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      01-29-2019, 01:29 PM   #45
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Thank you, my friend, but I have known the point of view of the English-language Wikipedia for a long time...
My comrade, Real Dorger, has posted this link already probably 15 times ))
Oh....I've posted that and many other pieces detailing Russian malfeasance in their foreign policy (Yes, Crimea is foreign policy. It was part of another country, and taken by force with no negotiation).

How are those Ukrainian sailors doing that were taken hostage in the Kerch Strait?
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Do we interfere in the presidential election of another country ?! No, well, how could you think?

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2019/01/288634.htm

Russia always interfere, but not US ))
US interferes, but at least SOME of us US citizens object to said interference. THAT is the freedom we are allowed to have which you may lack.

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      01-29-2019, 03:07 PM   #47
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How are those Ukrainian sailors doing that were taken hostage in the Kerch Strait?
It's all right with them, buddy. As with all border intruders, they are in prison. As it would for example with violators of the American border )
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It's all right with them, buddy. As with all border intruders, they are in prison. As it would for example with violators of the American border )
But, by treaty (with Russia), they were allowed to be in the kerch strait. If a Mexican coast guard boat ended up in US waters, they wouldn't be arrested and paraded on TV and in front of the state media. But hey....the Iranians do that sort of thing too.

But, again, it goes to show that treaty's with Russia don't mean much.
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      01-30-2019, 02:44 PM   #49
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/marke...H0c?ocid=ientp

Are they shipping this straight to OUR Ivan?

Venezuelan lawmaker Jose Guerra dropped a bombshell on Twitter Tuesday: The Russian Boeing 777 that had landed in Caracas the day before was there to spirit away 20 tons of gold from the vaults of the country’s central bank.
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Are they shipping this straight to OUR Ivan?

Venezuelan lawmaker Jose Guerra dropped a bombshell on Twitter Tuesday: The Russian Boeing 777 that had landed in Caracas the day before was there to spirit away 20 tons of gold from the vaults of the country’s central bank.
Brings a new definition to, "looting".
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      01-31-2019, 10:27 AM   #51
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I like the modern world - you can’t hide anything, everything is transparent. Any idiot-journalist, without getting up from the couch, can find out who put the gold on the plane and when it went and where it went
I recognize Bellingcat style ))
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The ruling socialist party has started to crack down on opposition within Venezuela’s slums in the most brutal way possible.

Now that socialism has cratered and resulted in hyperinflation, these same people are suffering and have turned on Maduro. Sunday, Reuters reports that a government police force designed to fight terrorism is being used to murder and terrorize opposition targets, shooting men and women dead in the streets.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1PS07M

On Jan. 22, according to residents, an unmarked pickup truck mounted with speakers drove through Jose Felix Ribas, a district within Caracas’ sprawling Petare shantytown, broadcasting a message: “If you protest tomorrow, there will be consequences.”

Most said they took little heed. But six locals said the consequences became clear on Jan. 24 when FAES officers pulled a 23-year-old mother, the cousin of an alleged gang leader, from her house and shot her dead. A church was sprayed with bullets. One man was executed after being handcuffed inside a vehicle, residents said. The government claims it is simply going after gang members but the extra-judicial killings involve no evidence and no exchanges of gunfire, just executions that observers believe are connected to protests.

The FAES came to the Jose Felix Ribas slums for four days in a row. They asked a man named Yohendry Fernandez if he had a criminal record. When he said yes, they shot him in the chest. This isn’t police work, it’s state terrorism. If you want desperate people to stay home and not protest the government, you make them fear for their lives.

A group called the Venezuelan Observatory of Violence says it believes 43 deaths are attributable to these government kill squads since January 22nd but there may be more. End-stage socialism is a bloody business.
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      02-14-2019, 03:46 AM   #53
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Get together guys! It is necessary to free the people of Venezuela from from oppression of these fucking Russians!

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Get together guys! It is necessary to free the people of Venezuela from from oppression of these fucking Russians!

Yeah - not sure I agree with this. I am not typically a fan of embargo's or sanctions. They tend to hurt the poor people of the country far more than the government officials.

Not sure this is the best course of action.
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Apparently, the Venezuelan military is now supposed to kill you if you give food to those who are starving.

This country is quickly turning into Zimbabwe and North Korea. Dear God, man.

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Venezuela Border Clash: Pro-Maduro Militias Open Fire, Killing Four People Over Humanitarian Aid

The tension in Venezuela spilled over into violence along the Venezuela-Brazilian border that left four people dead and at least 24 wounded. With the nation, once a beacon of so-called 21stCentury Socialism, now in economic shambles, President Nicolas Maduro, successor to the late Hugo Chavez, is facing calls to step down. The nation is broke, people are starving, and there’s a lack of basic supplies. People of all economic background are now resorting to prostitution for groceries. The far left contingent thinks that the U.S. is orchestrating all of the economic distress. As for humanitarian aid, Maduro’s government is blocking it. On a bridge along the Colombian-Venezuela border, shipping containers have blocked the lanes, with security forces standing guard. The U.S. and several other nations have recognized opposition leader Juan Guaido as the leader of the country.

Now, pro-Maduro militias have opened fire at this frontier border crossing over humanitarian aid. Maduro said that he’s cutting off diplomatic ties with Colombia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...manitarian-aid
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      02-25-2019, 01:30 PM   #56
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^^^^ yanno, what we need now is more advice from Danny Glover
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Thank God for Maduro.

It's as if though this tragedy had been scripted/timed for Trump.

I can't recall the last time Christmas day came this regularly for the administration...
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Bern baby Bern
https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20...ie-Sanders.htm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...la-aid-concert
Roger Waters condemns Richard Branson's Venezuela aid concert

Where does this guy get his news? RT?
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Brings a new definition to, "looting".
He's preparing for his Batisa exit.
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Very interesting.

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It's been some years since since Hugo Chavez croaked and the boycott of fuel from there, don't forget that Citgo gas is still owned by the govt of Venezuela and all the cash from Americans goes right into Madura's personal coffers not to the citizens.
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It's been some years since since Hugo Chavez croaked and the boycott of fuel from there, don't forget that Citgo gas is still owned by the govt of Venezuela and all the cash from Americans goes right into Madura's personal coffers not to the citizens.
I never go to Citgo for this reason.

Lookie here
Citgo formally cuts ties with Venezuela-based parent company: sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...KCN1QF2IG?il=0
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I never go to Citgo for this reason.

Lookie here
Citgo formally cuts ties with Venezuela-based parent company: sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...KCN1QF2IG?il=0
Didn't hear this.
Interesting if true and if not. Coming from Reuters and they were told by two anoynomous sources sounds like 'evidence' that most on the left here use to make points.
If indeed it's true how many years since Chavez took over there? And they still stuck with the regimes there the whole way, screw them either way. I don't need Venezuelan gas.
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Didn't hear this.
Interesting if true and if not. Coming from Reuters and they were told by two anoynomous sources sounds like 'evidence' that most on the left here use to make points.
If indeed it's true how many years since Chavez took over there? And they still stuck the regimes there the whole way, screw them either way. I don't need Venezuelan gas.
There was also a link from CNBC, not a fan of them so I chose Reuters link.
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There was also a link from CNBC, not a fan of them so I chose Reuters link.
CNBC is further down the BS ladder then even Reuters.
Not bashing you for the links, just stating I'm not comfortable with one way only news sources.
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