BMW E60 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com  
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read  

Go Back   BMW E60 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board > The Sports Lounge

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-24-2024, 12:04 PM   #639
Torgus
Slow.
Torgus's Avatar
United_States
3782
Rep
7,151
Posts

Drives: Single Turbo N54 on Meth!
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2007 BMW E92  [10.00]
2007 BMW E90  [0.00]
2006 BMW E91  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark_Kent View Post
And this is exactly why these takes are so bad. Tom Brady won, and did so consistently and in many cases convincingly. He's the best football player of all time, and it's not even close. The people saying he's not the greatest of all time are haters or they don't know shit about football. It's about winning football games, period. It's not about who can throw the farthest, or who can spin it with the most velocity, who is the fastest, or who puts on the best theater pre-snap. Greatness is inextricably tied to winning. And to be more specific, winning championships.

And let's be clear: People hate Tom Brady because he's a winner. People don't hate Dan Marino. No one hates Philip Rivers. People aren't going out of their way to slander Boomer Esiason. They hate Tom because he won so much. And he likely ripped the heart out of your favorite team many times over.
This. If TB was not our QB I would have hated him.

Same reason I give Peyton Manning shit. For winning.
Appreciate 1
Clark_Kent2211.00
      01-24-2024, 02:12 PM   #640
bagekko
Major
bagekko's Avatar
United_States
811
Rep
1,074
Posts

Drives: Lots of BMWs
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: RI/MA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 M4 Vert  [0.00]
2006 Z4M Roadster  [0.00]
1995 540i  [0.00]
2008 BMW M5  [0.00]
2019 i3 Rex  [0.00]
2021 X7 40i MSport  [0.00]
I have watched more TB games unwillingly than most. Stats don't mean squat. Very rarely did TB's play impress. Majority of his passes were 5yds to Welker, Edelman, etc. Always had top notch TEs. Always had incredible offensive lines with perhaps the best protection, he would just sit there with so much time and the WRs made him look good. Horrible out of the pocket. Ran like my grandma. Belichick is the majority of the reason TB is considered great. How could the Pats TB teams be so great with practically no running game every year... the system. Throw stats, win, or rings or whatever, none of that can dispute the above.

As far as skill & talent for GOAT QB, TB isn't even close to top 5.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark_Kent View Post
And this is exactly why these takes are so bad. Tom Brady won, and did so consistently and in many cases convincingly. He's the best football player of all time, and it's not even close. The people saying he's not the greatest of all time are haters or they don't know shit about football. It's about winning football games, period. It's not about who can throw the farthest, or who can spin it with the most velocity, who is the fastest, or who puts on the best theater pre-snap. Greatness is inextricably tied to winning. And to be more specific, winning championships.

And let's be clear: People hate Tom Brady because he's a winner. People don't hate Dan Marino. No one hates Philip Rivers. People aren't going out of their way to slander Boomer Esiason. They hate Tom because he won so much. And he likely ripped the heart out of your favorite team many times over.
__________________
2008 M5 6spd, 1995 540i 6spd
2018 M4 Vert Comp, 2019 i3 120ah REX
2021 X7 40i MSport, 2006 Z4M 6spd
Appreciate 0
      01-24-2024, 02:31 PM   #641
Torgus
Slow.
Torgus's Avatar
United_States
3782
Rep
7,151
Posts

Drives: Single Turbo N54 on Meth!
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2007 BMW E92  [10.00]
2007 BMW E90  [0.00]
2006 BMW E91  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by bagekko View Post
Very rarely did TB's play impress
You are delusional.

TB has more game winning drives than any other QB. Game winning drives are super impressive and fun to watch. literal edge of your seat action that you talk about at the office watercooler the next day.

Did this not impress you:


Every SB win for TB was, for the most part, close.

When TB had a HOF WR AKA Randy Moss they set records and had some of the most fun offensive football to watch for a few seasons. TB NEVER had true HOF WR talent unlike say Peyton who had two HOF WRs most of his career.
Appreciate 0
      01-24-2024, 02:36 PM   #642
Clark_Kent
Lieutenant Colonel
Clark_Kent's Avatar
2211
Rep
1,891
Posts

Drives: Retired
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torgus View Post
You are delusional.

TB has more game winning drives than any other QB. Game winning drives are super impressive and fun to watch. literal edge of your seat action that you talk about at the office watercooler the next day.

Did this not impress you:


Every SB win for TB was, for the most part, close.

