F1 2022: Austrian GP - Spielberg (July 10)

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Yes, the politics of F1 are becoming a serious nuisance my friend. I deal with exec level corporate politics all day and hate to see it in sport. Especially in F1, that was my haven away from the corporate games and posturing. At least I used to be naive enough to think it didn't exist, and it was all about the development of great technology (and it has been) to do one thing, go as f’ing as fast as possible. The problem, or the reality with that statement is that there are so many hands in the purse grabbing money that the politics are impossible to avoid. We are giving team principles drivers, etc. a hard time. They are just puppets at this point when they are out of the car. Do this say this, act this way, fight for this, wear this certain way, etc. They are all controlled by sponsors , corporations, and MONEY plain and simple.

I’m with you on someone not being allowed to join a FIA, Liberty, or F1 and they just came from a team that same year. There needs to be a cooling off period but at the same time this is done in corporations all the time, which is not something I want to see in sport. I’m not saying it’s right, it just another tactical move, if that’s what it truly is. It may also be someone bettering themselves with a better job, we can’t fault anyone for doing that and gardening leave does not always work well with the finances of someone that in senior management or designer at top team. Considering the cash on the table, there are major games being played by all. F1 Teams are nearing billion-dollar valuations, its all about the cashflow now.

All that being said there are some games being played that equate to one thing and that’s money, and I personally subjectively ( I have zero proof of anything, just understanding large corporations and people) believe its Liberty Media. If you go back and listen to some of the interviews with their group of clowns all they care about is turning F1 into a global spectacle that rakes in billions upon billions. Some of the grid walk interviews I have heard over the hears left me speechless as they were as about disingenuous as you can get. The FIA is not innocent either, F1 pays the majority of their bills and fat salaries. This reminds me of NASCAR in the late 90s and early 2000’s, and it nearly bankrupt NAASCAR. Yes, I admit that I actually watched NASCAR when it was about building your own car, going fast as possible and drivers being drivers. Of course, the reality is no sponsors to racing, but there is a fine line for this to work for both sides and greedy people always ruin a good game.

I really hate that we are all talking about F1 sanctioning bodies politics and not fast cars, fast drivers, and cool technology. It’s that’s not anyone's fault here but its what F1 is giving us. I was much happier talking about who should have lifted for Copse 😊, but I’m not starting that once again LOL

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Yes, the politics of F1 are becoming a serious nuisance my friend. I deal with exec level corporate politics all day and hate to see it in sport. Especially in F1, that was my haven away from the corporate games and posturing. At least I used to be naive enough to think it didn't exist, and it was all about the development of great technology (and it has been) to do one thing, go as f’ing as fast as possible. The problem, or the reality with that statement is that there are so many hands in the purse grabbing money that the politics are impossible to avoid. We are giving team principles drivers, etc. a hard time. They are just puppets at this point when they are out of the car. Do this say this, act this way, fight for this, wear this certain way, etc. They are all controlled by sponsors , corporations, and MONEY plain and simple.

I’m with you on someone not being allowed to join a FIA, Liberty, or F1 and they just came from a team that same year. There needs to be a cooling off period but at the same time this is done in corporations all the time, which is not something I want to see in sport. I’m not saying it’s right, it just another tactical move, if that’s what it truly is. It may also be someone bettering themselves with a better job, we can’t fault anyone for doing that and gardening leave does not always work well with the finances of someone that in senior management or designer at top team. Considering the cash on the table, there are major games being played by all. F1 Teams are nearing billion-dollar valuations, its all about the cashflow now.

All that being said there are some games being played that equate to one thing and that’s money, and I personally subjectively ( I have zero proof of anything, just understanding large corporations and people) believe its Liberty Media. If you go back and listen to some of the interviews with their group of clowns all they care about is turning F1 into a global spectacle that rakes in billions upon billions. Some of the grid walk interviews I have heard over the hears left me speechless as they were as about disingenuous as you can get. The FIA is not innocent either, F1 pays the majority of their bills and fat salaries. This reminds me of NASCAR in the late 90s and early 2000’s, and it nearly bankrupt NAASCAR. Yes, I admit that I actually watched NASCAR when it was about building your own car, going fast as possible and drivers being drivers. Of course, the reality is no sponsors to racing, but there is a fine line for this to work for both sides and greedy people always ruin a good game.

