Best bang for my buck to gain some HP

rslong50 · 08-29-2017, 10:12 PM

Please provide suggestions for the best bang for my buck to get me closer to 500hp. I have a 2015 M3. I would prefer to stay under warranty. Thank you!

DrtyJrze · 08-29-2017, 10:40 PM

Under warranty there's nothing you can do. Sorry.

Thescout13 · 08-29-2017, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DrtyJrze

Under warranty there's nothing you can do. Sorry.

I am with Drty. You have to pay to play.

As a secondary option you could go with Dinan. You technically do not get to keep your BMW warranty but instead it is replaced with Dinans.

BoxKing · 08-30-2017, 07:35 AM

You could go JB4 Piggy Back, this would get you the closest to your goal of 500HP, but you would still be playing on the edge when it comes to warranty concerns. "If" something were to go wrong, you could remove the JB4, and hope there is nothing left behind in the DME that would suggest you tuned the car.

You can score one used for ~$500 - so I'd say for your needs, this would be the best bang for your buck.

If you want true BANG for your BUCK.... go to Tijuana, there is a place called the Hong Kong Club, now there is a place where a $1 (Buck) goes one hell of a long way!

///M4ster Yoda · 08-30-2017, 07:48 AM

Dinan is far from best bang for the buck. Ripoff if you ask me. As scout stated you could get a Dinan "tune" but you'll pay out the ass for subpar performance compared to the other tuning possibilities.

As far as I am concerned there are 2 options

1) keep car stock and keep warranty intact. Car is fast as shit anyway.

2) go BM3 or VF Hex tune. You'll be happy with the upgrade and burble exhaust for sure. Warranty could be kaput.

There is a 3rd option but I'm not a fan. Had a JB4 on my 335is N54 and the car ran like complete shit. Went Cobb PTF flash tune on it and it became a beast.

Good luck

rblynn78 · 08-30-2017, 02:19 PM

I went with the AA Active 8 tune. Got me well over 500hp (not whp). I think they get the car to about 485whp... The car is dramatically faster and it cost me $1,000. It is a piggy back, therefore, since it is tricking the sensors and DME, there shouldn't be a record of anything if you needed to take it off. I take mine off prior to bringing my car in for service, takes about 30 mins. I am very impressed, love it and as far as I know, once removed, undetectable.

BoxKing · 08-30-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rblynn78

I went with the AA Active 8 tune. Got me well over 500hp (not whp). I think they get the car to about 485whp... The car is dramatically faster and it cost me $1,000. It is a piggy back, therefore, since it is tricking the sensors and DME, there shouldn't be a record of anything if you needed to take it off. I take mine off prior to bringing my car in for service, takes about 30 mins. I am very impressed, love it and as far as I know, once removed, undetectable.

Like the JB4, they can go in and see the logs; which would show them that performance levels had indeed been tampered with. You would be at the mercy of your SA if they caught on.

I used to think the JB4 was all the hype, but the more I read on here, it seems like I will be going BM3 or HEX. There are pros and cons to each of them, and they both have their so called "isasues" but even bolt-ons have problems off the shelf from now and then.

IMHO prior to pulling the trigger on one of the above listed performance upgrades, you need to talk yourself out of the so called WARRANTY worries. If you can't overlook this, then move on bc there are no other options out there for you.

LLNM4 · 08-30-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxKing

You could go JB4 Piggy Back, this would get you the closest to your goal of 500HP, but you would still be playing on the edge when it comes to warranty concerns. "If" something were to go wrong, you could remove the JB4, and hope there is nothing left behind in the DME that would suggest you tuned the car.

You can score one used for ~$500 - so I'd say for your needs, this would be the best bang for your buck.

If you want true BANG for your BUCK.... go to Tijuana, there is a place called the Hong Kong Club, now there is a place where a $1 (Buck) goes one hell of a long way!

This bar is the one in the movie "From Dusk till Dawn"?

aBMWfan · 08-30-2017, 02:43 PM

I had the Dinan tune installed for a while. My car was always acting up, stalling, throwing drivetrain malfunction warnings, and gas mileage was terrible.

I pulled it off, Car has been much more reliable and predictable since.

Flash tunes are much better for the car. Not worth tinkering with piggy backs at all.

I'm going to stay stock with just bolt-ons until warranty is expiring.

Then I'm going to do BM3

Leaveit2bevo · 08-30-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LLNM4

This bar is the one in the movie "From Dusk till Dawn"?

I believe that one was called titty twisters!

Pak317 · 08-30-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rslong50

...I would prefer to stay under warranty. Thank you!

Loose weight

won't get you to 500 but you will have slightly better power to weight

or just purchase Downpipes and Midpipes

John @ SSR Performance · 08-30-2017, 04:23 PM

There is alot that could be done. PM Sent

tom @ eas · 08-30-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rslong50

Please provide suggestions for the best bang for my buck to get me closer to 500hp. I have a 2015 M3. I would prefer to stay under warranty. Thank you!

Keep in mind, any aftermarket part can affect warranty - most times it will never comes to this on simple, conservative mods.

If warranty is a concern, it might be best to simply wait it out.

BoxKing · 08-30-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LLNM4

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxKing

You could go JB4 Piggy Back, this would get you the closest to your goal of 500HP, but you would still be playing on the edge when it comes to warranty concerns. "If" something were to go wrong, you could remove the JB4, and hope there is nothing left behind in the DME that would suggest you tuned the car.

You can score one used for ~$500 - so I'd say for your needs, this would be the best bang for your buck.

