Ultimate house protection

E90SLAM · 01-06-2011, 04:06 PM

Claymore?

I think I've played MW2 too much...

Schm · 01-06-2011, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Claymore?

I think I've played MW2 too much...

camera spike+motion sensor?

OC Guy · 01-06-2011, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90SLAM

Claymore?

I think I've played MW2 too much...

whats your psn

add me

oclakersfan

E90SLAM · 01-06-2011, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC 335i

whats your psn

add me

oclakersfan

will do...same SN as here...

donovan · 01-06-2011, 04:52 PM

lmao, what just happened. Did you guys just becoming BFFs

OC Guy · 01-06-2011, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donovan

lmao, what just happened. Did you guys just becoming BFFs

We're already friends IRL man, just not BFFs. BFF will happen when he adds me on PSN. Thanks for your concern though.

Joonsup · 01-06-2011, 05:31 PM

mine is joonsup79

Mr Tonka · 01-06-2011, 05:32 PM

This guy has done the trick for the last 11 years.... Seriously the best defense. The house without the 100 pound Bulldog is just easier.

OC Guy · 01-06-2011, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MP0WER

This guy has done the trick for the last 11 years.... Seriously the best defense. The house without the 100 pound Bulldog is just easier.

what about azn robbers? they will just eat.

Mr Tonka · 01-06-2011, 05:35 PM

ahhaahahahha

I was like azn.... googled it and it said, did you mean asian? haha

That's great.

E90SLAM · 01-06-2011, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC 335i

what about azn robbers? they will just eat.

Home owners will find some leftovers from the burglars...and had to wash dishes afterwards...

ScaredOnce · 01-06-2011, 08:27 PM

If that ADT sign in your front yard doesn't "scare them away".... lol When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Buy a firearm and learn to use it. Then, after many many many trips to the range and taking it apart & reassembling, drawing & dry firing, reactive targets, moving targets, failure drills, etc... GET MORE TRAINING, i.e. learn to fight with a firearm. This is much different and may save your life and/or the life of someone you love. The Brady Campaign is a lie, that firearm is a million times more likely to protect you than harm a person in the household. Learn to use it. When so-called "antis" bring up that flawed Brady statistic, I like to respond: "Yes, someday I may be killed with my own firearm. But I will have to be beaten to death with it, because it will be empty." Silly hoplophobes...

Someone posted a pic of a semi shotty above, which are great - love my Rem 1100. Some studies have shown that an intermediate rifle (e.g. AR, AK, etc.) are better for home defense (mag capacity, wounding ballistics, etc). But, this depends on your living conditions and skill level. House? Neighbors? Kids behind walls? Apartment? things to think about... Also, based on training/experience level, is a semi your best bet (longarm or otherwise)? idk, you can answer that. It might be best to consider a revolver or pump shotgun. Think about a 626 or a Rem 870. Keep the action simple (pump, revolver, lever, etc). It'll be easier to teach your wife and kids to use them safely and effectively.

Handguns are great; but, they should be considered secondary always. A handgun is great for fighting your way to your longarm. But, it's a lifestyle trade off. The smaller, more concealable/"carryable" firearm in-hand is worth a lot more than the big one that you don't carry due to comfort issues. Everyone's situations are different; try them all. (and don't skimp on the leather, you didn't buy a BMW and put cheap tires on it)

Above all, safety and training... if only two things can be considered, please make them safety and training. After that, the largest caliber that you can shoot well (in simulated real-life self defense training situations, not the range) and feel comfortable keeping on you at all times. The .380acp that your wife doesn't mind shooting is more valuable than the BrenTen 10mm that you thought was "cool" and gets left in the safe.

God willing, you'll never ever have to use it. But, imo, it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Stay safe.

-=-

Mine vary, but it's almost always an XD with premium JHPs of some sort. But, I didn't transition to semis till "Tap, Rack, Bang" was well ingrained into my habits. Until then, revolvers... if it doesn't go bang, pull the trigger and try again.

check out this forum for a lot of good info: www.PAFOA.org/forum

you can find good deals on www.GunBroker.com. Remember that handguns and out of state longarms will have to be shipped to an FFL though, not your house.

