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      10-29-2019, 06:02 AM   #23
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I went e36m -> e46m -> r35 gtr -> ferrari 458. Also had a FRS, f30, and F80 along with those as a dd.

If you wanna be impressed you gotta spend money or take the gamble on a used sports car. I think going from a cayman S to a GT4, R8 v10, Viper, or GT3rs would impress you. Sure it might not seem 'worth it' but thats the car market. You get diminishing returns as you climb the ladder. Is my 458 2-3x the car a GTR is? objectively nope. But it is subjectively alot more fun.
I have had similar thoughts. I suspect that if I test drove an R8 V10 manual, I would get that "I want this feeling". The r8 v10 is just too impractical to be my only car, and owning a supercar out of warranty just scares my risk adverse self.

I test drove a 991.1 GTS and while it definitely made me smile, I didn't get this "I want this" feeling, I found it a little too big and not all that different an experience from my 981S.

I know for sure a 458 would give me that feeling but it's just not attainable for me.

It may well be that "this will be better" is all I can hope for given my current budget.
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      10-29-2019, 02:11 PM   #24
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I test drove a 991.1 GTS and while it definitely made me smile, I didn't get this "I want this" feeling, I found it a little too big and not all that different an experience from my 981S.
The 991 is a fine vehicle but i dunno, it has the same interior as an SUV for god's sake and feels a bit ......... domesticated.
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To state the obvious (and already mentioned in this thread), Cayman GT4. It's hard to beat the engineering, reliability, performance and interior of the Cayman S so why not go for the ultimate form?

If you're not afraid of a few miles the used market will save you some cash
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I feel like a slacker with my vehicle ownership. I've only owned 6 vehicles, 3 of which I still have.
Tell me about it. I've been driving 32 years and have only owned 4 vehicles, 3 of which I still have.

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      10-29-2019, 04:16 PM   #28
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      10-29-2019, 04:46 PM   #29
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To state the obvious (and already mentioned in this thread), Cayman GT4. It's hard to beat the engineering, reliability, performance and interior of the Cayman S so why not go for the ultimate form?

If you're not afraid of a few miles the used market will save you some cash
I have not fully driven one, but did drive one around a parking lot and I didn't get that "I want this feeling", it's clearly a step up from the 981S but I don't think it's different enough. It;s faster, sounds better and handles better, sure. But it's got a similar sound, feel and overall experience. I feel like it's in the "this is better" category which again might be all that;s left for me in my budget.
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I feel like a slacker with my vehicle ownership. I've only owned 6 vehicles, 3 of which I still have.
I've been driving 41 years. I've owned 13 cars/trucks and 4 motorcycles. Probably about 1.25M miles total driven. I still have 3 of the Bimmers and the last scooter I bought (new) is 20 years old this year. My 13th car I just got in September.

I don't get the concept of owning cars for just a few years.
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I've been driving for ~25 years and owned probably 30 cars in that time. 5 in the past year (definitely a record for me and not entirely intended LOL).
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I think the main selling point of BMW for me has been the smaller cars with that sweet inline six cylinder engine. With the transition to four cylinder engines and less engaging steering and handling, I feel BMW is becoming more of a Toyota than an enthusiast brand. Nothing wrong with that but that is what made me really start looking at Porsche. I just really can not afford new prices, so have to buy used.
Agree with everything besides "nothing wrong with that." Everything is wrong with that.

My dad was in the same boat as you recently. He couldn't find a modern vehicle better than his E90. Nobody makes such a tactile, fun luxury sport sedan anymore. The closest would be the Alfa Giulia, but one sit inside and you know it's not even built to the standard that E90 was, a car that entered production in 2006. He found himself looking at Porsche like you. Didn't want to spend Panamera type money so had to go with a little SUV. It's amazing to drive, but he always tells me nothing can replace a sedan. He still drives his Bimmer to work half the week as he loves it so much.

Basically, for enthusiasts like us, there's becoming fewer and fewer choices. BMW used to occupy that sweet spot between sportiness and luxury but has skewed far toward the latter this decade.
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I don't see myself going through cars often as there's only a handful of vehicles I'd personally like to own. Driving dynamics always comes first for me so there's really just the M2, M3/4, Boxster/Cayman, 911, and maybe Giulia. There really aren't any other genuinely sporty cars from luxury brands anymore. When I get older and want something more comfortable my tastes may change.
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I was super super close to buying a 2009-2014 cayman s, but ended up snagging my used M2 because I wanted a backseat and the 911 C2S was out of my budget.
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      10-30-2019, 12:13 PM   #35
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Tell me about it. I've been driving 32 years and have only owned 4 vehicles, 3 of which I still have.

