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      03-11-2019, 02:42 PM   #1
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Stovetop; Gas or induction?

Will keep it brief, currently have gas, sister in law just installed induction so use both regularly (they live two doors down). Here are my plus/minuses .....

GAS:
- Absolute bitch to keep clean
- Biggest gripe is that when boiling I like high heat and gas tends to just heat the outer ring of the cookware base because you need a flame too big for the pot. So you get this dead zone in the centre of the the pot when attempting to aggressively boil, I absolutely despise it for this reason

+ Knobs instead of a stupid touch interface
+ Instant control of heat (meh)

INDUCTION:

- I loathe touch interface instead of knobs, press this to turn it on, then this to select the burner then this to set temp ... just fucking sloppy and no physical feedback at all so the pressing sort of works unreliably unless you really pay attention to where you're pressing. Input lag too.
- Cookware shifts when stirring, so always two hands needed when cooking FFS

+ Dead easy to clean
+ Looks better than massive clunky gas contraption
+ Instant heat and variable burner size

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I have an electric one and when I move into my own place I want a induction one it looks cool and gas seems... sketch.
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Replaced our stove with Samsung induction one. Still wondering why we didn't get one before. Four button control for the burners and digital controls for the two combined ovens that you can use separately if you choose to.

Faster than gaz, no dangerous issues with gaz and no need for a noisy super-fan. No heat if you forget to shut it without a pot on. And so easy to clean.


My friend had gaz for years and changed for induction when she saw and used ours.
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You still need your fan to remove oily stam or you coat your kitchen in that shit.
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Gas if you actually want to cook. Induction if you're just Blue Aproning it up.
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You still need your fan to remove oily stam or you coat your kitchen in that shit.
Of course you still need a fan but it doesn't have to be as powerful as the one required by code for gaz.
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I went pro series gas and will never look back.
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Gas if you actually want to cook. Induction if you're just Blue Aproning it up.
And why would that be ???


Induction is faster both to heat and cool down and is equally powerful.

Did you ever compared ?
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How the hell do you people boil with gas? if i use the correct sized burner and flame it takes half an hour to come to a boil and when i add the food it takes another half hour to recover. If i crank it up it just rings the base of the pot leaving the food piled in the middle rather than churning as it should.
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I prefer gas for cooking even though I understand the benefits of the induction burners. Maybe it is just how I learned to use the tools?

There is a thing we use on our burners to evenly heat the bottom of a pan, especially to keep low heat from burning the center. It is about 8in diameter and ceramic coated probably iron. Sorry I don’t know what it is called. That plus good burner designs (our stove has 5 burners, each a different size, so really easy to match to the cookware being used) makes for the perfect cooking experience (outside of grilling, of course).

We have separate electric ovens. Gas heats up faster but electric is good enough.

My last house had a Wolf range with 4 burners, double oven, griddle and grille. A beast that could heat any size pot but wasn’t real good on low heat needs, even with the thingy. A more modest range actually seems to work better for our actual cooking needs, even if it fails to impress the neighbors.
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As someone who Cooks regularly and is an "Above Average Cook" (borderline Chef)...

There is no substitute for cooking over fire/flames... Period!

I understand how 'hot' gas gets and can cook effortlessly without guesswork.

We have a 5-Burner Whirlpool with a 'Speed Burner' that works exceptionally well for broiling and it boils water really fast for gas.
Here it is if interested: https://www.whirlpool.com/kitchen/co...cg97us0ds.html
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One reason I prefer gas is that I’ve gone through extended power outages cooking on a camp stove or wood stove. And once in an apartment where we were SOL. Those experiences taught me to have a second fuel option so electric ovens, gas range. If the heat/ac is electric, then there is either a woodstove or a backup permanent generator. But it is really important to be able to heat up some soup or anything in those conditions, so a gas/propane cooktop is really essential.
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Will keep it brief, currently have gas, sister in law just installed induction so use both regularly (they live two doors down). Here are my plus/minuses .....