If you want true BANG for your BUCK.... go to Tijuana, there is a place called the Hong Kong Club, now there is a place where a $1 (Buck) goes one hell of a long way!

This bar is the one in the movie "From Dusk till Dawn"?

No for real, I've been there and it's unreal. No Vamps just tramps

9SECDD · 08-30-2017, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rslong50

Please provide suggestions for the best bang for my buck to get me closer to 500hp. I have a 2015 M3. I would prefer to stay under warranty. Thank you!

JB4 is best bang for the buck, simplest and least risky. No doubt. But not risk-free. If something goes wrong you should assume your warranty could be toast. If you are not willing to risk that, don't mod. Seriously.

pbough · 08-30-2017, 10:51 PM

BootMod3 Tune with Catless DP's and free flow filters in he stock air intakes. This setup has made my M4 a monster! Totally love it and the extra power over stock.

Sleeper · 08-31-2017, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pbough

BootMod3 Tune with Catless DP's and free flow filters in he stock air intakes. This setup has made my M4 a monster! Totally love it and the extra power over stock.

Sounds like a great setup if you have warranty concerns.

rblynn78 · 08-31-2017, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxKing

Like the JB4, they can go in and see the logs; which would show them that performance levels had indeed been tampered with. You would be at the mercy of your SA if they caught on.

I used to think the JB4 was all the hype, but the more I read on here, it seems like I will be going BM3 or HEX. There are pros and cons to each of them, and they both have their so called "isasues" but even bolt-ons have problems off the shelf from now and then.

IMHO prior to pulling the trigger on one of the above listed performance upgrades, you need to talk yourself out of the so called WARRANTY worries. If you can't overlook this, then move on bc there are no other options out there for you.

So I am a little confused on this. Hopefully some can explain this to me. My understanding is that these piggy back tunes simply trick the car sensors and tell them they aren't running X boost, they are running less, so the car increases boost. With that being said, according to the DME of the car, the vehicle is running within normal parameters. So if you removed the piggy back, how would there be any traces of anything since the DME is reading all normal. Just want to understand this more.

///M4ster Yoda · 08-31-2017, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rblynn78

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxKing

Like the JB4, they can go in and see the logs; which would show them that performance levels had indeed been tampered with. You would be at the mercy of your SA if they caught on.

I used to think the JB4 was all the hype, but the more I read on here, it seems like I will be going BM3 or HEX. There are pros and cons to each of them, and they both have their so called "isasues" but even bolt-ons have problems off the shelf from now and then.

IMHO prior to pulling the trigger on one of the above listed performance upgrades, you need to talk yourself out of the so called WARRANTY worries. If you can't overlook this, then move on bc there are no other options out there for you.

So I am a little confused on this. Hopefully some can explain this to me. My understanding is that these piggy back tunes simply trick the car sensors and tell them they aren't running X boost, they are running less, so the car increases boost. With that being said, according to the DME of the car, the vehicle is running within normal parameters. So if you removed the piggy back, how would there be any traces of anything since the DME is reading all normal. Just want to understand this more.

If BMW wants to find the "tune" they will. Why anyone would run a piggy over a flash is beyond me.

karbonM3 · 08-31-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by John @ SSR Performance

There is alot that could be done. PM Sent

PM me as well please. Very interested in options.

dmk08 · 08-31-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Sounds like a great setup if you have warranty concerns.

If you're that worried about warranty leave the car stock. Pretty simple.

Sleeper · 08-31-2017, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

If you're that worried about warranty leave the car stock. Pretty simple.

What? Thanks.

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///M4ster Yoda Banned 4602 Rep 4,265 Posts Drives: '16 F82 M4 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (1)	Dinan is far from best bang for the buck. Ripoff if you ask me. As scout stated you could get a Dinan "tune" but you'll pay out the ass for subpar performance compared to the other tuning possibilities. As far as I am concerned there are 2 options 1) keep car stock and keep warranty intact. Car is fast as shit anyway. 2) go BM3 or VF Hex tune. You'll be happy with the upgrade and burble exhaust for sure. Warranty could be kaput. There is a 3rd option but I'm not a fan. Had a JB4 on my 335is N54 and the car ran like complete shit. Went Cobb PTF flash tune on it and it became a beast. Good luck
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rblynn78 Private 35 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW X5M Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Charleston, SC iTrader: (0)	I went with the AA Active 8 tune. Got me well over 500hp (not whp). I think they get the car to about 485whp... The car is dramatically faster and it cost me $1,000. It is a piggy back, therefore, since it is tricking the sensors and DME, there shouldn't be a record of anything if you needed to take it off. I take mine off prior to bringing my car in for service, takes about 30 mins. I am very impressed, love it and as far as I know, once removed, undetectable.
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aBMWfan Banned 1194 Rep 3,670 Posts Drives: 08' M3/'15 M4/ '06 M3/ '09 M3/ Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Thousand Oaks iTrader: (11)	I had the Dinan tune installed for a while. My car was always acting up, stalling, throwing drivetrain malfunction warnings, and gas mileage was terrible. I pulled it off, Car has been much more reliable and predictable since. Flash tunes are much better for the car. Not worth tinkering with piggy backs at all. I'm going to stay stock with just bolt-ons until warranty is expiring. Then I'm going to do BM3 Last edited by aBMWfan; 08-30-2017 at 03:57 PM..
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pbough Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 241 Posts Drives: Austin Yellow M4 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	BootMod3 Tune with Catless DP's and free flow filters in he stock air intakes. This setup has made my M4 a monster! Totally love it and the extra power over stock.
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