Another plane crash (yeah, ANOTHER Airbus)

chazzz · 06-29-2009, 11:02 PM

Yemeni jetliner (Airbus A-310) crashed into Indian Ocean. 150 aboard.

Don't fly any AirBus. Fly Boeing.

amgthis · 06-29-2009, 11:07 PM

Not this sh*t again!

Hopefully, no one was injured this time

Seminole · 06-29-2009, 11:15 PM

OP, at least post a link to the story...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529499,00.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by amgthis

Not this sh*t again!

Hopefully, no one was injured this time

I highly doubt it. Usually when a plane meets the water bad things happen. The US Airways flight being an exception to that.

742 · 06-29-2009, 11:18 PM

I fly a Boeing for a living. I think a great deal of Boeing up to and including the 777.

Yet I don't think twice about riding on an Airbus. Debates about engineering emphasis are valid and interesting, but have no bearing on the risks of an individual flight. The statistics support this view.

Bash Airbus? There is always that ugly 737 rudder issue. We learn by understanding, not by staking ground.

But what really matters is the victims. My God rest their souls.

E90SLAM · 06-30-2009, 12:03 AM

Attached picture for reference....(maybe not the exact aircraft crashed)...

but people starting to say "another airbus"...and the media will amplify ALL Airbus incidents no matter how minor they are (even when the lavatory is clogged) and made an impression that airbus is not safe....please dun mix both accidents together....

each accident is unique and involves various factors....we hope we can find the cause soon and make flying safer....almost every accidents in the past contributes more or less to our day to day flying safer....especially in technology, procedures, CRM, etc etc....

E90SLAM · 06-30-2009, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chazzz

Don't fly any AirBus. Fly Boeing.

How come I never heard the opposite when a Boeing plane went down?

all i will hear the next few weeks will be media on the "is airbus safe?" bandwagon bashing thousands airbus flying around the world now...

TurboFan · 06-30-2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seminole

OP, at least post a link to the story...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529499,00.html

I highly doubt it. Usually when a plane meets the water bad things happen. The US Airways flight being an exception to that.

Airplanes make terrible boats.

SES_D · 06-30-2009, 12:52 AM

yeah, I just read the article...very sad.

Blake · 06-30-2009, 01:04 AM

airbus ftl (anyone that says they're the same is a fucking liar)

blue2fire · 06-30-2009, 01:20 AM

Most of it is French, and we all know about the reliability of a French car.

Blake · 06-30-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blue2fire

Most of it is French, and we all know about the reliability of a French car.

french anything

shahsk30 · 06-30-2009, 01:42 AM

wow...come fly the friendly skies.

Comet · 06-30-2009, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shahsk30

wow...come fly the friendly skies.

and sail the bottom of the sea

ok.. that was mean...

my condolensces to all those who lost family...

it must really suck.. I'd sure hate to go that way

FStop7 · 06-30-2009, 02:39 AM

Boewned

akh23456 · 06-30-2009, 08:07 AM

at least a young kid survived

nvez · 06-30-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by akh23456

at least a young kid survived

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ref=rss_latest

yeah -- still prettay sad tho, he probably will grow up all his life without "real" parents..

E90SLAM · 06-30-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue2fire

Most of it is French, and we all know about the reliability of a French car.

so german cars isn't any better....you should know EADS (parent company of Airbus Industrie) consists of couple europe countries, Germany, France, Great Britian, Spain, Italy.....

E90SLAM · 06-30-2009, 09:31 AM

Happened during approach to Moroni (FMCH) about 5-10 miles final....quoting from airliners.net...the weather for the airport at the time of crash:

Quote:

FMCH 292200Z 18022G33KT 9999 FEW020 24/17 Q1018 NOSIG=
FMCH 292300Z 21025G35KT 9999 FEW020 25/16 Q1017 TEMPO 18015G30KT=
FMCH 300000Z 21025G35KT 9999 FEW020 25/17 Q1016 TEMPO 19014KT=
FMCH 300100Z 16010KT 9999 FEW020 25/13 Q1016 NOSIG=
FMCH 300200Z 18015KT 9999 FEW020 24/15 Q1016 NOSIG=
FMCH 300300Z 24007KT 9999 FEW020 23/14 Q1017 TEMPO
20017KT=

Strong wind with gust....25 knots with 35 knots gust....not good....
some suspecting the A310 was going g/a and crashed?

happened twice times with China Airlines A300 in Japan and Taiwan, where the jetliner crashed when the pilot executed go around inappropriately.....
and A300/A310 share the same aviaonics and systems.....

satellite map of the airport
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=-11.53638...onal%20Airport

E90SLAM · 06-30-2009, 09:41 AM

I wouldn't be surprised (but also sad) that this aircraft was brought down due to maintenance defects....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8125664.stm

Quote:

"The A310 in question was inspected in 2007 by the DGAC [French transport authorities] and they noticed a certain number of faults. Since then the plane had not returned to France," Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau was quoted as telling French TV.

Robin_NL · 06-30-2009, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chazzz

Yemeni jetliner (Airbus A-310) crashed into Indian Ocean. 150 aboard.

Don't fly any AirBus. Fly Boeing.

This happened in february at Schiphol airport Amsterdam:

E90SLAM · 06-30-2009, 09:55 AM

Here's the Airbus A310 (O7-ADJ).....

MJC///M3 · 06-30-2009, 09:57 AM

the A310 was one of airbus' first jets correct? along with the A300.

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