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      03-03-2017, 02:15 AM   #1
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Buying a car from another brands dealership

Guys, quick question. I'm looking at a car (not naming the brand but it's not a kia) that is being sold at a kia dealership her in Socal. Is there any disadvantages when buying a trade in from another manufacturers dealership or is there anything I can use to maybe get a better deal? I just don't know.

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      03-03-2017, 03:15 AM   #2
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Say what? A BMW is also just a car like others too and nothing special at all. So give it a try and ride a new one.
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Not really, pretty much just negotiate the same as if it was on a dealer lot. Someone decided to trade "x" car in for whatever the Kia dealer had. Not really any disadvantage, just run a Carfax and it'd give you the same info as if it was on an OEM dealer lot.
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I purchased my 335i with 55K last May from a Lincoln Dealership for $14.9K which IMHO was underpriced with the load of crap it has which I still have no idea about haha. Negotiate, get a PPI and be happy.
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I've bought every vehicle from a different brands dealer. Never had any issues. My Z4 was bought at Ford.
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The only thing I can think of is if you have any issues with the car after you buy it they will tell you to take it to the original manufacturer dealer
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Bought 4k miles bmw m3 2016 with exec package for 63k in toyota with 50k bmw maintenance and 100k toyota maintenance for 7 years
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That's some great info. Thank you guys very much!
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I purchased my 335i with 55K last May from a Lincoln Dealership for $14.9K which IMHO was underpriced with the load of crap it has which I still have no idea about haha. Negotiate, get a PPI and be happy.
That is really good! I paid over $30k for a 335i with 46k miles before at CarMax. I know they are more on the pricy side, but it was the one I wanted.
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Bought 4k miles bmw m3 2016 with exec package for 63k in toyota with 50k bmw maintenance and 100k toyota maintenance for 7 years
So you could get a warranty from the other manufacturer as well? Wow, I didn't know that.
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That is really good! I paid over $30k for a 335i with 46k miles before at CarMax. I know they are more on the pricy side, but it was the one I wanted.
Did you purchase the warranty through them? CarMax cars are overpriced, however, their warranty is great. My wife and I purchased a CTS Coupe last May as well from CarMax for $23K but with only 39K miles and the warranty has already paid for itself due to some coolant/electrical issues covered by MaxCare warranty with only a $50 deductible.
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Did you purchase the warranty through them? CarMax cars are overpriced, however, their warranty is great. My wife and I purchased a CTS Coupe last May as well from CarMax for $23K but with only 39K miles and the warranty has already paid for itself due to some coolant/electrical issues covered by MaxCare warranty with only a $50 deductible.
Well, I did. And including the warranty it was $33k. But you're right. The warranty is amazing and really no hassle at all. Would do it again.
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Did you purchase the warranty through them? CarMax cars are overpriced, however, their warranty is great. My wife and I purchased a CTS Coupe last May as well from CarMax for $23K but with only 39K miles and the warranty has already paid for itself due to some coolant/electrical issues covered by MaxCare warranty with only a $50 deductible.
I've been looking at RR Evoques and a couple came up on CarMax that appear to be what I want, but none are in the state. Is the only way to get it inspected personally is to pay the transfer fee even if you don't end up buying it (or finding someone in that state with time to look at it for you)?

That's the only thing I'm on the fence about. I'd hate to pay for a car because it's what I think I want, pay an additional transfer fee, only to test it out or sit in that particular one and find things that'd make it a dealbreaker.
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I've been looking at RR Evoques and a couple came up on CarMax that appear to be what I want, but none are in the state. Is the only way to get it inspected personally is to pay the transfer fee even if you don't end up buying it (or finding someone in that state with time to look at it for you)?

That's the only thing I'm on the fence about. I'd hate to pay for a car because it's what I think I want, pay an additional transfer fee, only to test it out or sit in that particular one and find things that'd make it a dealbreaker.
That's the thing, the transfer fee isn't refundable so if you pay for the fee, drive it/PPI and aren't happy, no soup for you! The same day I purchased my 335, I went to a CarMax about 35 miles away and test drove a 08 335i and it felt slower compared to my previous F30 328i. That told me:

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I wouldn't have been happy paying a transfer fee of at least $999 to have a car shipped cross-country only to find out it has issues.
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If by dealership you mean an actual dealership and not Uncle Bob's Used Car lot - then you are fine...

