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      09-29-2019, 05:27 PM   #23
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What happened to Madam President Clinton???? MKSixer how is THAT poll coming along?
It's not over yet. She made the rounds this week on quite a few shows.

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Warren for President. Hillary for VP.

President Hillary Clinton sends her most sincere condolences for untimely and mysterious death of President Warren and pledges to enact her bold vision for the redistribution of wealth in the US.
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I think Warren Beatty has a better chance of being President then Lizzy does.
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Some of the implications of a Warren presidency. Like a little girl who thinks all her problems will be solved with rich daddy's money.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/eliza...143753317.html

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At Tuesday’s Democratic debate, Sen. Elizabeth Warren asserted that only corporations and the wealthiest Americans will see their tax bills rise to pay for her boldest campaign promises – universal childcare, Medicare for All, and student debt cancellation. Hard-working middle-class families will be spared, she said.

Warren is officially leading the 2020 race – she overtook Joe Biden in the latest Quinnipiac poll, though by a slim margin (30% vs. 27%) – and that’s scary to big business, which she has long characterized as having oversize influence on the overall economy.

Sectors such as financials, health care, and tech have expressed particular concern at the prospect of a Warren presidency.

“I'm really shocked at the notion that anyone thinks I'm punitive,” Warren said at Tuesday’s debate.

“Look, I don't have a beef with billionaires. My problem is you made a fortune in America, you had a great idea, you got out there and worked for it, good for you,” she said. “You built that fortune in America. I guarantee you built it in part using workers all of us helped pay to educate. You built it in part getting your goods to markets on roads and bridges all of us helped pay for. You built it at least in part protected by police and firefighters all of us help pay the salaries for. And all I'm saying is, you make it to the top, the top 0.1%, then pitch in two cents so every other kid in America has a chance to make it.”

Convincing the ultra-wealthy, big businesses and investors that paying a higher share of taxes is good for the country will take more than a well-timed soundbite from the debate stage.

A Trump victory is viewed by most investors (61%) as good for stocks, according to a recent RBC Capital Markets survey. Two-thirds of respondents expect President Trump to get re-elected in 2020, but doubts are creeping in. A dwindling share of respondents think Trump will get re-elected, while a growing number think Warren will lead the Democratic ticket.

Warren’s ascent is making many investors nervous because they viewed a Biden 2020 win as a neutral event for markets. Their views on stocks and returns for portfolios turns negative should Warren or another Democratic candidate other than Biden be the victor; 89% of investors said electing a Democrat other than Biden would be bearish or very bearish for U.S. equities, according to RBC Capital Markets.

Wall Street interest in Warren
Although investors love to talk football with their money managers, over the past few weeks, Warren is the one who has captivated clients’ attention, says Height Capital Markets senior policy analyst Benjamin Salisbury.

“There’s been an intense recent interest in Sen. Warren as her standing in the polling has risen. [Investors] playing a little bit of catch up on getting up to speed on her specific policy proposals,” says Salisbury. Given that Warren’s policies would be a significant departure from Trump’s, investors are beginning to gauge what the risks and opportunities are.

While the CEOs of America’s biggest corporations have decried the negative impact of Trump’s tariff policy on sales, hiring and capital investments, Warren has not advocated for a reprieve from the financial pain inflicted on corporate America. Rather, her plans could cut further into profit margins of corporations.

Warren’s plan to reform America’s labor laws is a sharp departure from the status quo for chief executives – for instance, they would limit the amount of stock executives can sell in their own companies, while raising wages for workers and boosting unions’ bargaining power.

Warren has long sought to weaken big business and boost regulation as a way to protect consumers and workers, and her plans as presidential candidate would arguably do the most to overhaul the way businesses operate.

Threat to financial sector
Investors view Warren as a threat to the financial sector because of her various proposals to overhaul what she views as Wall Street’s stranglehold on the U.S. economy.

“Elizabeth Warren would be a fairly significant negative for the financial services sector broadly,” says Heights Capital Markets Senior VP Edwin Groshans. “I think some captains of the finance industry will either stop support for Democrats entirely or to a large degree, and some will actively support Trump over Warren. They’ll switch parties basically.”

Warren’s “Stop Wall Street Looting Act” would overhaul the way private-equity firms do business, making it harder for them to make money when they buy a company that fails.

In a recent note, Oppenheimer senior analyst Chris Kotowski said Warren’s proposal would become known as the “Don’t Invest in America Act” if it were enacted. He wrote that making private equity funds directly responsible for all of a portfolio company’s liabilities amounts to “foreclos[ing] wide swathes of the American economy from investment, certainly by the PE sponsors directly.”

Investors also take issue with her support of the 21st Century Glass Steagall Act which would separate commercial banking from investment banking. It could impact major firms like JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, and Citigroup if they were forced to split up.

Warren’s proposed student-loan debt forgiveness program is also viewed as a threat because it would strike at lenders’ profit centers. Groshans says that assigning blame to lenders is misplaced.

Negative sentiment among investors of pharmaceutical manufacturers, health insurers, and providers has primarily been driven by Medicare-for-all proposals over the past six months, according to Height Capital Markets.

