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03-22-2023, 02:17 PM | #1695 |
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Because you are a member of this society and you have a responsibility as a member. If you want to only pay for your own stuff, you need to buy your own island and pave your own roads, set up your own health care, build your EMS services, utilities, etc. There are lots of other social responsibilities. I just used that example to show that the people who are all about "I only wanna pay for my own stuff" are more than happy to spread that around when it directly benefits them, such as with health care, insurance, etc. In other words, you are ok with subsidizing stuff. No, society can't operate al la carte. But one day, we'll finally get those poor people to pay their fair share, right?
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03-22-2023, 02:18 PM | #1696 | |
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I've pointed this out before, many here have a skewed impression of how others live. I don't make that much but just my income income is $20k more than then national household income. That doesn't include my fiance's income. And many of you make a significant sum more than that. Many of you guys have multiple times of money in cars as I have in my house. |
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03-22-2023, 02:40 PM | #1698 | |
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So I don't understand your reply and why my post was quoted. As I said, pretty much anyone can buy a new car or a newer car with a warranty due to all the different creative financing options out there. Whether it's financially prudent for one to buy a product that takes an immediate depreciation hit is another. Or trading off the financial hit to gain a better sense of security against mechanical breakdown. That's up to the person as we're all adults and we're all free to do whatever. I myself didn't buy a "nice" car till much later in my career/life. I've always drove econoboxes even though I could afford a car many times more than what I've been purchasing. I also end to buy new but I hold on to my vehicles for a long time so any depreciation discussion is moot. |
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03-22-2023, 02:46 PM | #1699 | |
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03-22-2023, 04:08 PM | #1700 |
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This, I'm ok with paying taxes to cover the cost of healthcare, public safety, infrastructure, public transportation and education. But why should I subsidize someone else's personal transportation.
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03-23-2023, 08:09 AM | #1701 |
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Can't mention infrastructure since they don't pay road taxes (yet). In spite of generally being larger and heavier.
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03-23-2023, 08:16 AM | #1702 |
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The ex P M here that told us he's stopping fuel car sales in 2030 instead of 2040 is himself being investigated for lying to his parliamentary house party followers then.
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03-23-2023, 02:43 PM | #1703 |
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Ford will split out the EV business officially Q1 this quarter, named Ford Model E. Today they gave everyone a glimpse into their EV financials since 2021.
Ford expects to lose $3 billion on their EV division in 2023. They lost $2.1 billion in 2022 and $900 million in 2021. Goal is to be in green by 2026. https://www.thedetroitbureau.com/202...ness-for-2023/ |
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03-24-2023, 01:45 PM | #1704 |
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But you already do, with the subsidizing of the oil industry. How comfortable would you be with $6/gal gas or more?
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03-24-2023, 02:29 PM | #1706 | |
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Subsidizing the cars on top of that is like an added insult. Subsidizing a product that consumes highly subsidized energy. |
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03-25-2023, 05:13 PM | #1707 | |
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I'm Ok with indigent people not paying, but 50% are not indigent. All that federal money comes from somewhere, and it seems it's not all of us. |
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03-26-2023, 03:29 AM | #1708 | |
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I did a quick search in my state and it doesn't seem like a program as you described exists. The US does not have many programs that are comparable to those in the UK or Europe. That is a thread unto itself...! |
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03-26-2023, 10:22 AM | #1709 | |
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03-26-2023, 12:11 PM | #1710 |
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With reference to the war on drivers of older fuel cars from the Mayor of London attributable partly from EV's in the capitol, hard working people who depend on their older cars to make a living being already taxed to the hilt who can't afford new EV's are crying enough and forming protests.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca..._home#comments |
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03-27-2023, 11:24 AM | #1711 | |
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People don't need an expensive EV subsidized. I'm fine with my tax dollars paying for essential services, roads, schools, libraries, health insurance (especially this one because "preventative maintenance" care shown to be far cheaper than waiting for an issue to develop and then treating it which puts an even larger burden on the system as a whole, etc. I think prisons should actually be reformatory and punitive. We know this is the case when you look at recidivism rates. |
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03-27-2023, 11:25 PM | #1712 |
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To the original question,
Yes! But so far none meet expectations |
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03-28-2023, 10:08 AM | #1713 | |
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But the literal definition of a subsidy is: "a sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive." |
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03-28-2023, 11:00 AM | #1716 |
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