's clear that those are not their cars, those are their dad's cars (and the 335i is "theirs" although usually purchased by their dad). Hey it's nothing to be ashamed of though, my father bought me my 335i.

I don't pretend like I purchased this car myself, I know I'm lucky. I also don't put in my father's $100k+ cars in my signature and act like they are mine, because they are not haha.

Nobody with a veyron drives a 335i even as a daily driver.

[GregL]

Originally Posted by DylanPS

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't know if you're legit or not, but I can't imagine you have come to afford a Porsche 911 Turbo if you act in real life as you act here. I'm 19 years old, don't own an awesome car and even I know that you're being immature and stupid. The people on this forum are good people and they take pride in their cars, whatever they may be. While you may find a Jaguar to be superior to a BMW, many of the people here may find a BMW to be superior to a Jaguar. I'm not exactly sure why you came to BMW forum and posted this thread. If you didn't know you were going to get this response then please stop being a 5-year-old and move on. However, I'm more inclined to believe that you got exactly the response you came looking for. In that case, it's pretty sad that you get your jollies stirring up trouble on an internet forum where your face will never been shone.

Best first post I've ever seen!

[stickypaws]

Don't you kids have your own opinions? What's the matter, are you too insecure to trust yourself? Why do you have to say "Jay Leno said..." or post reviews and Youtube videos?

You like the car? Then just say it. Nothing wrong with that. But discuss it like someone with a brain and not jello in that place between your ears. Otherwise you got weak knees. And the only sex you'll ever get is looking at it on wheels.

[ianthegreat]

because we all know Jay Leno is the authority in cars.. Letterman > Leno any day.

[stressdoc]

Obviously I was wrong about this guy working for Jaguar.

[Indy335iCp]

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

Regardless if the new M5 will be faster pr not the Jag is more sexier and has more class. There will always be a car faster than another car. Jags are sex on wheels.

It's more sexier people! MORE SEXIER! You can't argue with that. More sexier adds 50 bhp at least.

[crazed792]

I'm amazed this thread hasn't been locked. Anyway, to the OP, that is a nice looking car, and I did enjoy the video of it vs. the M5. But when he said flat out that the feel of the car was like riding a big dog or some such (seemed to say that it didn't feel as sporty [read fun] to drive), that killed it for me. I love the driving feel of the BMW, and this whole thread just makes me wish I could easily afford an M5. Ah well.

[blk335i08]

Originally Posted by crazed792

I'm amazed this thread hasn't been locked.

I'm amazed all the mods are replying to this thread instead of locking it.

[M3PGH]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

As pathetic as it is, we now live in a world with professional paid trolls.

+1

[Captain Oblivious]

Guys, don't feed the trolls. Ignore them and they disappear.

[roozie2001]

let this be the last post

[fdsasdasdf]

I swear new Jags look like Aston Martins from behind. I'll be like OH MAN someone has an Aston! And then I realize that it's actually a Jag. Cool story, I know

[captainaudio]

As a BMW (335i Convertible - NYC Car) and Jaguar (XKR Coupe - Florida car)) owner maybe I can put some unbiased light on the subject.

1. The Jaguar design is not an "Aston Martin Ripoff". Ian Callum was the chief of design for both firms.

2. Styling is subjective and both companies have made some very attractive and some rather unattractive cars.

3. I have driven both an M5 and and XFR on tracks (Monticello and Lime Rock) and have done hot laps as a passenger with top professional drivers. They are both very potent cars.

4. Our XKR has a much better balance between handling and comfort than the 335. The 335 (sport package) is not a pleasant car to drive on bad surfaces,

5. We enjoy both cars. The 335i comes very close to the XKR and was a lot less money. The most apparent diffence is the interior. While the 335i interior is very nice the Jag interior is in another league.

6. An M3 will outperform an XKR but both (and the 335 for that matter) offer a lot more performance than can be used on public roads and none of them are really sutable for serious track use.

I just got back from a top down ride along the Delaware River on the 335i and it was a pleasure to drive on those roads. Then I got back to Manhattan and drove down the FDR drive and shook the fillings out of my teeth.

CA

[TwinTurboXI]

Although i like the Jag, Both the E63 and M5 IMO are nicer cars and much more desirable. The Jag tries to hard to be something its not and looks tacky in the process.



You say Jay Leno talks about beautiful Jags, I would be almost certain he's referring to the classics, the truly beautiful Jags.