“Medicare for all is the gold standard,” Warren said in Tuesday’s debate. “It is the way we get health-care coverage for every single American, including the family whose child has been diagnosed with cancer, including the person who's just gotten an MS diagnosis. That's how we make sure that everyone gets health care.”

A Medicare-for-all-type system is seen as eliminating insurers, taking patents away from drug companies, and reducing rates for health care providers, Hammond says. Health-care stocks would be vulnerable if, for instance, a government run health-care program eliminated private insurers’ business. The sector came under pressure earlier this year when Medicare for all momentum picked up.

Rhetoric against the health care sector will likely intensify during the race. Hammond views Warren’s strategy of being more vague on health care than other issues as shrewd. “When health care is the No. 1 issue in these debates but you’re only given 30 seconds to discuss it, then any plan just gets immediately torn apart and misinterpreted,” he said. “It’s subject to one-liners and so staying away from the actual specifics on this issue, in particular, I think is politically brilliant,” he says.

Nightmare scenario for Big Tech executives
Tech executives, not surprisingly, wouldn’t giving a warm welcome to a Warren presidency. “If she became president, I think [Facebook CEO Mark] Zuckerberg should buy an apartment, probably somewhere in the Beltway, because I think he’d be spending a lot of time there,” Dan Ives, a tech analyst at Wedbush Morgan, told Yahoo Finance. It should be noted that despite Warren’s rise in popularity, many say it’s doubtful some of her big initiatives targeting big business would get enacted, given pushback from Congress; some could get watered down.

Warren has been pushing for the breakup of big tech including Amazon, Google, and Facebook. Recently leaked audio of Zuckerberg discussing what he would do if she got elected shows a clear concern. “If she gets elected president then I would bet that we will have a legal challenge,” he said.

While executives fear a Warren presidency, Ives says the biggest risk to tech stocks is China. “Biggest risk to tech stocks it’s the tariff situation with Trump. So if that was removed [by a Warren administration], you could argue that’s a positive.”
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Warrens 1986 Texas Bar card. Self-identified as Native American...lol



https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02...logizes-again/
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Warrens 1986 Texas Bar card. Self-identified as Native American...lol



https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02...logizes-again/
Thats gonna come back to bite her. But really no matter what she does or Trump does the popular election will be close. Hopefully the Electoral College will show the power of the States.
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What happened to Madam President Clinton???? MKSixer how is THAT poll coming along?
You know what's happening!!!
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Why you keep dodging the question Pocahontas?

Do tell us what your plan would look like for taxes on the middle class.
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yeh, presiden Warren, if you can't look Americans in the eyes and tell them the truth, how can you expect to become their president?
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At least presiden Warren admits that things don't fall from the trees and actually cost money. Just like alcoholism, admitting you have a problem is the first step.

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After primaries are done she will pivot to center what you all worried about
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After primaries are done she will pivot to center what you all worried about
Her past will haunt her. I don't think Trump ever pivots to anything. He's just the same old dude.
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^He's not wrong here. Of course, that belays the question - which one is the real Warren? Crazy insane communist Warren, or leftest Democrat Warren?

Shame Tulsi has no shot - of all the democrats - she is probably the closest to being a Libertarian. Shame she wants to increase gun control and issue reparations. Those are both major non-starters for me.
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After primaries are done she will pivot to center what you all worried about
^He's not wrong here. Of course, that belays the question - which one is the real Warren? Crazy insane communist Warren, or leftest Democrat Warren?

Shame Tulsi has no shot - of all the democrats - she is probably the closest to being a Libertarian. Shame she wants to increase gun control and issue reparations. Those are both major non-starters for me.
She is against endless war. Why don't ppl like her
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She is against endless war. Why don't ppl like her
I love her for that. I don't love that she wants to restrict my gun rights and disenfranchise black Americans by giving them reparations. Those are both terrible ideas.

Other than that - many of her ideas are sound, including rational discussions about an updated immigration plan, getting us out of these ridiculous wars, offering a hybrid government/private healthcare option, nationally legalizing gay marriage, and many others.
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She is against endless war. Why don't ppl like her
I love her for that. I don't love that she wants to restrict my gun rights and disenfranchise black Americans by giving them reparations. Those are both terrible ideas.

Other than that - many of her ideas are sound, including rational discussions about an updated immigration plan, getting us out of these ridiculous wars, offering a hybrid government/private healthcare option, nationally legalizing gay marriage, and many others.
Sounds like more positive then negative. A winner!
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I I don't love that she wants to restrict my gun rights and disenfranchise black Americans by giving them reparations. Those are both terrible ideas.
But as we both know this is just fodder for the masses. Neither of this things are remotely possible for now.
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Sounds like more positive then negative. A winner!
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But as we both know this is just fodder for the masses. Neither of this things are remotely possible for now.
This comment by her below, when speaking with John Stossel, of whom she has many policy disagreements really sums up why I like her. I'd probably not vote for her, but she is certainly on the right track.

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Stossel: "I'm glad we could have a civil argument about some of these areas where we disagree. Few politicians want to do that anymore."

Tulsi: "Look, I love my country. You love our country. Let's come together as Americans with appreciation for our Constitution, our freedoms, civil liberties and rights, and have this civil discourse and dialogue about how we can move forward together."

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