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      05-17-2019, 12:39 PM   #925
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and I post again, all this talk over a $5B wall to secure our own country.

Isreal gets $38B in US tax dollars for defense. Bi-partisan support, no questions asked. They are in a budget surplus, by the way.

What in the hell is going on?
The Jews have been fighting for their land for 2000+ years. They will be a viable country with their own identity long after we become a banana republic.

But actually your question is brilliant....we could maybe borrow 5.6 billion for them to build a wall...they could actually install it!!!!
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I'm afraid you're right. A wall is ugly, problematic with land rights issues and will be a boondoggle like any big gov't program. But saying it won't work without offering a workable alternative is dishonest. Just say you want open borders and then debate the pros and cons. My guess is that doesn't happen because many current residents that will be hurt by open borders (less money for social services, more strain on schools, downward pressure on low skilled labor rates) are the Dem's base.
Here's an alternative: 95% of the drugs that cross the southern border come through the existing, legitimate crossing points. How about we spend $5B to beef up the systems there and stop that s**t from getting into the country, instead of on Trump's benighted wall?

Trump's wall rhetoric isn't about protecting the US. It's about keeping "them" "there". That's why it works well to drum up support from his base. I'm not calling it racist because it isn't, necessarily. It's jingoist, certainly.
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and I post again, all this talk over a $5B wall to secure our own country.

Isreal gets $38B in US tax dollars for defense. Bi-partisan support, no questions asked. They are in a budget surplus, by the way.

What in the hell is going on?
It's all about the Benjamins baby...
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Here's an alternative: 95% of the drugs that cross the southern border come through the existing, legitimate crossing points. How about we spend $5B to beef up the systems there and stop that s**t from getting into the country, instead of on Trump's benighted wall?

Trump's wall rhetoric isn't about protecting the US. It's about keeping "them" "there". That's why it works well to drum up support from his base. I'm not calling it racist because it isn't, necessarily. It's jingoist, certainly.
I have read those reports but the facts are that no one can know what percentage of drugs get through both ports of entry..sorry.

But you guys keep shoveling shit in an effort to disguise the fact that you love illegals of which the overwhelming number cross the southern border over inadequate fencing or no fence at all.

Why can't you just admit that?
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Yeah and why against merit based entrance. Did you select your wifes name out of a hat, would you hire employees then same way. Let in who we want keep out the riff raff.
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Heres a very good reason for building walls and tightening security all around the entire country. Very bad people are sneaking in by the thousands from many different countries. They must be stopped. N,S,E,W. Race, creed or color doesnít matter. Evil is coming here every single day. One day a family member of yours might be on the receiving end of horror be it rape, drugs, murder......
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He might have killed dozens more..at least.
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Here's an alternative: 95% of the drugs that cross the southern border come through the existing, legitimate crossing points. How about we spend $5B to beef up the systems there and stop that s**t from getting into the country, instead of on Trump's benighted wall?

Trump's wall rhetoric isn't about protecting the US. It's about keeping "them" "there". That's why it works well to drum up support from his base. I'm not calling it racist because it isn't, necessarily. It's jingoist, certainly.
To me the talk from the Admin about stopping drugs with a wall is a feeble attempt to get support. I think itís about economics. The oft stated cost for each illegal entrant is $8,000 / yr. Say that number is inflated for political reasons and the reality is half that. Multiply by 2 million illegal entrants and you have ____?

Check out the population of the 3 pertinent Central American countries and look at the potential to greatly increase the current number of illegal immigrants. Are the jobs there? What is the downward pressure on wages? What about overcrowded schools, etc, etc.

Saying just enforce current laws sounds good, but, will it happen? There is this unholy tacit alliance between business owners and the Dem party.
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There is this unholy tacit alliance between business owners and the Dem party.
Its already getting difficult to hire illegals, and the "businesses" that hire them are not doners to the Democratic party.

The Dems support the situation bc chaos is good for them. Also bleeding hearts who want to take care them are Democrats. Mostly though the Dems don't want to see a solution right now. If a Dem gets elected in 2020 the Wall will be built..count on it.
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There is this unholy tacit alliance between business owners and the Dem party.
Its already getting difficult to hire illegals, and the "businesses" that hire them are not doners to the Democratic party.

The Dems support the situation bc chaos is good for them. Also bleeding hearts who want to take care them are Democrats. Mostly though the Dems don't want to see a solution right now. If a Dem gets elected in 2020 the Wall will be built..count on it.
The chances of a Dem getting elected in 2020 is slim to none. Look at the idiots that are running. It's pathetic.
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The chances of a Dem getting elected in 2020 is slim to none. Look at the idiots that are running. It's pathetic.
All it takes though is to come up with one non idiot. Look how many times a vilage idiot like Biden has been elected in his 50+ years in politics.
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All it takes though is to come up with one non idiot. Look how many times a vilage idiot like Biden has been elected in his 50+ years in politics.
That's because liberals want pedophilia recognized as a sexual orientation.
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The chances of a Dem getting elected in 2020 is slim to none. Look at the idiots that are running. It's pathetic.
All it takes though is to come up with one non idiot. Look how many times a vilage idiot like Biden has been elected in his 50+ years in politics.
True. But I don't see one non-Idiot among this current crop. I was reading today that the "butt" guy has an issue with Thomas Jefferson. That's gonna get him real far in the presidential election process. Trump is what he is for good and bad but the current Dems don't stand a chance in this economy etc etc.... against him.
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That's because liberals want pedophilia recognized as a sexual orientation.
Yeah and catsup recognized as a vegetable. Damned liberals.
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Its already getting difficult to hire illegals, and the "businesses" that hire them are not doners to the Democratic party.

The Dems support the situation bc chaos is good for them. Also bleeding hearts who want to take care them are Democrats. Mostly though the Dems don't want to see a solution right now. If a Dem gets elected in 2020 the Wall will be built..count on it.
Agree that the said businesses aren't typically Dem donors - that's why I called it a tacit unholy alliance.

Agree with the rest of you statement also except not dead sure a Dem victory in 2020 will have them flip re the wall. They might look at future elections and not want to alienate the votes they bought with their usual pandering.

Funny thing is most people from Central America or Mexico would rather be living in their own countries IF those countries provided economic opportunity and better personal security. I'd like to see the money spent on social services for illegals or the wall spent helping out those countries. Snowball's chance in hell of that happening though.
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Funny thing is most people from Central America or Mexico would rather be living in their own countries IF those countries provided economic opportunity and better personal security.
They may say that. But that would be hard to believe. It will always be a shithole. Put lipstick on a turd and its still a turd.
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Cite, please.
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Cite, please.
Can he simply post a picture?
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Can he simply post a picture?
In this case, I feel that pithy memes are insufficient.
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