When TB had a HOF WR AKA Randy Moss they set records and had some of the most fun offensive football to watch for a few seasons. TB NEVER had true HOF WR talent unlike say Peyton who had two HOF WRs most of his career.
Yeah, just stop, not worth it. Like I said, those who debate are haters or they don't know shit about football. His favorite team no doubt plays in the AFC East.
Appreciate 1
Torgus3781.50
      01-24-2024, 02:45 PM   #643
tranquility
sportscars only
tranquility's Avatar
Canada
3219
Rep
3,191
Posts

Drives: 2011 Z4 sDrive 35i
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Montréal

iTrader: (0)

TB is the greatest, but Atlanta CHOKED that and opened the door for the Pats to come back (and yes yes, TB/etc did amazingly to do that, but the door was opened by the stupid playcalling of the Falcons). That was Football 101, you don't shotgun and fall back to lose yards, you at least stay put and kick the easy 3, game over, no chance. Something was srsly not right that SB for whatever reason.
__________________
The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation...It's bullsh*t. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal...Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy?
Appreciate 2
Clark_Kent2211.00
Torgus3781.50
      01-24-2024, 02:57 PM   #644
Clark_Kent
Lieutenant Colonel
Clark_Kent's Avatar
2211
Rep
1,891
Posts

Drives: Retired
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tranquility View Post
TB is the greatest, but Atlanta CHOKED that and opened the door for the Pats to come back (and yes yes, TB/etc did amazingly to do that, but the door was opened by the stupid playcalling of the Falcons). That was Football 101, you don't shotgun and fall back to lose yards, you at least stay put and kick the easy 3, game over, no chance. Something was srsly not right that SB for whatever reason.
Agree. That's Kyle Shanahan. That was the first red flag for me. He's exhibited more choker behavior since taking the job in SF. It plays out every year. It's shocking that you can see it from the couch.
Appreciate 2
Torgus3781.50
      01-24-2024, 03:27 PM   #645
JMcLellan
Major
JMcLellan's Avatar
United_States
1993
Rep
1,137
Posts

Drives: 2024 M2
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: MN

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy View Post
I'm looking through superbowl history and I dont see this one, so I assume there was no superbowl that year.
I believe the reference is to the super bowl played in January 2018 at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. The superbowl that the Vikings should have played in at their home stadium. Instead, the Vikes expended all their energy in the Minneapolis miracle game in the divisional round, got routed by the Eagles in the NFC champ game, and have not been the same since. It was painful watching the Eagles win the superbowl in my home town but I respected it because it was their year to win being the best team.

Full transparency: this post is a symptom of my PTSD of watching my team only lose in the playoffs
__________________
2024 M2
2019 M240i- Sold
Appreciate 0
      01-24-2024, 04:00 PM   #646
TheWatchGuy
Colonel
TheWatchGuy's Avatar
3905
Rep
2,524
Posts

Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JMcLellan View Post
I believe the reference is to the super bowl played in January 2018 at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. The superbowl that the Vikings should have played in at their home stadium. Instead, the Vikes expended all their energy in the Minneapolis miracle game in the divisional round, got routed by the Eagles in the NFC champ game, and have not been the same since. It was painful watching the Eagles win the superbowl in my home town but I respected it because it was their year to win being the best team.

Full transparency: this post is a symptom of my PTSD of watching my team only lose in the playoffs
nope, doesnt ring a bell.
__________________
@drunkcowatches on ig

Am I a watch guy, or do i watch guys?
Appreciate 1
JMcLellan1993.00
      01-24-2024, 04:02 PM   #647
Josh-PA
Second Lieutenant
935
Rep
293
Posts

Drives: 991.2, n55 e88, B58 G05
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: SEPA

iTrader: (0)

one thing we can all agree on is TB12 was a shitty WR
Appreciate 0
      01-24-2024, 04:06 PM   #648
TheWatchGuy
Colonel
TheWatchGuy's Avatar
3905
Rep
2,524
Posts

Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh-PA View Post
one thing we can all agree on is TB12 was a shitty WR
now hold on here. Tom Brady has the 2nd most receiving yards for a player over 40. You dont get that kind of stat by being a shitty WR.

while we're at it, he also has the most rushing TDs for a player over 40 and the 2nd most yards. Dude went from elite, pocket passing QB to a legit triple threat QB in his 40s.
__________________
@drunkcowatches on ig

Am I a watch guy, or do i watch guys?
Appreciate 2
JMcLellan1993.00
vreihen1615043.00
      01-24-2024, 06:03 PM   #649
TXSTYLE
"Salud"
TXSTYLE's Avatar
United_States
13753
Rep
4,665
Posts

