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07-31-2019, 07:26 PM | #2201 |
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Wow, the least you can say is that this topic is polarising amongst haters and others. I can't change my position, the T3 dual drive was at least for me a milestone experience in the positive sense.
And yes, most probably the G30 has better build and finish, but that's not the point. The G30 is old school architecture, past and died, over and done. BMW missed the party on this one trying to mask it with features like a lcd fob key, or gesture control... pointless. T3 is not pointless, it's highly relevant and will remain a milestone in car history. G30 will not, I don't see how it would. ![]() |
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07-31-2019, 07:33 PM | #2202 |
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Before you rant... of course a G30 is a magnificent car on its own, better than his also landmark predecessors, but it's not an innovator that disrupts the industry.
Nevertheless, I admire the G30 for what it is and I still hope to own one the coming few years. ![]() |
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07-31-2019, 07:47 PM | #2203 |
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You've missed the point again: in an EV, this kind of problem and therefore expense simply did not, does not, and will never exist. And that's yet another deal breaker for anyone starting with an EV and looking at ICE.
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07-31-2019, 09:14 PM | #2204 | ||
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For example, young drivers aren't currently being indoctrinated directly into EVs. I realize some new drivers might be driving a Tesla or other EV model, but the majority are driving cars powered by internal combustion engines. We all have to remember that the trends you might see in your back yard aren't necessarily representative of what's happening in other regions. This is to say nothing of global trends. Consider also that there are hurdles that currently slow the EV car's ascent to mainstream dominance. Much of the US is still deriving power from plants that run on fossil fuels. I've seen some calculations that estimate a typical EV to leave a carbon footprint somewhere between the average ICE and the most fuel efficient ICE and hybrid powered cars. There are some highly populated metro regions in need of some major overhauls to infrastructure before being able to offer real advantage to EV technology. I also wonder how the current grid would respond if everyone purchased one or more EVs. At present, whenever there's a heatwave, the uptick in air conditioner operation overwhelms capacity and causes major brown outs in NY and other regions. What will happen when everyone begins charging automobile batteries everyday? This might mean that power plants will need to become cleaner, more efficient, and more numerous (or each will need to operate at a higher capacity). This seems like a lofty goal (not to say it can't be done, but it's not a trivial matter). I don't know the answer to these questions, or how the math works out. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable like yourself does and can lend insight into these questions regarding the capacity to support a wide spread switch to EVs. Another issue that is somewhat slowing the rate of EV acceptance, is the fact that not everyone has access to an adequate charging station. Regardless of how technological advances accelerate battery charging, it will still require some time that's longer than filling up a gas tank. What does this mean for someone who doesn't have access at home or work to a capable, or convenient charging outlet (those living in EV-unfriendly apartments, job sites, regions etc)? Will they be willing to hangout for an hour at a charging station waiting to recharge? Maybe this will create opportunities for theaters, restaurants, cafes, and other places where people spend time? Regardless, this still means a lot of work needs to be done on various levels before EVs are practical for everyone to own. Until these changes begin to take place at a serious pace, I think EV ownership might grow to a certain point and then begin to stall, limited by the bottlenecks I mentioned above and, or others that I'm not aware of. I realize that musk himself is doing a lot to try and implement some of these changes but he's still only one man, regardless of his wealth, intellect and influence. We still need major government support, and a serious influx of revenue (read taxation) to make the new world a reality. Does this mean we should drag our heels? Of course not. As everyone knows, fossil fuels can't last forever. Eventually there will need to be a transition to a new system of energy production and consumption or life will become exceedingly harsh on multiple different levels. After all, world's current carrying capacity is based upon large reserves of readily available, easily consumed fossil fuel. Any new system has big shoes to fill. Maybe EVs will someday be part of that new paradigm, but I don't see it happening quickly enough, and on a scale sufficient to sustain the growth of any one current corporation, even one as progressive and exciting as tesla. I hope I'm wrong though, because there's a lot to like about them. |
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07-31-2019, 10:23 PM | #2205 |
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Indeed, and this very fact (simplicity and therefore likely reliability) was a significant factor in my purchase decision.
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08-01-2019, 12:21 AM | #2206 |
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Fuller you sound like myself in December 2018.
Then I researched and researched the pros and cons, then I test drove, then all was clear:. Musk is GOD and I am donating 10% to Tesla every Sunday. Joking aside, follow both pro and anti EV communities, the future is clear and future is here. The powertrain, the handling, the charging network, and the fun are all there. It's different for sure. Sometimes you can have wine and still drink beer. As I intend to burn fossil fuel along side BEV. |
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08-01-2019, 12:14 PM | #2208 |
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The future is ride sharing and mass transit, complimented with EV for urban environments. As cars continue to get more and more expensive, along with shorter auto-life expectancies, increasing living expenses, fewer young people will be able to afford a car at all. Rural America will long be dominated by ICE.
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Car is getting cheaper (adjust for quality and inflation), urbaner don't buy car because parking and other things (and we don't use it 90% of the time), car itself is nothing compare to what I pay on rent/parking/child day care/nanny...
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08-02-2019, 10:39 AM | #2210 |
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08-02-2019, 12:41 PM | #2211 |
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08-02-2019, 01:05 PM | #2212 | |
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Tesla Autopilot steered car under semitruck at 68 mph, lawsuit claims - South Florida Sun-Sentinel
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All right guys calm down please!
Let's stick to the topic at hand: cars! Thank you and happy Friday all!
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"Banner’s family sued Tesla, trucking company First Fleet and semitruck driver Richard Keith Wood. The family — Banner’s wife, Kim, and three kids — seek more than $15,000 in damages for the death of their husband and father." $15,000 for damages and his death. How refreshing to find a lawyer that is not a gold digger. ![]() |
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