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      04-01-2019, 09:57 AM   #67
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Omg!!
Bratbart? Zerohedge? Why not throw in some RT or Sputnik? Where's Alex Jones?

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Overall, .....CIS a questionable source based on publishing misleading information (propaganda) regarding immigration, as well as ties either directly or indirectly to the John Tanton Network, who is a known White Nationalist.
Do you have anything to dispute the data, instead of the source as usual? If one of those sources declared that the sun was the center of our solar system you would dispute the source.
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Do you have anything to dispute the data, instead of the source as usual? If one of those sources declared that the sun was the center of our solar system you would dispute the source.
So those sources are to be trusted? I also didn't watch any of kitesurfers geoearth psuedo-science videos. Should I?
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Do you have anything to dispute the data, instead of the source as usual? If one of those sources declared that the sun was the center of our solar system you would dispute the source.
The guy who was dead wrong for over a YEAR has the nerve to lecture others about their sources. Welcome to the bizzaro world. Wrong is now right. Up is down. RD is credible hahaha
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Do you have anything to dispute the data, instead of the source as usual? If one of those sources declared that the sun was the center of our solar system you would dispute the source.
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So those sources are to be trusted? I also didn't watch any of kitesurfers geoearth psuedo-science videos. Should I?
The data is the data. The main challenge is actually the underlying methods used to gather the data and then compile and deliver the results. Without knowing the first 2, the third is irrelevant. If the first two are valid, the delivery methodology is unimportant. It can be delivered on the side of a bus, a sandwich board, or on a roll of toilet paper.

Not agreeing with it because of where it's presented is a bit ridiculous. Just like agreeing with something that's obviously flawed because it's dressed up and well packaged in presentation is insane.

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The data is the data. The main challenge is actually the underlying methods used to gather the data and then compile and deliver the results. Without knowing the first 2, the third is irrelevant. If the first two are valid, the delivery methodology is unimportant. It can be delivered on the side of a bus, a sandwich board, or on a roll of toilet paper.

Not agreeing with it because of where it's presented is a bit ridiculous. Just like agreeing with something that's obviously flawed because it's dressed up and well packaged in presentation is insane.

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The "source" here is alt-right propaganda. Again, should I investigate the chem-trail videos, or knowing the source (and their history of being non-factual) I can dismiss it out of hand?
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2nd gen immigrants are the worst.

I immigrated legally. I think opening the country for more immigrants is the right thing to do. We work harder, we are smarter, eventually we will take over from the lazy descendants of Western Europeans and remake America in our own image. It'll become better, cooler, browner - and with nicer dance moves too. How exactly the immigrants cross the border is irrelevant for the end result, so until they can come legally I'll take the current arrivals at the Mexico border as the second best.
You are literally saying a lawless society is a good society.

You live in Boston far away from where people experience the adverse effects of illegal immigration. Easy to support it thousands of miles away behind a keyboard.
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The "source" here is alt-right propaganda. Again, should I investigate the chem-trail videos, or knowing the source (and their history of being non-factual) I can dismiss it out of hand?
I actually examined the chem trail videos in the past and dismissed them, thereafter. Just as I have climate change data and the methodology behind them. Read first, dismiss upon examination as appropriate. An open mind with sound methodology behind data examination is the best way to move through life. It stops one from becoming a victim of propaganda.
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I actually examined the chem trail videos in the past and dismissed them, thereafter. Just as I have climate change data and the methodology behind them. Read first, dismiss upon examination as appropriate. And open mind with sound methodology behind data examination is the best way to move through life. It stops one from becoming a victim of propaganda.
I've previously examined Zerohedge, Bratbart, and looked up CIS (?) today.

Dismissed! Fake news! Total alt-right bias.
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RD is credible
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      04-01-2019, 12:45 PM   #77
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So you started with that, and migrated to the fake news boys?
Strange.