Drives: F01 & F15 / Mineral White
Join Date: May 2013
Location: The GYM! (The Burbs - N TX)

iTrader: (0)

It's official: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...g-job-chargers

Kansas Chiefs will or at least should finally have some competition.
Appreciate 1
vreihen1615043.00
      01-24-2024, 06:13 PM   #650
tranquility
sportscars only
tranquility's Avatar
Canada
3219
Rep
3,191
Posts

Drives: 2011 Z4 sDrive 35i
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Montréal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clark_Kent View Post
Agree. That's Kyle Shanahan. That was the first red flag for me. He's exhibited more choker behavior since taking the job in SF. It plays out every year. It's shocking that you can see it from the couch.
Was one example w Jimmy GQ in the SB? That was another winnable one they lost the lead in iirc. I distinctly remember they put Montana on the spot, viewers were watching alongside w him for the whole game, poor guy had to be diplomatic but I'm sure he was dying inside when the Chiefs took the lead and won.
__________________
The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation...It's bullsh*t. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal...Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy?
Appreciate 0
      01-24-2024, 07:30 PM   #651
Clark_Kent
Lieutenant Colonel
Clark_Kent's Avatar
2211
Rep
1,891
Posts

Drives: Retired
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tranquility View Post
Was one example w Jimmy GQ in the SB? That was another winnable one they lost the lead in iirc. I distinctly remember they put Montana on the spot, viewers were watching alongside w him for the whole game, poor guy had to be diplomatic but I'm sure he was dying inside when the Chiefs took the lead and won.
Yes, the SB is one of many examples. They should've never lost to the fuckin Chiefs. The clock management just before halftime was the beginning of the end of that game. It was blunder after blunder. He got outcoached by Steve Spagnuolo. The way he managed the minutes just before haltime against GB was eerily similar. These missteps have occurred too many times and I'm waiting for the mainstream media to pick up on it. They're all captivated by how much of a "genius" he is and they skip over how small he comes up in big moments. Well, Detroit is coming to town and they're hungry. This is your chance to get in your bag and not screw this up.
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2024, 06:33 AM   #652
MoeTE87
OHIO STATE
MoeTE87's Avatar
630
Rep
685
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW M340i
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Cincinnati

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSTYLE View Post
It's official: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...g-job-chargers

Kansas Chiefs will or at least should finally have some competition.
The Cheater is off to LA. Wouldn't be surprised if the NFL suspends him for the first half of the season or more.

NFL did something similar to Jim Tressel over something far less shitty (players sold rings and merch in exchange for tattoos) that wouldn't have any affect on a single game...can't say the same for Harbaugh.

Should be an interesting next 2-4 months to say the least.
__________________
Present: 2021 BMW M340i Mineral White
Past: 2018 BMW X5 Mineral White, 2018 BMW 340i Alpine White, 2016 BMW F15 X5 xDrive / Glacier Silver, 2011 BMW 335xi / Alpine White, 2008 BMW 135i Sedona Red
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2024, 01:31 PM   #653
Fillip
Private
Fillip's Avatar
116
Rep
69
Posts

Drives: 2020 M3 (F80)
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Michigan

iTrader: (0)

49ers vs Lions should be a great game this Sunday. In the other game, I am expecting Ravens to win.
Appreciate 2
vreihen1615043.00
T0RM3NT3594.50
      01-25-2024, 05:18 PM   #654
M3WC
Brigadier General
3645
Rep
3,244
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: ...location...location

iTrader: (0)

Now that Harbaugh is going to Chargers. How long before media starts the Harbaugh back to college rumors? 1 maybe, 2 seasons.
Appreciate 2
vreihen1615043.00
lakefront560.50
      01-25-2024, 05:24 PM   #655
M3WC
Brigadier General
3645
Rep
3,244
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: ...location...location

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fillip View Post
49ers vs Lions should be a great game this Sunday. In the other game, I am expecting Ravens to win.
Ravens main opponent will be the refs.

Lions number 2 ranked run defense has to show up, because their pass defense rank is one of the worst in NFL. They have to be able to stop Mcaffrey without stacking the box.
Appreciate 1
Clark_Kent2211.00
      01-25-2024, 08:23 PM   #656
Clark_Kent
Lieutenant Colonel
Clark_Kent's Avatar
2211
Rep
1,891
Posts

Drives: Retired
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3WC View Post
Ravens main opponent will be the refs.

