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      11-15-2019, 11:33 AM   #177
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530 horsepower, AWD and 0-60 in 4 seconds? Should be in the low 3s like X3M (which weighs more)
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That is a lot of money over the gasoline version.
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      11-15-2019, 12:05 PM   #179
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This is really interesting.
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      11-15-2019, 12:33 PM   #180
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530 horsepower, AWD and 0-60 in 4 seconds? Should be in the low 3s like X3M (which weighs more)
would be disappointed if they handicap for M3 purpose...
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      11-15-2019, 01:52 PM   #181
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530 horsepower, AWD and 0-60 in 4 seconds? Should be in the low 3s like X3M (which weighs more)
Officially BMW lists 0-60 at 4.1 or 4.0 for the X3M and X3MC respectively... Plus I'm not so sure the X3M would weigh more than this thing.
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BMW Dealers: hey Munich, there's no 10-thousand dollar engines and transmissions in these things for us to replace.
How are we going to make any money?

BMW AG: Don't worry, we beat it with an ugly stick so no one will buy it.
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      11-15-2019, 04:05 PM   #183
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BMW Dealers: hey Munich, there's no 10-thousand dollar engines and transmissions in these things for us to replace.
How are we going to make any money?

BMW AG: Don't worry, we beat it with an ugly stick so no one will buy it.
Yeah pretty much!
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      11-15-2019, 04:26 PM   #184
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Other than the Model S, when are we going to get some actually good looking EV's?
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      11-15-2019, 10:49 PM   #185
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Other than the Model S, when are we going to get some actually good looking EV's?
Yeah the E-Tron Gt
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      11-15-2019, 11:35 PM   #186
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Other than the Model S, when are we going to get some actually good looking EV's?
Ever hear of the Taycan.....
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      11-16-2019, 01:00 AM   #187
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Other than the Model S, when are we going to get some actually good looking EV's?
Ever hear of the Taycan.....
Mission E looked great. The production Taycan looks like a Panamera which isn't near as appealing. Not to mention the price tag doubled based on the target.
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      11-16-2019, 01:36 AM   #188
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BMW Dealers: hey Munich, there's no 10-thousand dollar engines and transmissions in these things for us to replace.
How are we going to make any money?

BMW AG: Don't worry, we beat it with an ugly stick so no one will buy it.
Honestly, I like that look. Don’t get why people call it ugly.
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Mission E looked great. The production Taycan looks like a Panamera which isn't near as appealing. Not to mention the price tag doubled based on the target.
We must be looking at different cars, the Taycan is 90-95% true to concept Mission E and not like a Panamera. And the lower priced offerings have come out now and it is competitive priced vs a Tesla, though the car being a Porsche commands a justifiable price premium.
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Other than the Model S, when are we going to get some actually good looking EV's?
Ever hear of the Taycan.....
Not gonna lie, I honestly forgot when I was typing
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Other than the Model S, when are we going to get some actually good looking EV's?
Yeah the E-Tron Gt
Still a concept, gotta wait and see.
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BMW Dealers: hey Munich, there's no 10-thousand dollar engines and transmissions in these things for us to replace.
How are we going to make any money?

BMW AG: Don't worry, we beat it with an ugly stick so no one will buy it.
Don't worry , we have $25,000 power units that will fail a lot sooner than a engine or transmission! .. and when it goes kaput... they will probably want a new vehicle anyway !
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I really find the EVs appealing, but until the infrastructure is expanded and the ability to charge gets 2x faster I think I'll stick with gas.
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I really find the EVs appealing, but until the infrastructure is expanded and the ability to charge gets 2x faster I think I'll stick with gas.
Honestly that's the reason I find the Tesla's to be better EV's despite all the controversies/downsides. The Supercharger networker is a huge advantage. Its almost like Apple and Android, but when Android wasn't as good/advanced. Not to mention because its all through one company, they have the advantage of integrating all of their services into the car/account. No need to go to a separate website to map a trip or have to go there only to find no stalls available. Outside of Tesla the infrastructure NEEDS to improve!
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I like this, I think it will be a winner for BMW
BMW needs to get cracking.

They're arriving extremely late to this segment.
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      11-16-2019, 07:22 PM   #196
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BMW Dealers: hey Munich, there's no 10-thousand dollar engines and transmissions in these things for us to replace.
How are we going to make any money?

BMW AG: Don't worry, we beat it with an ugly stick so no one will buy it.
Honestly, I like that look. Don’t get why people call it ugly.
Cause it looks like a fugly shoe
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BMW needs to get cracking.

They're arriving extremely late to this segment.
better later than never!
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BMW needs to get cracking.

They're arriving extremely late to this segment.
better later than never!
I have lots of faith in BMW.

However BMW will pay dearly for being so slow in the EV game.
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