MediaArtist · 01-06-2011, 08:30 PM

Rambo's right. Guns are the answer.

ScaredOnce · 01-06-2011, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Rambo's right. Guns are the answer.

You're from the People's Republic of Cali... don't worry. We'll save most of it when the time comes.

Twisted Six · 02-08-2011, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Rambo's right. Guns are the answer.

Almost...........DEAD thieves are the answer,lol.

I like the idea of having a visual access from work......if a thief breaks in and you see him creeping your digs.....you choose a previously installed set of devices to END him.Mobile force if you will.

"Officer...I'm not sure why I had that 2" thick steel plate resting above my safe like that.....what a shame he's unidentifiable".

M3ltdown · 02-08-2011, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Rambo's right. Guns are the answer.

+1

I have a 1911 that sits inches away from me in my nightstand (but I do have a dog to alert me!)

bmwmthree · 02-08-2011, 09:02 PM

What kind of POS neighborhoods do you guys live in?

Seriously though, how many of you have had to put your gun(s) to use or your security system? Just curious to know...

Augenbrauezug · 02-08-2011, 09:17 PM

A good friend of mine has 9 IR security cameras around his house. My favorite is he has replaced his peephole with another wide angle, IR camera. He has several screens around the house, one of them in the main room easily viewable, and each of them displays all 9 cameras at once. It is impossible to even approach his house without being caught on multiple cameras recording to 2 hard drives.

Kind of baffling as he lives in literally one of the safest neighborhoods in the country, as well as being at the end of a col-de-sac and his house backs up to the lake.

Better safe than sorry I suppose.

M3ltdown · 02-08-2011, 09:21 PM

I also live in a pretty safe neighborhood. But having a gun is not about location though, it's about having protection whenever the occasion arises.

ideliver · 02-08-2011, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schm

+

I'm from the South though. In reality, a nice ADT alarm should suffice, if you want to go overboard I'm sure there's a plethora of security companies out there willing to build you a custom system, although a motion detector+camera isn't too complicated, you probably could do it yourself.

motion lights outside too....plus this for the shotgun
http://www.lasermax.com/products/remington.php

ideliver · 02-08-2011, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwmthree

What kind of POS neighborhoods do you guys live in?

Seriously though, how many of you have had to put your gun(s) to use or your security system? Just curious to know...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=home+invasion+news