I really hate that we are all talking about F1 sanctioning bodies politics and not fast cars, fast drivers, and cool technology. It’s that’s not anyone's fault here but its what F1 is giving us. I was much happier talking about who should have lifted for Copse ��, but I’m not starting that once again LOL

Yeah mate . I agree completely . Just like you do ,I really hate politics in sports as well.
But how Wolff managed it , to use the bouncing Mercedes back marker and turn his situation into an avantage was/is pure corruption !

The victims in this situation are teams like Ferrari and Red Bull , as you know the FIA inspections will start in the France GP..
Ferrari and Red Bull worked really hard during the winter stop to build a fast drivable car , It's there where Mercedes completely failed ..
It's useless to say , it costed hundreds of millions for Ferrari and Red Bull to build a great competitive car .

Wolff just bought the anti-bouncing solution because Mercedes wasn't able to fix it , by using people , misusing relationships and money .
IMHO .And so far that I can read ,to me that sounds like corruption !

But it seems this wasn't enough for Wolff ,now he puts the FIA under pressure to screw the hard work and great inventions from the other competitive teams ..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Saturday , the "sprint-race" will be really interesting !

[NYG]

So the rule I'm reading about the plank is very specific at where the deflection is to be measured. If the plank has additional flex beyond these points then it's still within the guidelines/requirements. As biased as I may be, I agree with Horner on this - rules are binary; there's no such thing as intent. If you explicitly state X mm deflection at one end and Y mm deflection at the next connection point then that's that.

[NYG]

https://twitter.com/ErikvHaren/statu...7mVOcEhtg&s=19

[Erik van Haren] Max Verstappen reacts in his own way to Lewis Hamilton's sneer after the race at Silverstone. "I think it's great that, when you are 37 years old, at some point you understand how to reach the apex. So he does learn."

"You can clearly see in the footage what was different. I think Charles gave him less space than I did last year, so that says it all. In the end, he was also the one who got a penalty last year, so there's no need to talk about that anymore either."

Lmaoooooooooooooooooo

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

So the rule I'm reading about the plank is very specific at where the deflection is to be measured. If the plank has additional flex beyond these points then it's still within the guidelines/requirements. As biased as I may be, I agree with Horner on this - rules are binary; there's no such thing as intent. If you explicitly state X mm deflection at one end and Y mm deflection at the next connection point then that's that.

The FIA reglementation is a 2 millimetres max. deflection of the floor .
Wolff said : He knows that the floors from some others teams It's more than 6 millimetres .

Horner said : We aren't worried , our car is within the FIA regulations.

[NYG]

[Killed by Death]

Charlie definitely isn't the weak link at Ferrari.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Charlie definitely isn't the weak link at Ferrari.

Chuck LeClerc

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Charlie definitely isn't the weak link at Ferrari.

Well, my friends ..Looks like he's there

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NYG

https://twitter.com/ErikvHaren/statu...7mVOcEhtg&s=19



Lmaoooooooooooooooooo

[///M Power-Belgium]

[///M Power-Belgium]

*****

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

More than the SEVEN (excludes 2 team photographers and Carlitos cousin) Ferrari team members on the pit wall finish line celebrating Carlitos first win.

Bin8 mistake compounded. A mule is faster than a racehorse with bound legs.

Wie de bal kaatst kan hem terug verwachten

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Is this real? If so, funny.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well, my friends ..Looks like he's there

vs. his teammate

[NYG]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

vs. his teammate

Russel woke up that morning and said "I'm going to be extra British today."

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

More than the SEVEN (excludes 2 team photographers and Carlitos cousin) Ferrari team members on the pit wall finish line celebrating Carlitos first win.

Bin8 mistake compounded. A mule is faster than a racehorse with bound legs.

Wie de bal kaatst kan hem terug verwachten

Yeah mate OC . But you know why they call Sainz the : "EL MATADOR" !

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Is this real? If so, funny.

Positive . As you can see .The dinner was last Tuesday evening in Monaco...

Mate .It wasn't cheap !

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Positive . As you can see .The dinner was last Tuesday evening in Monaco...

Mate .It wasn't cheap !

They will be OK. Ferrari didn't cuck Charlie on purpose. They are just STUPID

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

They will be OK. Ferrari didn't cuck Charlie on purpose. They are just STUPID

Hopefully ...But Charlie's crucial driver points are lost .

On the other hand : Ferrari was actually lucky that MAX had his floor damaged , otherwise MAX would have won the race .

[Killed by Death]

https://www.grandprix247.com/2022/07...et-to-an-apex/