GAS:
- Absolute bitch to keep clean
- Biggest gripe is that when boiling I like high heat and gas tends to just heat the outer ring of the cookware base because you need a flame too big for the pot. So you get this dead zone in the centre of the the pot when attempting to aggressively boil, I absolutely despise it for this reason

+ Knobs instead of a stupid touch interface
+ Instant control of heat (meh)

INDUCTION:

- I loathe touch interface instead of knobs, press this to turn it on, then this to select the burner then this to set temp ... just fucking sloppy and no physical feedback at all so the pressing sort of works unreliably unless you really pay attention to where you're pressing. Input lag too.
- Cookware shifts when stirring, so always two hands needed when cooking FFS

+ Dead easy to clean
+ Looks better than massive clunky gas contraption
+ Instant heat and variable burner size

Thoughts, feeling, emotions?
So lets compare apples to apples. Some gas stove aren't as effective as induction. A cheap gas stove is just that and will disappoint. We have a 36" Wolf commercial grade stove. No electronics so it always works even without hydro. The burners have a very wide range of control and really high BTU's so when you need heat you have it. It is also very easy to clean, the burner covers (grates) come up easily and the deck is simple to clean. The thing is a beast, and built to cook and too last. I have taken the minimalist approach when it comes to electronics in our appliances. We had a decent gas stove a few houses ago with fancy electronic controls, the motherboard pooched just out of warranty and it cost as much as a new stove to repair. Induction is sexy to be sure, I have some friends with one and we looked at them when we bought the Wolf. Did lots of research. You said emotion and our view (and my wife cooked professionally when she was young), the induction is nice but is kind of a toy compared to gas. Thats just my opinion but you asked.

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Gas if you actually want to cook. Induction if you're just Blue Aproning it up.
And why would that be ???


Induction is faster both to heat and cool down and is equally powerful.

Did you ever compared ?
Fine control, ability to use any style of cookware, the fact that men (the historical kind) cook on fire. Magnets are for nerds.
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Oh, and I currently have induction in my place. And a whole section of cabinets with copper and Cephalon pots and pans just waiting to move to a place with gas, although my cast iron and La Creuset are getting a good workout.
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After buying the induction I have to buy all new pots/pans too???

Thanks, but no thanks. My iron skillet is just barely getting properly seasoned after 10+ years.
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Induction every time.

I only cook three meals per day so I don't know what the pros will say but gas never gave me the accuracy I needed and I hated it.
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Induction every time.

I only cook three meals per day so I don't know what the pros will say but gas never gave me the accuracy I needed and I hated it.
And if induction works for you great. But if you have a good gas stove you will get excellent results. If you have a shit gas stove you won't have the control both low heat and the ability to get a pan hot fast.
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And if induction works for you great. But if you have a good gas stove you will get excellent results. If you have a shit gas stove you won't have the control both low heat and the ability to get a pan hot fast.
I have coal grills that are easier to clean than gass stoves and that's the main perk of an induction stove, besides of the accuracy.

You can't beat the accuracy of an induction cooker with any other. For that quality, a good one of those beats everything else.

Now, induction pans and pots are not often up to the task. That should be the next topic. I still rather take my old fashioned pots to my grill outside rather than have a gas cooker ever again.
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OP - I think you summed it up, but I'd add two things:

Induction
* Must use cookware that is compatible with induction stove. Some of your existing pots and saucepans may need to be replaced.
* Can no longer use round-bottemed cookware (ie. throw your wok away).

Gas
* Requires gas plumbing to kitchen.
* The only choice if you're serious about cooking.

If you love cooking, there's no substitute for cooking with Gas.
If it's your second kitchen or you just cook because you have to, induction is much easier to clean and you can use that bench space for other things when the stove is off.
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OP - I think you summed it up, but I'd add two things:

Induction
* Must use cookware that is compatible with induction stove. Some of your existing pots and saucepans may need to be replaced.
* Can no longer use round-bottemed cookware (ie. throw your wok away).

Gas
* Requires gas plumbing to kitchen.
* The only choice if you're serious about cooking.

If you love cooking, there's no substitute for cooking with Gas.
If it's your second kitchen or you just cook because you have to, induction is much easier to clean and you can use that bench space for other things when the stove is off.
.....and you can't light your smoke on an induction stove.
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