ES_TRADER · 02-08-2011, 09:52 PM

Caucasian mountain dog > loaded gun

01-06-2011, 04:06 PM	#23
E90SLAM Supreme Allied Commander 1963 Rep 61,781 Posts Drives: A BBS WHORE Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: . iTrader: (6) Garage List 2022 BMW X3 sDrive30i [0.00]	Claymore? I think I've played MW2 too much... __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2011, 04:52 PM	#27
donovan Brigadier General 371 Rep 4,167 Posts Drives: R8 - Ford Raptor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: National iTrader: (17)	lmao, what just happened. Did you guys just becoming BFFs __________________ Audi R8 v10 Ford Raptor m3e46freak@yahoo.comfor all euro parts!! ebay/craigslist verified/ m3post/e46fanantics/m3forum/zpost/bimmerforum
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2011, 05:31 PM	#29
Joonsup Lieutenant General 322 Rep 17,316 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E30 325i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [9.50]	mine is joonsup79
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2011, 05:32 PM	#30
Mr Tonka is probably out riding. 6058 Rep 2,292 Posts Drives: Something Italian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweatypeninsula iTrader: (0)	This guy has done the trick for the last 11 years.... Seriously the best defense. The house without the 100 pound Bulldog is just easier. __________________ "There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice. -Charles de Secondat"
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2011, 05:35 PM	#32
Mr Tonka is probably out riding. 6058 Rep 2,292 Posts Drives: Something Italian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweatypeninsula iTrader: (0)	ahhaahahahha I was like azn.... googled it and it said, did you mean asian? haha That's great. __________________ "There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice. -Charles de Secondat"
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2011, 08:27 PM	#34
ScaredOnce Very Important 20 Rep 450 Posts Drives: 335xi (e92) Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: PIT iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 335xi (e92) [9.00] 2008 Pontiac G8 GT [4.00] 2002 Pontiac Grand ... [0.00] 2001 Cadillac, Eldo ... [0.00]	If that ADT sign in your front yard doesn't "scare them away".... lol When seconds count, the police are minutes away. Buy a firearm and learn to use it. Then, after many many many trips to the range and taking it apart & reassembling, drawing & dry firing, reactive targets, moving targets, failure drills, etc... GET MORE TRAINING, i.e. learn to fight with a firearm. This is much different and may save your life and/or the life of someone you love. The Brady Campaign is a lie, that firearm is a million times more likely to protect you than harm a person in the household. Learn to use it. When so-called "antis" bring up that flawed Brady statistic, I like to respond: "Yes, someday I may be killed with my own firearm. But I will have to be beaten to death with it, because it will be empty." Silly hoplophobes... Someone posted a pic of a semi shotty above, which are great - love my Rem 1100. Some studies have shown that an intermediate rifle (e.g. AR, AK, etc.) are better for home defense (mag capacity, wounding ballistics, etc). But, this depends on your living conditions and skill level. House? Neighbors? Kids behind walls? Apartment? things to think about... Also, based on training/experience level, is a semi your best bet (longarm or otherwise)? idk, you can answer that. It might be best to consider a revolver or pump shotgun. Think about a 626 or a Rem 870. Keep the action simple (pump, revolver, lever, etc). It'll be easier to teach your wife and kids to use them safely and effectively. Handguns are great; but, they should be considered secondary always. A handgun is great for fighting your way to your longarm. But, it's a lifestyle trade off. The smaller, more concealable/"carryable" firearm in-hand is worth a lot more than the big one that you don't carry due to comfort issues. Everyone's situations are different; try them all. (and don't skimp on the leather, you didn't buy a BMW and put cheap tires on it) Above all, safety and training... if only two things can be considered, please make them safety and training. After that, the largest caliber that you can shoot well (in simulated real-life self defense training situations, not the range) and feel comfortable keeping on you at all times. The .380acp that your wife doesn't mind shooting is more valuable than the BrenTen 10mm that you thought was "cool" and gets left in the safe. God willing, you'll never ever have to use it. But, imo, it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Stay safe. -=- Mine vary, but it's almost always an XD with premium JHPs of some sort. But, I didn't transition to semis till "Tap, Rack, Bang" was well ingrained into my habits. Until then, revolvers... if it doesn't go bang, pull the trigger and try again. check out this forum for a lot of good info: www.PAFOA.org/forum you can find good deals on www.GunBroker.com. Remember that handguns and out of state longarms will have to be shipped to an FFL though, not your house. Last edited by ScaredOnce; 01-06-2011 at 08:34 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2011, 08:30 PM	#35
MediaArtist There is No Substitute 72 Rep 1,186 Posts Drives: Audi A6, 997 GT3 RS, E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Laguna Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	Rambo's right. Guns are the answer. __________________ '13 Audi A6 '07 Porsche GT3 RS '08 BMW E90 335i
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-08-2011, 09:21 PM	#41
M3ltdown Master Chief 19 Rep 641 Posts Drives: 09 e90 M3 JzB Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NOVA iTrader: (0)	I also live in a pretty safe neighborhood. But having a gun is not about location though, it's about having protection whenever the occasion arises.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-08-2011, 09:52 PM	#44
ES_TRADER Colonel 344 Rep 2,928 Posts Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: OC iTrader: (3) Garage List 2014 Ford Raptor [0.00] 2012 328i E92 [10.00] 2013 X5 [0.00] 2013 335i F30 [8.00] 1990 Toyota Previa [0.00] 1997 E36 M3 [10.00] 2011 E92 M3 [0.00] 2011 535i [0.00]	Caucasian mountain dog > loaded gun
	Appreciate 0 Quote