On a side note, how do you like your c55? I'm assuming your talking about a w203. I owned one prior to my 335xi and loved that car.

[pcarturbo911]

Originally Posted by captainaudio

6. An M3 will outperform an XKR but both (and the 335 for that matter) offer a lot more performance than can be used on public roads and none of them are really sutable for serious track use.

FACT:
An M3 will not outperform an XKR nor a XFR. Jag XKR is aluminum body with 510hp V8 Supercharged. The aluminum body is 40% lighter than steel cars. You must not know your Jags.


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[pcarturbo911]

Originally Posted by captainaudio

1. The Jaguar design is not an "Aston Martin Ripoff". Ian Callum was the chief of design for both firms.

FACT: Aston Martin borrows Jaguar Designs from the old XJS to design the DB7.

[BK]

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

FACT:
An M3 will not outperform an XKR nor a XFR. Jag XKR is aluminum body with 510hp V8 Supercharged. The aluminum body is 40% lighter than steel cars. You must not know your Jags.

Top Gear lap times:
...
46. 1:25.3 - BMW M3 E90 Sedan
47. 1:25.7 - Lotus Evora
48. 1:25.7 - Audi RS4[12]
49. 1:25.7 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
50. 1:25.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
51. 1:25.9 - Morgan Aero 8 GTN[13]
52. 1:26.0 - BMW M3 CSL (very wet)
53. 1:26.0 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
54. 1:26.0 - BMW Z4M
55. 1:26.0 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320[14]
56. 1:26.2 - BMW M5[15]
57. 1:26.2 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997)
58. 1:26.2 - Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
59. 1:26.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst
60. 1:26.4 - Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
61. 1:26.7 - Porsche Cayman S[16]
62. 1:26.7 - Jaguar XFR
...
135. 1:34.2 - MINI Cooper S Works[24]
136. 1:34.2 - Ford Mondeo ST220
137. 1:34.7 - Jaguar XKR (melted snow)
138. 1:34.9 - Ford Focus ST (wet)
139. 1:35.0 - Volvo S60 R

/apologies for the troll feeding

[TwinTurboXI]

Fact: From Motortrend the 2010 XFR weighs 4378 pounds.

The M5 weighs a hair over 4000, regardless of this aluminum frame you so highly praise, the XFR weighs almost 400 pounds more.

Did you miss my first post?

[jaychou1987]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

Bingo, usually it's pretty obvious haha.

I see this sort of thing on plenty of car forums.

It's always funny seeing people with signatures like "bugatti veyron, slr mclaren, lamborghini murcielago, porsche 911 turbo, 335i" when it's clear that those are not their cars, those are their dad's cars (and the 335i is "theirs" although usually purchased by their dad). Hey it's nothing to be ashamed of though, my father bought me my 335i.

I don't pretend like I purchased this car myself, I know I'm lucky. I also don't put in my father's $100k+ cars in my signature and act like they are mine, because they are not haha.

Nobody with a veyron drives a 335i even as a daily driver.

I don't know about you, but I love the 335i as a daily driver. And why is everyone who is jealous about someone's car automatically use the lame "daddy's car" as an excuse. It offends the people who actually work for their cars. Besides who would drive their supercars out everyday. And do you even know anyone who has a veyron?

[Koroush]

Originally Posted by BK

Top Gear lap times:
...
46. 1:25.3 - BMW M3 E90 Sedan
47. 1:25.7 - Lotus Evora
48. 1:25.7 - Audi RS4[12]
49. 1:25.7 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
50. 1:25.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
51. 1:25.9 - Morgan Aero 8 GTN[13]
52. 1:26.0 - BMW M3 CSL (very wet)
53. 1:26.0 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
54. 1:26.0 - BMW Z4M
55. 1:26.0 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320[14]
56. 1:26.2 - BMW M5[15]
57. 1:26.2 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997)
58. 1:26.2 - Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
59. 1:26.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst
60. 1:26.4 - Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
61. 1:26.7 - Porsche Cayman S[16]
62. 1:26.7 - Jaguar XFR
...
135. 1:34.2 - MINI Cooper S Works[24]
136. 1:34.2 - Ford Mondeo ST220
137. 1:34.7 - Jaguar XKR (melted snow)
138. 1:34.9 - Ford Focus ST (wet)
139. 1:35.0 - Volvo S60 R

/apologies for the troll feeding

HeHe, troll got owned by real facts. Thread over?