Damn, you have me beat! I am only at 23 years of driving. Your first vehicle must have been in the stable for quite some time.
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      10-30-2019, 12:33 PM   #37
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I've been driving 41 years. I've owned 13 cars/trucks and 4 motorcycles. Probably about 1.25M miles total driven. I still have 3 of the Bimmers and the last scooter I bought (new) is 20 years old this year. My 13th car I just got in September.

I don't get the concept of owning cars for just a few years.

I don't get that concept either, unless a particular car has some serious issues. I am hoping to get a few more enthusiast vehicles under my belt in the coming years assuming ICE vehicles and/or driving are not outlawed in my lifetime. I still need to own something with a V8!
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Damn, you have me beat! I am only at 23 years of driving. Your first vehicle must have been in the stable for quite some time.
Yes, my first car was a 1987 Toyota Corolla SR5 (AE86) - the last of the RWD Corolla!

2 regrets:
  1. It wasn't a GTS.
  2. I sold it

So, you can say that I went on a buying spree between the 2 BMWs


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I don't get that concept either, unless a particular car has some serious issues. I am hoping to get a few more enthusiast vehicles under my belt in the coming years assuming ICE vehicles and/or driving are not outlawed in my lifetime. I still need to own something with a V8!
Same here...I still need to own a V8 or V10, but it has to be a damn good one because my wife said I can get anything that I want, but it would have to replace my M Coupe, which I am currently not ready to part with

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Try a Lotus Elise/Exige. Get one with the sport pack (Elise). You’ll by one as soon as you drive it. Amazing car and anything else would be boring after having driven it.

I’ve had my Exige for almost 13 years. I always wanted a hardcore, stripped out car and it has been an awesome experience. I would never sell this car. You’ll never be able to buy a car like it again. Also after all this time the design has held up quite well. Almost hard to imagine it’s been 13 years. Total driver’s car I would not change one thing about it. Also aftermarket support is much larger than when it first came out.

To keep on topic of the Thread title. I always wanted a M3 and finally got the F80. Had to skip on the E46 and E90 because of the Lotus. I feel the F80 is so much better than those two. So fortunate to have the sports car and sports sedan I always wanted. I’m done buying cars except for a daily driver. lol

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i used to be so much interested in cars. last ten years everything is tune able and fast. everyone wants to drive suvs that have been stomped on to have dual utility vehicles and cant even change the oil. same thing with pickups; dudes buy them to put straight pipes on and blow smoke everywhere. its a strange car scene out there nowadays. i had a prius "dust" me off a stoplight today; i wasn't pushing it at all and granny shifting. he must have been flooring it; like the fuck???

anyways; i always wanted to change cars. but realized its just a car and im always going to want something else. so just try to appreciate what i got.

look at all these M models; and heritage whatevers....the branding team is laughing all the way to the bank
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i used to be so much interested in cars. last ten years everything is tune able and fast. everyone wants to drive suvs that have been stomped on to have dual utility vehicles and cant even change the oil. same thing with pickups; dudes buy them to put straight pipes on and blow smoke everywhere. its a strange car scene out there nowadays. i had a prius "dust" me off a stoplight today; i wasn't pushing it at all and granny shifting. he must have been flooring it; like the fuck???

anyways; i always wanted to change cars. but realized its just a car and im always going to want something else. so just try to appreciate what i got.

look at all these M models; and heritage whatevers....the branding team is laughing all the way to the bank
yeah I am kinda heading this way I think "make the best of what I've got".
I mean the m240i is a fun car and has a lot of attributes I like...it just doesn't excite me like cars of the past did...but perhaps I just need to accept those days are gone and move on
but to what, gardening?
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i used to be so much interested in cars. last ten years everything is tune able and fast. everyone wants to drive suvs that have been stomped on to have dual utility vehicles and cant even change the oil. same thing with pickups; dudes buy them to put straight pipes on and blow smoke everywhere. its a strange car scene out there nowadays. i had a prius "dust" me off a stoplight today; i wasn't pushing it at all and granny shifting. he must have been flooring it; like the fuck???

anyways; i always wanted to change cars. but realized its just a car and im always going to want something else. so just try to appreciate what i got.

look at all these M models; and heritage whatevers....the branding team is laughing all the way to the bank
yeah I am kinda heading this way I think "make the best of what I've got".
I mean the m240i is a fun car and has a lot of attributes I like...it just doesn't excite me like cars of the past did...but perhaps I just need to accept those days are gone and move on
but to what, gardening?
maybe you should get your favorite platform and mod it to turn you on ... interior, exterior, suspension all of it. sometimes the car you really want is the one from the past.

These days affordable, well designed and built models are gt4 and gt3.

E9x is the last of the "lighter" semi-analog cars that are a great value right now.

I was hoping bmw would make high strung na I6 in maybe 3200 lb z4 gtx but they are more interested in building luxury appliances ...
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