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      01-04-2021, 07:38 PM   #89
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so tell me how / where does the C2 Corvette get your plastic fantastic rating ? For the record chrome bumpers didn't disappear until '74
Plastic fantastic is a coined term from the auto rags for the corvette in general. I then went on to specify which years I loathe, as that is the intent of this thread. It’s ok for you to own one and me to find you a fool. Move along.
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No Brad I gotcha. Again just messing with you. I know most of us like the 12s, but man are they a LOT more $$$ to maintain. The 8's still sound good but agree not like a 12.
Just for edification, do you not like th 8s because you feel like a Ferrari should just "Be" a 12?
Haha yes pretty much, I like the V12s more.

I'm similar with the Gallardo and Huracan, I'd take a Murcielago or Aventador instead. However I do quite like the R8 V10, both generations!

I also really like the Alfieri concept but now that it has come out as the Roma I don't really like it much!
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But they're flat plane V8's
And I think the 308 and 288 engines are pretty closely related, coming from the same engine family. The first one of course misses the dual turbo.

What don't you like about flat plane V8's and what do you like when they're turbocharged?
As far as power and performance goes, both cars are hopelessly outdated nowadays anyway.
I guess I like the 288 and F40 because they are supercars, not the standard V8 family of sports cars.

I have no problem with the flatplane V8 and in fact always like the Esprit V8, GT350R, AMG GT Black Series and so on. I just like like the Ferrari V8 sports cars!
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Audi R8 for me. Not only do they not do anything for me, I’ve always found them downright ugly. Not new 4 series ugly, but too ugly for a car that’s so highly regarded.

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I don’t get the styling. From the rear it looks like a neat thing from the 60s and from the front it’s somehow from the 80s. They sell for bonkers money and I’d think they’d sell for 10% of what they actually do.

I clearly know nothing of them, but, as the thread says, doesn’t do anything for me.
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BMW grand coupes. What's with this 4-door-version-of-the-2-door-version bullshit?
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BMW grand coupes. What's with this 4-door-version-of-the-2-door-version bullshit?
Liftback > trunk
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Liftback > trunk
Except only 1/3 "Gran Coupe's" feature this. At least the 6GC has looks going for it. The 2GC on the other hand is a lost cause.
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Except only 1/3 "Gran Coupe's" feature this. At least the 6GC has looks going for it. The 2GC on the other hand is a lost cause.
Currently at my local dealer waiting on an alignment. One of those abominations was pulling out as I was pulling in and my first thought was “if I wasn’t at BMW, I’d suspect that’s a Toyota...”

Big yuck.
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Except only 1/3 "Gran Coupe's" feature this. At least the 6GC has looks going for it. The 2GC on the other hand is a lost cause.
Currently at my local dealer waiting on an alignment. One of those abominations was pulling out as I was pulling in and my first thought was “if I wasn’t at BMW, I’d suspect that’s a Toyota...”

Big yuck.
I had one as a loaner when taking my father's 530i in for service, its just awful. The CLA is also not a great car, but at least it looks like a Merc and gives the idea that you are buying into the brand. This 2GC doesn't look or feel like a bimmer, its a Gran Corolla. Honestly a Mazda3 Turbo is a much better vehicle at a fraction of the price.
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I had one as a loaner when taking my father's 530i in for service, its just awful. The CLA is also not a great car, but at least it looks like a Merc and gives the idea that you are buying into the brand. This 2GC doesn't look or feel like a bimmer, its a Gran Corolla. Honestly a Mazda3 Turbo is a much better vehicle at a fraction of the price.
Couldn’t agree more. Piqued my curiosity so I went to see what the going price was for rolling remorse... 54k. For the love of all that is holy HOW do they ask that and worse, WHO is paying it? I just have to know...
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WHO is paying it? I just have to know...
Car buyers today flock to pricey brands because lease rate is so low. Even if the Japanese makes a far better product at that price range

People want the badge
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People want the badge
Which is funny, because the badge doesn't seem to stand for anything any more
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Which is funny, because the badge doesn't seem to stand for anything any more
So true, but guess in their head a Mercedes Benz badge means baller status even if its a Russian prison spec CLA.
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Which is funny, because the badge doesn't seem to stand for anything any more
So true, but guess in their head a Mercedes Benz badge means baller status even if its a Russian prison spec CLA.
There's a reason MB sells the light up star, and why its also mainly spec'd on more CLA's than anything else...

For only $450 you can brag to all your friends that you drive one of the worst and cheapest MB's on sale! Not to mention didn't care about any of the active safety features!
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There's a reason MB sells the light up star, and why its also mainly spec'd on more CLA's than anything else...

For only $450 you can brag to all your friends that you drive one of the worst and cheapest MB's on sale! Not to mention didn't care about any of the active safety features!
Holy Crap... $450 for a lit up logo? if I had a friend that brag about it on his CLA I'd probably secretly stop being a friend.
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There's a reason MB sells the light up star, and why its also mainly spec'd on more CLA's than anything else...

For only $450 you can brag to all your friends that you drive one of the worst and cheapest MB's on sale! Not to mention didn't care about any of the active safety features!
Holy Crap... $450 for a lit up logo? if I had a friend that brag about it on his CLA I'd probably secretly stop being a friend.
And if it couldn't get worse, for an extra $50 you can light up your kidneys!
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And if it couldn't get worse, for an extra $50 you can light up your kidneys!
Say it aint so....
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And if it couldn't get worse, for an extra $50 you can light up your kidneys!
ICK....I suppose you could do the same for the G22 as well so you could highlight how ugly it is at night.
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