A February 2017 CIS report said that "72 individuals from the seven countries covered in President Trump's vetting executive order have been convicted in terror cases since the 9/11 attacks," an assertion that several fact-checking agencies debunked.[88][89] Stephen Miller, a senior White House policy adviser, used the data provided by CIS to justify President Trump's 90-day travel ban, earning him "Three Pinocchois" from the Washington Post Fact-Checker (its second-worst rating).[88][90] FactCheck.Org found that most (44 of the 72) had not been convicted on terrorism charges, and that none of the 72 people were responsible for a terrorism-related death in the US, and Snopes mirrored the assessment.[88]

In March 2018, the Trump administration stated that construction on a Mexico border wall would pay for itself by keeping undocumented immigrants out of the United States, citing a CIS report.[91] The CIS report was based on data from the 2016 National Academies of Science (NAS) report.[91] However, several of the authors of the NAS report said that CIS misused the data from the report, made unjustifiable methodological decisions, and that it was likelier that keeping undocumented immigrants out would reduce government revenue.[91][92] The 18-member panel of economists, sociologists, demographers and public policy experts, and chosen by the National Academies of Science, concluded that undocumented immigrants had a net positive fiscal impact.[91]
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again, look at newer and current numbers not data based off previous years as the sources in those links did.

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Dismissed! Fake news! Total alt-right bias.
ignoring original content; how can they be fake news if they rehost articles from other credible sources?
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RD is credible hahaha
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RD is credible

"One of these things is not like the other. One of these things doesn't belong."

And the guy that continually talks about lies and misquotes, lies about a quote from another member to make himself look good. How impressive.



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RD is credible hahaha
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RD is credible

"One of these things is not like the other. One of these things doesn't belong."

And the guy that continually talks about lies and misquotes, lies about a quote from another member to make himself look good. How impressive.



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I noticed you never doubt the veracity of the Fact checks I post. What's up?
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2nd gen immigrants are the worst.

I immigrated legally. I think opening the country for more immigrants is the right thing to do. We work harder, we are smarter, eventually we will take over from the lazy descendants of Western Europeans and remake America in our own image. It'll become better, cooler, browner - and with nicer dance moves too. How exactly the immigrants cross the border is irrelevant for the end result, so until they can come legally I'll take the current arrivals at the Mexico border as the second best.
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I noticed you never doubt the veracity of the Fact checks I post. What's up?
That's another lie. Gosh, you are getting as bad as Trump. I not only responded to some of your "Fact checks", I even called out your fact check sites as being extremely left biased.
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Lovely.
Exactly.
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That's another lie. Gosh, you are getting as bad as Trump. I not only responded to some of your "Fact checks", I even called out your fact check sites as being extremely left biased.
Translation:
extremely biased means they do not report what I want to hear/read

The Always Trump supporter calling out others as liars? That's ironic.
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0 lies on my part. Open mind here. And none of my "fact check" sites are extremely biased

Where did you respond to the fact checks?
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"One of these things is not like the other. One of these things doesn't belong."

And the guy that continually talks about lies and misquotes, lies about a quote from another member to make himself look good. How impressive.
That's more like cheating isn't it? So add in cheater to the mix and what do you get? Real Cino!
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extremely biased means they do not report what I want to hear/read

The Always Trump supporter calling out others as liars? That's ironic.
Extremely:
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"this is an extremely difficult thing to do"

0 lies on my part. Open mind here. And none of my "fact check" sites are extremely biased

Where did you respond to the fact checks?
Translation:
No meaningful response and nothing of value to contribute.
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extremely biased means they do not report what I want to hear/read

The Always Trump supporter calling out others as liars? That's ironic.
Extremely:
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"this is an extremely difficult thing to do"

0 lies on my part. Open mind here. And none of my "fact check" sites are extremely biased

Where did you respond to the fact checks?
Translation:
No meaningful response and nothing of value to contribute.
I still haven't seen you refute one fact check claim.
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Finally makes sense. You're for lawlessness. Got it.
You gotta work harder on your reading comprehension.
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You are literally saying a lawless society is a good society.
I'm literally saying we should pass laws that would bring all those people into the light.
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You live in Boston far away from where people experience the adverse effects of illegal immigration. Easy to support it thousands of miles away behind a keyboard.
You have no idea, do you?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ed-immigrants/

However, you're right in one thing: we do not experience adverse effects. We accept everyone, protect them from ICE goons as much as we can, and this brings good hard working people here.
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