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      05-14-2018, 12:00 PM   #45
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Let me start my saying at my age the filter between my brain and my mouth is non existent.

Driving to work this morning, I pull into the left turn only lane to a red arrow. Behind me is one of those livery shuttle bus things. At the last minute he goes right so I figure he didn't know where he was going. He proceeds to go around me on the right, make the left, blow the red arrow light and pull into Starbucks. As luck would have it, he was still in there when I arrived.

So I say my good mornings to the employees and then say to him "Just curious, did you not see the red arrow or was that just a d*ck move? He looks at me like I have two heads and plays Mickey the Dope and says excuse me like he doesn't know what I'm talking about. If you're going to be jerk have the balls to admit it.

Rant over. Happy Monday boys and girls.
Did you just move to NYC? Nobody gives a crap here when it comes to manners and driving lol. You should be used to it if you're in the 5 boroughs
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Truth ^^^ but most people would consider that being a wimp... Just sayin..
I would disagree. It shows restraint, being the bigger person, etc. Biting ones tongue isn't being a wimp, it's having class. A person can say whatever they like about me, yet put your hands on me and I'll quickly disprove being a wimp.

That, ladies and gentlemen is how to be a gentlemen.
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Driving fast and crazy is hateful for sure. However, I personally can not stand the slower then speed limit crowd either.
Its 45 MPH and they want to go 39. Typically soccer moms on their phones trying to text....yuk
You forgot Prius drivers.
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Did you just move to NYC? Nobody gives a crap here when it comes to manners and driving lol. You should be used to it if you're in the 5 boroughs
I was born and raised in Brooklyn and I'm probably old enough to be your mother.

And to the other poster, I'm not crying about it or being sensitive. Just stating the obvious. People don't know how to interact with people anymore.
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Cry me a river

Agreed, although I'm not sure if it's more or less important than laws.
More. Societies decide, unofficially at first, on behavioral norms. Codification, via law, comes second.

The lane and highway divider lines are among the easiest and most glaring examples.

There are few things more important than Social Contracts.
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You forgot Prius drivers.
We have already covered EC's and got
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Damn both of you to hell. Hell I tell you, HELL.
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Prius drivers around here seem to come in two flavors, neither of which is under the bell curve. One flavor is what I'd expect, driving 'economically'. The other is driving as though burning up all of the savings the car provides them is their sole objective.

I think the craziest thing I see on a regular basis is drivers on the freeway, who are plainly on their way to work, risking life and limb to reach their destination a few seconds sooner. They must really love their jobs.

Oh I hold doors open for people. In crowded situations I tend to hold it open and 'hand it off' to the next person, rather than just stand there like a doorma---errr, person. I'm not accustomed to seeing women wait for men to catch up while holding a door, or to seeing women hold a door open for a man. In fact quite the opposite. Glad to hear that might be changing.
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This is somewhat akin to announcing water is wet. Any other things you need to announce, like farts stink?
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I would disagree. It shows restraint, being the bigger person, etc. Biting ones tongue isn't being a wimp, it's having class. A person can say whatever they like about me, yet put your hands on me and I'll quickly disprove being a wimp.

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I would disagree. It shows restraint, being the bigger person, etc. Biting ones tongue isn't being a wimp, it's having class. A person can say whatever they like about me, yet put your hands on me and I'll quickly disprove being a wimp.

That, ladies and gentlemen is how to be a gentlemen.
I agree with nearly all of this but I have to go with a friend of mine who went ballistic on a golf course one day. We were at a VERY nice club and a couple of duffers walked in our path about 75 meters from the tee box as though they were on a Sunday stroll. One of my best friends nuked them and I immediately began to admonish him when he turned on me and said the following: "No, you're wrong...if this isn't stopped now we will have to deal with this for another 70 years since he is teaching his son this poor etiquette. They all need to know that this is wrong." I was taken completely aback and, upon consideration, realized that he was correct.

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One of my best friends nuked them and I immediately began to admonish them when he turned on me and said the following: "No, you're wrong...if this isn't stopped now we will have to deal with this for another 70 years since he is teaching his son this poor etiquette. They all need to know that this is wrong." I was taken completely aback and, upon consideration, realized that he was correct.

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Oh..so your best friend is Kim Jung um...nuking people. Got it.
We know who are enemies-internal. Well...we knew that.
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Oh..so your best friend is Kim Jung um...nuking people. Got it.
We know who are enemies-internal. Well...we knew that.
My buddy, MJ (he's slightly older than me) was nuking people when KJU was still completely ignorant that his career choice, Megalomaniacal Dictator, was already set.
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This is somewhat akin to announcing water is wet. Any other things you need to announce, like farts stink?
Are you referring to me being an asshole a lot or disappointed?
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If you're going to be jerk have the balls to admit it.
Okay. I'm a jerk. Often, I'm the archetypal aggressive BMW/sports car driver.