Lions number 2 ranked run defense has to show up, because their pass defense rank is one of the worst in NFL. They have to be able to stop Mcaffrey without stacking the box.
There are several matchups in the NFC Championship game in focus. The run defense ranking for the Lions is an interesting one in that it can be misleading. I would like to know how they fare against zone run concepts because that's what SF runs. I don't think there's a team in the NFL who runs it better - maybe Miami? Another point of focus will be the Lions banged up offensive line. The starting RG is out and the C is not at 100%. They run 5-0 protection almost exclusively. Will they continue that approach? If so, doubtful that bodes well for them against SF's defensive front. You will leave too many of your guys in 1:1 situations with very good defensive linemen. And finally, there's pass defende for SF. Does SF protect Ambry Thomas? He's a liability in pass coverage. Does Charvarius Ward follow Amon St. Brown the entire game as he has with D.K. Metcalf? Would love to see a match up of good on good. Anyhow, this will be a good one.
Appreciate 0
      01-25-2024, 08:53 PM   #657
T0RM3NT
Mr. Irrelevant
T0RM3NT's Avatar
3595
Rep
582
Posts

Drives: '23 G80M3CX Dravit/Silverstone
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Denver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TXSTYLE View Post
GO DETROIT!!!!! 🦁

Signed... Dallas Cowboys Fans!
__________________
Past results aren't a guarantee of future performance.
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2024, 12:01 AM   #658
mjr24
Colonel
1641
Rep
2,401
Posts

Drives: M8 Comp GC, X7, AMG GT53
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wisconsin

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy View Post
you must not watch football much if you think people never said brady had elite arm talent or that he never audibled or switched plays at the line...

same with Drew Brees. He had elite arm talent up until the last couple years of his career.


Mmmhmm....the same Drew Brees who says he literally can't even throw with his right arm anymore because of his dislocation in 2005 with the Chargers. Yeah, you are the expert.

Never said Brady didn't audible or change plans, every quarterback ever has done that. Wait until he is a color commentator, I think that will explain a lot about what I mean. He sure as hell isn't Peyton Manning studying film.

You guys aren't able to separate success from skill apparently......they are different.
__________________
2022 M8 Comp GC, 2021 AMG GT53, 2022 X5M Competition, 2021 X7 40i, 2019 M5, 2018 M550I, 2017 Audi Q7, 2014 M6 GC, 2013 Mercedes CLS550, 2011 750LI, 2008 M6 Cabrio, 2008 Porsche Cayenne S, 2004 Mercedes SL55 AMG, 2003 Mercedes SL500, 2000 Mercedes CL500, 1993 Lexus SC400, 1989 525i, 1985 318i

Last edited by mjr24; 01-26-2024 at 12:07 AM..
Appreciate 0
      01-26-2024, 10:49 AM   #659
TheWatchGuy
Colonel
TheWatchGuy's Avatar
3905
Rep
2,524
Posts

Drives: 335xi
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: CO

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mjr24 View Post


Mmmhmm....the same Drew Brees who says he literally can't even throw with his right arm anymore because of his dislocation in 2005 with the Chargers. Yeah, you are the expert.

Never said Brady didn't audible or change plans, every quarterback ever has done that. Wait until he is a color commentator, I think that will explain a lot about what I mean. He sure as hell isn't Peyton Manning studying film.

You guys aren't able to separate success from skill apparently......they are different.
yes brees 15+ years after his dislocation cant throw, as evident by the huge drop off his final couple season. but to say he didnt have elite arm talent all those years in NO is asinine. He was one of the best deep ball QBs in the league during his prime in NO.
__________________
@drunkcowatches on ig

Am I a watch guy, or do i watch guys?
Appreciate 2
Clark_Kent2211.00
Torgus3781.50
      01-28-2024, 06:45 PM   #660
Alvin Mpower
Lieutenant
387
Rep
449
Posts

Drives: 2016 M4 ZCP
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: RI

iTrader: (0)

9ers defense, o-line and the kicker is so bad it hurts my eye. They can't tackle for shit, letting people run through, o-line can't block shit, Purdy under pressure all game, and Jake Moody costing us all the easy point. These softass mofos don't deserve to go to the superbowl.
__________________
Current car: 2016 M4 DCT/Competition Pack/Executive Pack/Lighting Pack
Previous car: 2017 440i 6MT M-sport/Track Handling/MPPSK/CTS Turbo catted downpipe/BM3 stage 2
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:23 PM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST