Pirelli, Continental, Michelin were raided by European regulators for possible cartel

[SpaceSilver.X1]

"Pirelli, Continental, Michelin and Nokian Tyres were raided by EU antitrust regulators on Tuesday as part of an investigation into a possible cartel, sending their shares down"
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...el-2024-01-30/

[Donatello.]

Michelin is a crap company so wouldn't surprise me

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Michelin is a crap company so wouldn't surprise me

I love their crap Pilot Sport 4S tires though.

[Efthreeoh]

So, I'm supposed to hate Michelin now?

[DanG]

I have Michelin tires on both my cars. No hate here.

[strohw]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

So, I'm supposed to hate Michelin now?

Just pick another name off the list and hate them instead.

[whyzee125]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Michelin is a crap company so wouldn't surprise me

What makes you say that? Not arguing, just genuinely curious. There's a few companies I truly loathe but I didn't know there was anything controversial about them.

Also that whole article. WTF?

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by whyzee125

What makes you say that? Not arguing, just genuinely curious. There's a few companies I truly loathe but I didn't know there was anything controversial about them.

Also that whole article. WTF?

Had some tires wear out ridiculously early and they, essentially, told me to F off.

[DubaiRich]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Had some tires wear out ridiculously early and they, essentially, told me to F off.

Did you have them on your Hellcat??

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Had some tires wear out ridiculously early and they, essentially, told me to F off.

I mean, I can understand because they probably get a million calls a day from kooks that don't understand their suspension is busted and eating tires. I've never encountered a bad tire from manufacturing in that way. Not saying it can't or didn't happen, but I can understand why they might not believe you.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by strohw

Just pick another name off the list and hate them instead.

Too much hate in the world already.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by chris719

I mean, I can understand because they probably get a million calls a day from kooks that don't understand their suspension is busted and eating tires. I've never encountered a bad tire from manufacturing in that way. Not saying it can't or didn't happen, but I can understand why they might not believe you.

lol Sent them proof of mileage, purchase, abnormal wear etc. My car is fine, but thanks

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

lol Sent them proof of mileage, purchase, abnormal wear etc. My car is fine, but thanks

damn he was serious

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

lol Sent them proof of mileage, purchase, abnormal wear etc. My car is fine, but thanks

I didn't say you're wrong or making it up. I just can understand why Michelin is dismissive beyond them being a huge corporation that doesn't care anyway.

[07ImolaRot]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Michelin is a crap company so wouldn't surprise me

Can't really trust anyone that owns a Miata and a Hellcat. That's like being a bipolar chick with split personalities.

[M5Rick]

I had fitted a used nearly new michelin and after 3 years had to replace it with another as cracks were forming all around both sides of sidewalls..it came off a GTR so understandable it had a hard short life there.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by chris719

I mean, I can understand because they probably get a million calls a day from kooks that don't understand their suspension is busted and eating tires. I've never encountered a bad tire from manufacturing in that way. Not saying it can't or didn't happen, but I can understand why they might not believe you.

I agree. I would think a mis-manufactured tire would show some abnormal road behavior well in advance of wearing out early. The chance all four tires were mis-manufactured and ended up on the same car is highly unlikely.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by 07ImolaRot

Can't really trust anyone that owns a Miata and a Hellcat. That's like being a bipolar chick with split personalities.

Can't trust anyone that just owns one brand either.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I agree. I would think a mis-manufactured tire would show some abnormal road behavior well in advance of wearing out early. The chance all four tires were mis-manufactured and ended up on the same car is highly unlikely.

Who said it was 4?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Who said it was 4?

Well, it was more than one:

"Had some tires wear out ridiculously early..."

So, either it was two tires, 3 tires, or 4 tires. Or it was two (or multiple) separate instances of different tires wearing out early. If that was the case and Michelin told you to F-off the first time, it must mean you went back for more pain. That would then be on you.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by DanG

I have Michelin tires on both my cars. No hate here.

Yup, Pilot Sport AS4's on all three of my BMWs. Love 'em. 4th set on the E90 and 2nd set on the Z4. The Z3 is up next for a new 2nd set soon.

[BlkGS]

Prices between all these major tire.manufacturers are similar?

Wow it's almost like they use the same materials, similar processes, have similar overhead, and base their pricing off market demand and market analysis...