I live in a tourist town with a population similar to that of Florida. Half the drivers on the road don't know where they're going, the other half are in no hurry to get there.

I drive around them, for fun. I drive in a way that doesn't inconvenience others; but I assert my right of way and tuck through gaps in traffic with margins of error that I'm comfortable with - which are almost universally much tighter than those of the people around me.

If there's a 3 second gap between two cars doing 60kph, and I'm turning left or right into the flow, I know I can easily fit into that gap with a rolling start. Most people would've said there wasn't a gap in traffic.

If there's a two lane roundabout and both go straight ahead, I'll tuck into the outside lane and overtake the line of cars mindlessly following the inside lane. I'll brake late and take the roundabout at the speed limit.

If there's a filter lane to turn left or right, and the car in front of me isn't indicating to go into that lane and I'm turning in that direction, I'll drop into that lane at the first opportunity, then speed up - often 'overtaking' five cars going straight ahead before trailbreaking into the corner and accelerating out of the apex. Any opportunity I get I'll be using the accelerator as yaw control, the aim being to step the back out ever-so-slightly on the way through the corner.

If I'm slowing down for lights, the MHD burble warns other drivers of my presence.

If I'm in the far left lane (equivalent of the right for US drivers) of a three lane road and the far right lane is clear, but there's only a 2 second gap between cars in the middle lane, I'll go from far left to far right in one nice sweeping movement with plenty of margin (2 - 3 feet) between me and the other two cars.

I'll weave between lanes to try to pick the fastest between lights. Sometimes I'm wrong and end up behind the car that was behind me in the lane I started in.

It's not because I'm in a hurry, and it's not reckless, careless or breaking the speed limit. It's because I'm enjoying the dance in the traffic on public roads.

All that said, there's one last thing I do too, religiously.... I indicate.

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Okay. I'm a jerk. Often, I'm the archetypal aggressive BMW/sports car driver.

I live in a tourist town with a population similar to that of Florida. Half the drivers on the road don't know where they're going, the other half are in no hurry to get there.

I drive around them, for fun. I drive in a way that doesn't inconvenience others; but I assert my right of way and tuck through gaps in traffic with margins of error that I'm comfortable with - which are almost universally much tighter than those of the people around me.

If there's a 3 second gap between two cars doing 60kph, and I'm turning left or right into the flow, I know I can easily fit into that gap with a rolling start. Most people would've said there wasn't a gap in traffic.

If there's a two lane roundabout and both go straight ahead, I'll tuck into the outside lane and overtake the line of cars mindlessly following the inside lane. I'll brake late and take the roundabout at the speed limit.

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If I'm slowing down for lights, the MHD burble warns other drivers of my presence.

If I'm in the far left lane (equivalent of the right for US drivers) of a three lane road and the far right lane is clear, but there's only a 2 second gap between cars in the middle lane, I'll go from far left to far right in one nice sweeping movement with plenty of margin (2 - 3 feet) between me and the other two cars.

I'll weave between lanes to try to pick the fastest between lights. Sometimes I'm wrong and end up behind the car that was behind me in the lane I started in.

It's not because I'm in a hurry, and it's not reckless, careless or breaking the speed limit. It's because I'm enjoying the dance in the traffic on public roads.

All that said, there's one last thing I do too, religiously.... I indicate.

End confession.
Driving is like a game of chess, anticipating the moves of others. I enjoy the "dance" also but probably not to the degree you do. To each his own. I will say this, if you use your blinkers or indicators as you call them, you're good in my book.
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I would disagree. It shows restraint, being the bigger person, etc. Biting ones tongue isn't being a wimp, it's having class. A person can say whatever they like about me, yet put your hands on me and I'll quickly disprove being a wimp.

That, ladies and gentlemen is how to be a gentlemen.
If everyone was like that..the world would be full of classy and hopefully not condescending people....
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I agree with nearly all of this but I have to go with a friend of mine who went ballistic on a golf course one day. We were at a VERY nice club and a couple of duffers walked in our path about 75 meters from the tee box as though they were on a Sunday stroll. One of my best friends nuked them and I immediately began to admonish him when he turned on me and said the following: "No, you're wrong...if this isn't stopped now we will have to deal with this for another 70 years since he is teaching his son this poor etiquette. They all need to know that this is wrong." I was taken completely aback and, upon consideration, realized that he was correct.

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You can let your friend know I think he's wrong. Specifically, with regards to his assertion of "We" will have to deal with this for another 70 years. I think he'll be long dead by then.
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