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      05-07-2019, 08:21 AM   #1
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I just had and exchange with Run Silent and DETRoadster about the Biden and Trump match up and though it'd be fun to delineate our respective strategies on how you would defeat Mr. Trump or if you're Mr. Trump, how you'd defeat one of the dems currently running. I'll start off with my strategy to defeat Mr. Biden if I were Mr. Trump which caused DetR no small amount of concern. Lol!

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Trump vs. Biden

Biden has a lot of negative baggage and a picture is worth a thousand words. I'd run the creepy videos 24/7. Especially the one's with children. I'd then find each and every man that was around during the photos and videos and interview them on how they felt in the moment. I'd then interview Jeff Sessions and ask him why he slapped Biden's hand away when Creepy Uncle Joe was going for his grand daughter.

My next step would be to hang every negative Obama policy around his neck and set them on fire. The Coup De Gras would be his son's relationship with the Ukrainians and how he tampered with the justice system of a sovereign nation by engaging in a pattern of blackmail to keep his son out of jail.

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When there's a perception that children are involved it's game over.

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      05-07-2019, 09:15 AM   #3
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I'm more inclined to utilize the old Reagan stalwart.

"Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"

In reality, the majority of Americans are better off now. One can argue till the cows come home if the current administration has anything to do with the economic indicators during their time in office, but reality shows that most voters think that way. For better or worse, they will always blame the current office holder for how the economy is doing.

He can ask them - how many soldiers are coming home in body bags during my administration? How much more of your paycheck are you keeping? Business owners, how have regulations increased or decreased? How about your corporate taxes and the ability to compete overseas?

If he wants to throw the base a bone, he can poke the bear and ask those who live in CA, WA, and NY if their paychecks have seen more or less taxes taken out? Then say, if it's more - why do you think that is? What will you do to your local politicians so that you have a bigger paycheck like the other 40-45 states? Push it back on them.

I also concur with MKSixer and his strategy. As much as I despise negative political ads, there is undeniable proof that they work.

Time will tell all.
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Most of the Dems will defeat themselves through the primary process, as the R’s did last time. Trump succeeding on the economy and, if possible China trade, would be huge in contrast to the Dems ideas and undermine their criticisms. Then it is just a matter of slaying the primary victor- which could be tough given the polarization of the media and electorate and Trump’s character issues. I think he stays on the attack, essentially the same strategy as last time but this time around with the economy and other improvements to crow about.

On the Dem side, to attract R voters in the middle-ish (forget the extremes), you have to argue you will build on and broaden the successes, take credit away from Trump (“these were already in process; the cake was in the oven”) and that you can restore dignity to the presidency/White House.

Like him or not, Trump’s successes are going to be hard to beat (gummischwanz).
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Dems could also try climate change and environment, but again those are uphill climbs for the middle voters given the strength of the economy and lack of demonstrable degradation of the environment (just some minimal regulatory roll-back). I don’t think this is a winning strategy, but it might be another element to toss in.
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Trump succeeding on the economy and, if possible China trade, would be huge in contrast to the Dems ideas and undermine their criticisms.
Huge, or YUUUUG?


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On the Dem side, to attract R voters in the middle-ish (forget the extremes), you have to argue ... that you can restore dignity to the presidency/White House.
This is a strong point. There are many in the country that generally don't disapprove of the overall Trump policy directive, but really don't like him as a person and find him boorish and a terrible face of the nation.

If the Democrat nominee can provide strong evidence that they will bring back decorum to the office of the President, they might sway voters to their side.
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I just had and exchange with @[Run Silent]
My next step would be to hang every negative Obama policy around his neck and set them on fire. The Coup De Gras would be his son's relationship with the Ukrainians and how he tampered with the justice system of a sovereign nation by engaging in a pattern of blackmail to keep his son out of jail.
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Don't forget Hunter Biden and China. Hunter flies with daddy on Air Force Two to China and within days his firm receives a 1.5 billion dollar investment from the state run bank.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hers-trip.html
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Don't forget Hunter Biden and China. Hunter flies with daddy on Air Force Two to China and within days his firm receives a 1.5 billion dollar investment from the state run bank.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hers-trip.html
I forgot about that one. And the fact that it actually splatters John Kerry's son in all aspects as they are partners.

