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      05-09-2021, 05:26 PM   #133
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I think we can put to rest any idea of Perez challenging Verstappen now. He’s way, way, way behind Max.
I never expected something else !

Probably within 6-7 races the time is right to call Kevin Magnussen...
Otherwise It's too late in this season to get a Red Bull race strategy !
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Not gonna waste time reading this long ass post. All i see is a whole lotta typing for a whole lotta losing
Yup. Just a whole lot of the same.
Too bad their hero can't deliver when it matters.

At some point the penny will drop.....maybe!
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Well, it's beer 30 here in the states. Like Flava Flav it's time for me to sign off and stop telling fools what time it is, feel me?
Just 14 but sunny here and waiting for our hot tub to heat up after filling with fresh water, wow did it need it.
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Just 14 but sunny here and waiting for our hot tub to heat up after filling with fresh water, wow did it need it.
Beer 30 here in the states means 5:30pm not temperature

It was a nice 80f here today. Damn we need to change to the metric system!!!
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Beer 30 here in the states means 5:30pm not temperature

It was a nice 80f here today. Damn we need to change to the metric system!!!
Aha I see..time to head to the bar
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Can’t believe RB didn’t pit Verstapoen right after Hamilton came in the second time. I rarely scream at the TV because I’ve finally evolved enough to know they can’t hear me, but that really pissed me off. Terrible, terrible decision by the team.

I think we can put to rest any idea of Perez challenging Verstappen now. He’s way, way, way behind Max.
Not quite going to say Checo is way behind Max, even though I bet on Max against Checo.
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Not gonna waste time reading this long ass post. All i see is a whole lotta typing for a whole lotta losing
I read it, and you didn’t miss anything. Just excuses, as usual.
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      05-09-2021, 07:58 PM   #140
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I read it, and you didn’t miss anything. Just excuses, as usual.
Thank you good sir.
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I don't see how anyone could defend Max and RB after watching this race.

HAM outclassed them today. What a beast reeling him in with a 23 second deficit.
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      05-10-2021, 04:55 AM   #142
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Ok guys,
4 races done, time to do an early assessment of the new boys!

Perez (new to Red Bull / Verstappen)
Quali 1-3
Race 0-4
Points 32-80

Ricciardo (new to Mclaren / Norris)
Q 3-1
R 1-3
P 24-41

Sainz (new to Ferrari / Leclerc)
Q 1-3
R 0-4
P 20-40

Alonso (new to Alpine / Ocon)
Q 1-3
R 0-4
P 5-10

Vettel (new to Aston Martin / Stroll)
Q 1-3
R 1-3
P 0-5

Verdict: Perez, Alonso and Vettel miss. Ricciardo and Sainz adapting to the new team quite well but still need to step up their game to become a hit.
So what do you think?
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Hamilton and Toto to start talks on next years contract before the summer break!
So that will be another year before Verstappen has any hope of winning a drivers championship.
I can almost hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from here.
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      05-10-2021, 07:39 AM   #144
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SenorFunkyPants I can hear Muttleys snickering in my head seeing that meme
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SenorFunkyPants I can hear Muttleys snickering in my head seeing that meme
I was just thinking the same thing, my friend!! LOL!!
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      05-10-2021, 07:52 AM   #146
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Checo was already seeking for excuses regarding his bad qualifying !
Checo said : My left left shoulder hurts...

And this while Checo runs with equal 16-B machinery !
The real issue is : Once you are MAX's teammate ....
mate you re finding a lot of excuses for Max.. he doesnt have a right to have a real shoulder problem?

he already out-qualified Max in his second race weekend with RB.. he has what it takes..

edit: shoulder pain is quite serious actually.. it means he is not 100% comfy in his seat or his seatbelts are not perfectly positioned.. its a shame for his mechanics.. not him mate..
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Ok guys,
4 races done, time to do an early assessment of the new boys!

Perez (new to Red Bull / Verstappen)
Quali 1-3
Race 0-4
Points 32-80

Ricciardo (new to Mclaren / Norris)
Q 3-1
R 1-3
P 24-41

Sainz (new to Ferrari / Leclerc)
Q 1-3
R 4-0
P 20-40

Alonso (new to Alpine / Ocon)
Q 1-3
R 0-4
P 5-10

Vettel (new to Aston Martin / Stroll)
Q 1-3
R 1-3
P 0-5

Verdict: Perez, Alonso and Vettel miss. Ricciardo and Sainz adapting to the new team quite well but still need to step up their game to become a hit.
So what do you think?
Hard to really say for sure. With the limited time for testing in F1, one can argue it will take more time to adapt. I dont think Perez all of a sudden lost his race craft. Alonso, the bar is higher for him because of his past success BUT, two years is a long time to be away from F1. That or he may not have it anymore. I would give both Perez and Alonso until the middle of the season. Vettel is definitely past his prime IMO as he has been underperforming for years now.
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As I have been trying to stay out of the jibber jabber and just provide my takes, here they are:

- Merc strategy won that race as well as Ham making the most of it.
- RBR seemed to have missed 2 windows to actually let Max have a shot at winning, pitting the lap after ham for mediums or pitting around lap 50 for softs when Ham was still 10 seconds behind him. Would have made for a much more interesting finish.
- Norris had a lonely race but that late pit stop for softs paid off
- Alpine was struggling at the end
- Interesting how AM cant make it work with the new regs, but Merc can.
- Leclerc was amazing again
- Good to see RIC up there finally
- I really thought George was going to find some points this week
- Bottas will certainly get a talking to, hes just being a spoiled child at the moment, he had the shot at the race and blew it then tried to hold up Ham out of spite.
- Mick seems to be making the most of things
- Mazespin is just oblivious out there when there are cars coming on him to lap him
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I don't see how anyone could defend Max and RB after watching this race.

HAM outclassed them today. What a beast reeling him in with a 23 second deficit.
Reality translation: scHAM* + BEST Car + Team = Win

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Reality translation: scHAM* + Car + Team = Win
Why? Because being better than max = scHAM?
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Why? Because being better than max = scHAM?
There, I fixed it

Reality translation: scHAM* + BEST Car + Team = Win (longer version of it's the car).
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Reality is knowing that Bono knew that Sir Lewis "would" make up the deficit.

And I paraphrase....Lewis...I am 25 seconds behind...Bono...you've done it before...that is confidence in your strat and above all, your driver.

So, why did RB not bring VER in when they saw Mercs strat? I have my theories.
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Redbull didnt properly plan for a two stop. They didn't have a second set of mediums for Max so throwing on another set of softs and pushing really hard would not have given them the chance to beat Merc.
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Redbull didnt properly plan for a two stop. They didn't have a second set of mediums for Max so throwing on another set of softs and pushing really hard would not have given them the chance to beat Merc.
^Exactly
This was another reason that Merc made the move when they did
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