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      03-15-2023, 08:00 AM   #23
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God help the second and third owners of these vehicles when these things start to go bad. These cars are turning into cell phones which become obsolete after five or six years.
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God help the second and third owners of these vehicles when these things start to go bad. These cars are turning into cell phones should become obsolete after five or six years.
Yes, that is exactly what is happening.
But such is the nature of trchnology innovation.
A chair was a chair for thousands of years made of many things, but you owned one until it broke or you found one you liked better.

And then someone came along and said: let me put a pressure sensor in the seat and back and measure how people sit on it. And boom, a wooden chair that was just fine for 40 years until it broke, becomes disposable after a few months because every 6 months someone comes up with a ew way to interpret the sensor data and stuff more sensors onto it and link it to your watch, poke you in the back to sit up straight etc etc. And everyone wants to have the 2023 edition. So millions of chairs go to waste every year.

But such is progress. None if us.car enthusiasts want to drive Model T because it was so great at physical driver involvement.
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some of these comments were so predictable
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God help the second and third owners of these vehicles when these things start to go bad. These cars are turning into cell phones should become obsolete after five or six years.
It’s just a projector, relax. Not alien technology.
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God help the second and third owners of these vehicles when these things start to go bad. These cars are turning into cell phones should become obsolete after five or six years.
Exactly what the OEM's want.
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      03-15-2023, 08:25 AM   #28
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Soon, you'll be able to have your shot of heroin, sit in the back seat, and have your BMW drive you home while you watch days of our lives on the windscreen not knowing which planet you're on
Days of our Lives? If I'm shooting up in the back seat I'm watching Teletubbies
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Days of our Lives? If I'm shooting up in the back seat I'm watching Teletubbies
My bad, I forgot those Big Hug moments
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got to see it in person. I will say that once you have heads up display its hard to get in a car for me without it. Maybe this seems like a lot going on but for me ill prob want it after getting use to it I/m sure. but lets see it in action in person
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Yes, that is exactly what is happening.
But such is the nature of trchnology innovation.
A chair was a chair for thousands of years made of many things, but you owned one until it broke or you found one you liked better.

And then someone came along and said: let me put a pressure sensor in the seat and back and measure how people sit on it. And boom, a wooden chair that was just fine for 40 years until it broke, becomes disposable after a few months because every 6 months someone comes up with a ew way to interpret the sensor data and stuff more sensors onto it and link it to your watch, poke you in the back to sit up straight etc etc. And everyone wants to have the 2023 edition. So millions of chairs go to waste every year.

But such is progress. None if us.car enthusiasts want to drive Model T because it was so great at physical driver involvement.
I’ve been having this conversation a lot lately…. Last week, i was discussing with my wife this exact concept. Nobody buys a M3 anymore because it’s not good enough… now everyone buys the M3 Comp (hello marketing). Just using a BMW example for reference…. She was asking if I would move to a M3 after my X4 M40i…. And I said “why?… I can never use it to its potential without being on the track… Something like a M40i is the perfect DD.” The entire model of western culture is now built off of “must have latest and greatest” and everything is disposable. Consumerism at its fullest potential. And I don’t know how or even IF it’ll change…

I’m not taking myself out of the equation… I still have my moments.. but I’m trying quite a bit harder these days to teach my kids to recognize and not live by it.

My Macan GTS had just the perfect blend of need Vs additional tech for enjoyable driving. But now that I’ve had a taste of some better tech, I fully admit I don’t think I could go backwards… at least not in a DD.
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Seriously though, have none of you heard or the Great Reset courtesy of WEF? A brave new world where you'll own nothing but have everything, until of course when you misbehave upon which time you'll have nothing.

Welcome to the age of Subscribers & Influencers
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If it was up to me, I would bring back simple M dials and put all the tech in a huge HUD (projection, not a screen) and clean up the design. The screens really cheapen modern cars.
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Was in a taxi Prius that had one of these...I'm not a fan but I guess we'll see. Grilles, Prius Hud and other trends definitely not my cup of tea.
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      03-15-2023, 10:02 AM   #35
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Well, that also means that we have been paying a nice sum for 2 decades to get this "essential safety feature" that keeps our eyes on the road!

This Herr sounded a little cocky announcing something that should come at no extra cost with every car at this point in time, especially since there are cars that are capable of driving fully autonomously w/o having to keep your hands on the wheel.
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The PR picture already shows problem with the new HUD.

Traditional HUD has a bit more "depth" (in other words, it is set up to look a little further than the distance of our eye to the windshield) thus our eye's depth of field is in line with the road.

However, having a our eyes have to focus on the screen tacked on the bottom of windshield and thus losing focus (depth of field wise) of the road, it has less benefit than traditional HUD... Just look at the PR photo. Screen is in focus and the road is blurred.
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It’s does looks cleaner than idrive8
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Just add augmented reality, remove the steering wheel, remove the brake/gas pedals, replace the ICE with EV, add AI and you got yourself complete loss of any joy of driving and loss of our freedom of movement… indeed, a totalitarian tip toeing towards an Orwellian nightmare… oh, and that German accent makes it even more frightening… might as well have Klaus Schwab promote BMW
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So now you need to replace your dash/heads up display whenever you get a rock chip in your window lol
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We all sound like old fogeys.

I like a good, well-designed HUD. Maybe this won't start off this way, but if it evolves into a more informative HUD, alleviating the need for the driver to look down for almost anything, I'd like that.

And I may not use it all the time, but I could see it being useful in certain situations (e.g. following challenging directions, or on the track, etc.)
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I wonder how long it’ll take them to figure out scenarios in which they’ll be like :
Hold on. Why are we even doing that ? Let’s make everyone use a tablet of their choice and let’s display info on it. I see so much cost cutting, money making that way. Imagine the amount of happy, decision making shareholders. Come on Bmw ! You can do it!
Joking aside, seems like Bmw will not be our next car…
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This is awesome. I can consume more information without taking my eyes off the road. Will make for a better driving experience. Can’t wait for the M version. Shits gonna sell well!
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I think it's interesting but ..thats going to end once you get a rock chip and they are like it's $5500 for a new windshield.
Fixed that price for you
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