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Don't forget Hunter Biden and China. Hunter flies with daddy on Air Force Two to China and within days his firm receives a 1.5 billion dollar investment from the state run bank.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hers-trip.html
Wow! That stinks to high heaven. If Trump had not made the White House somewhat a family affair with positions, he'd be even better placed to exploit this.
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When Biden speaks, you have a 70/30 chance it'll be good/bad for him. I don't know about twitter.
When Trump speaks, 95% it will be uninformed, unintelligent and possibly "conspiracy" based. When he tweets, the percentage goes to 97%.

Advantage: Biden

Also: No James Comey running the FBI to help Trump win this time with a last minute investigation.

Advantage: Biden
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I think Icky Biden will crash and burn and not be the nominee.
You guys listed some good items in case he's the one.
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You have to ask yourself if you're a democrat, would you want Biden alone with your children, girlfriend or wife? Thats the sort of thing that won't play well with their base. Trump has similar problems except his base doesn't seem to care about his character flaws.
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You have to ask yourself if you're a democrat, would you want Biden alone with your children, girlfriend or wife? Thats the sort of thing that won't play well with their base. Trump has similar problems except his base doesn't seem to care about his character flaws.
I don't think Trump would be a perv around ones kids and family. He likes grown women, whether he pays for it or not doesn't concern me, I would trust him with my kids. On the other hand, I wouldn't leave my daughters around feely touchy Joey for a minute. I would react the way Sessions did the first time and the second would be even more forceful than that.
There are character flaws in trump no doubt but kind of like prison etiquette, you can overlook certain things but sexual, kid creeps beg for solitary in the big house and we know why.
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I don't think Trump would be a perv around ones kids and family. He likes grown women, whether he pays for it or not doesn't concern me, I would trust him with my kids. On the other hand, I wouldn't leave my daughters around feely touchy Joey for a minute. I would react the way Sessions did the first time and the second would be even more forceful than that.
There are character flaws in trump no doubt but kind of like prison etiquette, you can overlook certain things but sexual, kid creeps beg for solitary in the big house and we know why.
My point exactly, and I don't think the dems want to win bad enough to elect "creepy uncle joe".
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My point exactly, and I don't think the dems want to win bad enough to elect "creepy uncle joe".
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It is the most powerful force in the galaxy...
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Ok, let's play...

If I were running against Biden I would run commercials every hour with this still frame for one minute at a time...

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If I were running against Biden I would run commercials every hour with this still frame for one minute at a time...

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That poor baby with the bugged eyes getting its crotch grabbed taking a picture might top that one. How bout Split screen!
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You have to ask yourself if you're a democrat, would you want Biden alone with your children, girlfriend or wife? Thats the sort of thing that won't play well with their base. Trump has similar problems except his base doesn't seem to care about his character flaws.
I would have no problem with Biden being alone with my wife....Mostly because she has trained in kung fu and Jiu jitsu....
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I just had and exchange with Run Silent and DETRoadster about the Biden and Trump match up and though it'd be fun to delineate our respective strategies on how you would defeat Mr. Trump or if you're Mr. Trump, how you'd defeat one of the dems currently running. I'll start off with my strategy to defeat Mr. Biden if I were Mr. Trump which caused DetR no small amount of concern. Lol!
To be clear, my concern was rooted in the realization that my 2020 choices appear to be limited to:

A) Trump
B) A Pedo
C) One of 23 different Socialists
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That poor baby with the bugged eyes getting its crotch grabbed taking a picture might top that one. How bout Split screen!
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When Biden speaks, you have a 70/30 chance it'll be good/bad for him. I don't know about twitter.
When Trump speaks, 95% it will be uninformed, unintelligent and possibly "conspiracy" based. When he tweets, the percentage goes to 97%.

Advantage: Biden

Also: No James Comey running the FBI to help Trump win this time with a last minute investigation.

Advantage: Biden
Biden in pictures groping children.

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