We actually drove to SD to pick up a loaded 2016 e63s that someone barely used from a Land Rover dealership because we got the price down to 68k, lol... Sometimes it's worth it...
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That's the thing, the transfer fee isn't refundable so if you pay for the fee, drive it/PPI and aren't happy, no soup for you! The same day I purchased my 335, I went to a CarMax about 35 miles away and test drove a 08 335i and it felt slower compared to my previous F30 328i. That told me:

needed walnut blasting
tune up (plugs/coils/fuel filter at least)

I wouldn't have been happy paying a transfer fee of at least $999 to have a car shipped cross-country only to find out it has issues.
That's what I'm afraid of, it's a $599/$699 transfer fee. I mean I could test drive any one and get an idea, but it's not THAT exact one, so who knows of any inherent issues that pictures don't show.
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I have had 2 cars transferred with carmax local in FL so free transfer and neither was as expected so I would be very hesitant to pay any transfer fees.

I will say my gf bought an XTS from them and she recently traded back to carmax for something else. They gave her a very good price for it, I think its because she bought it there, but it was much more than any other dealer and when they eventually listed it for sale it was listed for the same amount they gave her.

So while in general carmax cars are more expensive it's not all bad.

As for buying a car at a different brand dealer, no issues, I do it all the time. Usually buy none BMWs at BMW dealer lol.
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bought my M3 from a chevy dealership... Just get a PPI from a good mechanic and obtain as much service history as you can.
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When dealerships perform maintenance on a car they are prepping for the lot, they can use their own service department. In my case, I purchased my M3 from an Audi dealership and they had replaced the wiper blades with VW/Audi blades of the wrong length and changed the oil with the wrong oil viscosity. My guess is that they are just using what is available to them. When I pointed this out to them, they reimbursed me for the cost of new OEM blades and also re-performed the oil change. I only had the maintenance invoice to serve as proof they had re-performed the oil change, but confirmed 5,000 miles later with an oil analysis that the viscosity was correct for 10W60.

Just watch out for those kind of things.
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If by dealership you mean an actual dealership and not Uncle Bob's Used Car lot - then you are fine...

We actually drove to SD to pick up a loaded 2016 e63s that someone barely used from a Land Rover dealership because we got the price down to 68k, lol... Sometimes it's worth it...
Yes that's exactly what I mean. I am looking at a Kia Dealership. They got something I want Thanks a lot! And good job on that E63 deal!

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bought my M3 from a chevy dealership... Just get a PPI from a good mechanic and obtain as much service history as you can.
Okay thanks! They did do a PPI and it came out good. So I don't know. It's probably fine. The car has around 22k miles on it.

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When dealerships perform maintenance on a car they are prepping for the lot, they can use their own service department. In my case, I purchased my M3 from an Audi dealership and they had replaced the wiper blades with VW/Audi blades of the wrong length and changed the oil with the wrong oil viscosity. My guess is that they are just using what is available to them. When I pointed this out to them, they reimbursed me for the cost of new OEM blades and also re-performed the oil change. I only had the maintenance invoice to serve as proof they had re-performed the oil change, but confirmed 5,000 miles later with an oil analysis that the viscosity was correct for 10W60.

Just watch out for those kind of things.
Okay great. Thanks for that info! Much appreciate it!



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So you could get a warranty from the other manufacturer as well? Wow, I didn't know that.
are we talking about warranty or maintenance or both? anyway interesting you can get bmw coverage from a non-bmw dealer, is that common?
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are we talking about warranty or maintenance or both? anyway interesting you can get bmw coverage from a non-bmw dealer, is that common?
I meant if that Kia dealer could throw in an extra warranty for the car I am looking at (which again, is not a Kia). I doubt they can and I doubt I wanna get my car serviced there.
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